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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 18 @ 11:58 AM ET
Braun traded to flyers for 2nd and 3rd
- TheSabresTaco

terrible deal for the flyers

1 year left


Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jun 18 @ 11:58 AM ET
Karlsson off the market

Trouba off the market

Live look at Risto's value following those two moves:


- jcragcrumple



2 days ago risto was worth way less then trouba?

So which is it?

The supply and demand chart is a nice touch though.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 18 @ 11:58 AM ET
No, but the 1st half of your post is spot on.
- IonSabres


Risto isn't a bum and he's not that great either. He excels in the offensive zone, his transition game is horrible and his defense in his own end is well below average. He plays too high in the lineup with too many minutes.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 18 @ 11:58 AM ET
He's not that great. Brendan Dillon is much better.
- TheSabresTaco

this
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 18 @ 12:00 PM ET
nvm
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jun 18 @ 12:00 PM ET
I hear the Sabres are in on Martin Jones and his 5 years left at 5.75 per.

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 18 @ 12:00 PM ET
2 days ago risto was worth way less then trouba?

So which is it?

The supply and demand chart is a nice touch though.

- Boss34


Trouba is a special case. His gm was handcuffed. Being willing to only go to one or two teams.. his trade value is not indicative of his actual value. I'll put internet cash on, if Risto is traded, receives more value because of his contract amount and term.
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jun 18 @ 12:01 PM ET
I was told "anyone that thinks risto is good, is stupid"

Sbroads2kanes1cup

3 straight 40 point seasons doesn't accidentally happen

- Boss34


No it doesn't. He's good at what he does. Just mentioned you have to give to get. I like Ehlers a lot, great producer, still very young. A trade for him without using Risto? Sure, sign me up. I'm saying that if it took that, I wouldn't absolutely hate it. Especially if getting Myers for a REASONABLE price. That's all. But I'm sure this will be picked apart by something like: "Risto is(n't) good, (You're) stupid). Trade Risto? Sign me up. I'm saying (if he's here next year) I would absolutely hate it."
SyrSabreFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Syracuse, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 18 @ 12:02 PM ET
I hear the Sabres are in on Martin Jones and his 5 years left at 5.75 per.
- Boss34


🛑
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 18 @ 12:02 PM ET
Carolina is still paying Alexander Semin 2.3M for 2 more years?

Lol wow.

Besides us paying Hodgson only 700K... who else are some the worst dudes still getting paid to be buried or bought out?

- JVince11


Are the Isles still paying Yashin or DiPietro?

Pretty sure the Mets have to pay Bobby Bonilla for another 75years or so 😂😂😂
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jun 18 @ 12:02 PM ET
If the player elects arbitration, the team decides one year or two

If the team elects arbitration, the player decides one year or two

However, lunaion pointed out that neither situation is applicable because it's the last year of RFA eligibility

I still think it's a miss but i've moved on

- jcragcrumple

My god buddy.

Trouba himself came out and said his wife is starting her residency so his request for a trade had to do with her being in a good location.

Dreger just reported his list of teams he’d sign long term were 1-2 teams long

He was never signing here. There’s no “miss”
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 18 @ 12:02 PM ET
2 days ago risto was worth way less then trouba?

So which is it?

The supply and demand chart is a nice touch though.

- Boss34


Both.

Risto is not as good as Trouba, but with Trouba off the market, Risto's value increases because the supply of RHD has decreased, and therefore the demand for available RHD has increased
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 18 @ 12:02 PM ET
How about just don't re-sign Myers
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 18 @ 12:03 PM ET
I hear the Sabres are in on Martin Jones and his 5 years left at 5.75 per.
- Boss34


I'd take it over Hutton as the primary that's for sure....

My Sharks fan friend was highly critical of him during the playoffs.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 18 @ 12:03 PM ET
My god buddy.

Trouba himself came out and said his wife is starting her residency so his request for a trade had to do with her being in a good location.

Dreger just reported his list of teams he’d sign long term were 1-2 teams long

He was never signing here. There’s no “miss”

- OneKaneOneCup



My God buddy, it's ok to have a difference of opinions. Moving on
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jun 18 @ 12:03 PM ET
How about just don't re-sign Myers
- TheSabresTaco

As a Myers fan club member , agreed. He isn’t worth what he’s about to get
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 18 @ 12:04 PM ET
My god buddy.

Trouba himself came out and said his wife is starting her residency so his request for a trade had to do with her being in a good location.

Dreger just reported his list of teams he’d sign long term were 1-2 teams long

He was never signing here. There’s no “miss”

- OneKaneOneCup


"Jbotts needs to be fired for not trading for Trouba"

"I never considered the information in the above post"
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 18 @ 12:04 PM ET
Risto isn't a bum and he's not that great either. He excels in the offensive zone, his transition game is horrible and his defense in his own end is well below average. He plays too high in the lineup with too many minutes.
- TheSabresTaco


Hence my original post that JVince reacted to.

As a Dman, he is definately 3rd pairing worthy (coverage and transition skills required he doesn't have)
Die By The Blade wrote about sheltering him and reducing his minutes.
The Sabres replaced him on PP1

So a 3rd pairing with limited PP time will be expected to score the same?

Wow SMH
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 18 @ 12:04 PM ET
Trouba is a special case. His gm was handcuffed. Being willing to only go to one or two teams.. his trade value is not indicative of his actual value. I'll put internet cash on, if Risto is traded, receives more value because of his contract amount and term.
- TheSabresTaco


Agreed. Trouba's extension will make his value as a player clear. If he goes the one year route, that would be entertaining, but it's the Rangers, he's signing long term.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 18 @ 12:04 PM ET
Are the Isles still paying Yashin or DiPietro?

Pretty sure the Mets have to pay Bobby Bonilla for another 75years or so 😂😂😂

- jdfitz77


No I remember a big thing on Twitter like this year or last that DiPietro got his final check.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 18 @ 12:05 PM ET
Trouba is a special case. His gm was handcuffed. Being willing to only go to one or two teams.. his trade value is not indicative of his actual value. I'll put internet cash on, if Risto is traded, receives more value because of his contract amount and term.
- TheSabresTaco


Good post
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 18 @ 12:05 PM ET
"Jbotts needs to be fired for not trading for Trouba"

"I never considered the information in the above post"

- TheSabresTaco


1.) Never said that

2.) I did consider that
mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.14.2015

Jun 18 @ 12:06 PM ET
I'd take it over Hutton as the primary that's for sure....

My Sharks fan friend was highly critical of him during the playoffs.

- JVince11


Martin Jones is basically just a younger more expensive Carter Hutton
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 18 @ 12:07 PM ET
Agreed. Trouba's extension will make his value as a player clear. If he goes the one year route, that would be entertaining, but it's the Rangers, he's signing long term.
- Lunaion


It sounds like he'll sign in the metro. I'd be hard pressed to believe all 3 teams wouldn't pay him what he wants. But if that ever happens, I bet he sets his sights on the outer teams. Buffalo, Boston, Philly, Pittsburgh, Washington. I'm sure it won't get that far.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 18 @ 12:08 PM ET
1.) Never said that

2.) I did consider that

- jcragcrumple


A general comment, not targeting your OP. Just a reaction to yesterday's meltdown on the board.
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