After living with Darcy for too many years, I loved the fact that Murray tried to better this team getting good players. ROR was a great trade when we got him and the money he is making is going to be WAY below what a second line center will make in this years FA market. (see Duchene contract July 1)

I love the E-Kane trade too. there was nothing wrong with getting those players. Did he over pay, maybe but at least he tried. The players that we traded away are not exactly lighting up the NHL by any means either...
- hehateme

You can’t tell this delta bravo anything. He is a beer league referee. Take his takes for gospel even though most are loaded with disclaimers.

Negotiate signing him 8 for 10 mil per. I would be willing to move forward with him. I’d bet on him.
- Hatboro_Swords

1 season with more then 30 goals

way more banged up then skinner

no way I move pick 7 for a rental
and he would be 37 in his 8th year if signed to an 8 year extension

If I am moving pick 7 I want
OEL, or Marner, or MacKinnon, or Point, or Seguin, etc

You can’t tell this delta bravo anything. He is a beer league referee. Take his takes for gospel even though most are loaded with disclaimers.
- Hatboro_Swords

say whaaa

He built an entertaining House of Cards, then a beer fart blew it down.
- washedup20

Raw deal...

Murray swung for the fences when his team was down 3 runs with the bases emptied.

He needed to hit a few singles and doubles first before making those types of moves

Listen to what ? we've been hearing elevator music the last 50 years.
- SABRES 89

….….

it should be no more than Nylander, hickey and the STL 2021 second rounder...pulling $9m off the books for NSH is huge so let's not overpay
- Michael Pachla

They'd probably want Fitz or Borgen instead of Hickey but I agree. Not too much.

I'd try to shoe-horn Tage instead of Nylander if I give a better pick too. Nylander has such a higher scoring ceiling that I want him to have more NHL time before giving up.

I am down with all of that because it doesn't hurt you long term either

Zucker has term left and at a semi reasonable cap hit and you're not giving Duchene $10 million and 7 years
- Stripes77

Yes. Love PK so much more than EK65 due to term.

This needs to he done.

Raw deal...

Murray swung for the fences when his team was down 3 runs with the bases emptied.

He needed to hit a few singles and doubles first before making those types of moves
- Stripes77

I don't disagree. but I would rather have a GM that is always looking for talent and has the balls to make a deal.

You can’t tell this delta bravo anything. He is a beer league referee. Take his takes for gospel even though most are loaded with disclaimers.
- Hatboro_Swords

RAW DEAL

and you're the biggest papa oscar sierra on here

Raw deal...

Murray swung for the fences when his team was down 3 runs with the bases emptied.

He needed to hit a few singles and doubles first before making those types of moves
- Stripes77

he had jack Eichel on base when he pulled off the deals for ror and Lehner...might even say reinhart too

it should be no more than Nylander, hickey and the STL 2021 second rounder...pulling $9m off the books for NSH is huge so let's not overpay
- Michael Pachla

Means we still have that 2nd 1st for Zucker.

After living with Darcy for too many years, I loved the fact that Murray tried to better this team getting good players. ROR was a great trade when we got him and the money he is making is going to be WAY below what a second line center will make in this years FA market. (see Duchene contract July 1)

I love the E-Kane trade too. there was nothing wrong with getting those players. Did he over pay, maybe but at least he tried. The players that we traded away are not exactly lighting up the NHL by any means either...
- hehateme

GMTM had no vision for a team and SUCKED at drafting for the most part. outside of reinhart and eichel what good players did he draft? hell a 7th rounder might end up being his 3rd best draft pick.. also the lehner trade and kulikov trade are baffling.

I don't disagree. but I would rather have a GM that is always looking for talent and has the balls to make a deal.
- hehateme

I want to see deals this offseason but I don't want to see deals to make deals

Say they add PK and get Duchene to sign here you're looking at $38 million in cap spent on 4 players in Eichel Skinner Duchene and PK

This team doesn't have the depth to be able to handle that kind of top heavy payroll.

This is where having all of those draft picks that Murray gave away would be helpful

RAW DEAL

and you're the biggest papa oscar sierra on here
- Stripes77

At least I didn’t compare myself to Stewart there Paul. U r the man

time to make a new capfriendly

he had jack Eichel on base when he pulled off the deals for ror and Lehner...might even say reinhart too
- Michael Pachla

At the time Eichel was on deck and Reinhart was still fighting his way through AAA

At least I didn’t compare myself to Stewart there Paul. U r the man
- Hatboro_Swords

Because anything of the sort has come out of my mouth...

Go find it...I'll wait

So what are we saying we need to part with for PK?

he had jack Eichel on base when he pulled off the deals for ror and Lehner...might even say reinhart too
- Michael Pachla

Thank you. Evidently life goes according to plan with the rest of the posters. Congrats on 5 years and thank you for providing a forum for Sabres discussion.

Means we still have that 2nd 1st for Zucker.
- Mentalorgasm5

sure...although i'm not that high on him

I want to see deals this offseason but I don't want to see deals to make deals

Say they add PK and get Duchene to sign here you're looking at $38 million in cap spent on 4 players in Eichel Skinner Duchene and PK

This team doesn't have the depth to be able to handle that kind of top heavy payroll.

This is where having all of those draft picks that Murray gave away would be helpful
- Stripes77[/quote

I hear ya. And I agree. I never said that Murray's deals were the Best deals. But I just simply can't blame him for trying to make the team better. Hind sight is 20/20

why is everyone so GD obsessed with the Cap? Franking spend the Money on Talent. I'll bet anyone on here that if we spend to the cap and win the cup not one person would biotch... edit (that last statement would be a stretch because some people just female dog to female dog)

Get talent when you can, if you can get PK, Duchene, Ehlers DO IT. who cares if we have to let a player or tow go, price you have to pay to be good.
- hehateme

(frank) the cap, get some good players in here.

sure...although i'm not that high on him
- Michael Pachla

What if it was Sobotka, Nylander and pick 31? Are you high now? haha

[quote=Stripes77]I want to see deals this offseason but I don't want to see deals to make deals

Say they add PK and get Duchene to sign here you're looking at $38 million in cap spent on 4 players in Eichel Skinner Duchene and PK

This team doesn't have the depth to be able to handle that kind of top heavy payroll.

This is where having all of those draft picks that Murray gave away would be helpful
- hehateme[/quote

I hear ya. And I agree. I never said that Murray's deals were the Best deals. But I just simply can't blame him for trying to make the team better. Hind sight is 20/20

I was all about the ROR trade and the EK trade. It got me excited but it wasn't the time to be making those types of trades. A bunch of posters here even said so, and low and behold they were right.

Adding a player like Zucker and maybe swinging for a guy like PK would be a huge offseason here.

I just don't see how spending and trading for almost $20 million on 2 players is beneficial for this Sabres this year

I was all about the ROR trade and the EK trade. It got me excited but it wasn't the time to be making those types of trades. A bunch of posters here even said so, and low and behold they were right.

Adding a player like Zucker and maybe swinging for a guy like PK would be a huge offseason here.

I just don't see how spending and trading for almost $20 million on 2 players is beneficial for this Sabres this year
- Stripes77

The thing about those trades, however, is that if Murray doesn't go out and sign the likes of Okposo and Moulson, he probably still has a job here.