Hence my original post that JVince reacted to.

As a Dman, he is definately 3rd pairing worthy (coverage and transition skills required he doesn't have)
Die By The Blade wrote about sheltering him and reducing his minutes.
The Sabres replaced him on PP1

So a 3rd pairing with limited PP time will be expected to score the same?

Wow SMH
- IonSabres

Dahlin averaged almost the exact same PP TOI and they swapped Dahlin to PP1 with Olofsson and Risto to the 2nd one to try to get balance on the two units. I wouldn't say he was exactly "demoted".

Dahlin averaged almost the exact same PP TOI and they swapped Dahlin to PP1 with Olofsson and Risto to the 2nd one to try to get balance on the two units. I wouldn't say he was exactly "demoted".
- JVince11

That's exactly what happened. Dahlin took his job. As an 18 year old rookie.

Martin Jones is basically just a younger more expensive Carter Hutton
- mattmoulson

Lol maybe... but I see Martin as an actual NHL starter where Hutton is a fringe NHL starter.

I'd be shocked if they actually took Hutton back. Dell is not starter ready that's for sure. Hopefully we wouldn't give them Ullmark and have Jones/Hutton. 10M in goaltending.. yuck.

That's exactly what happened. Dahlin took his job. As an 18 year old rookie.
- TheSabresTaco

Okay then Olofsson took Skinner's job at 1LW last year next to Eichel... as a 9 game NHL rookie.

amazing.

Dahlin averaged almost the exact same PP TOI and they swapped Dahlin to PP1 with Olofsson and Risto to the 2nd one to try to get balance on the two units. I wouldn't say he was exactly "demoted".
- JVince11

If you're boss has you working on something and then moves you to something that gets less exposure, less opportunity, and generally working with less skilled people, do you consider it a demotion?

Lol maybe... but I see Martin as an actual NHL starter where Hutton is a fringe NHL starter.

I'd be shocked if they actually took Hutton back. Dell is not starter ready that's for sure. Hopefully we wouldn't give them Ullmark and have Jones/Hutton. 10M in goaltending.. yuck.
- JVince11

Martin Jones had a sub-.900 save percentage in the regular season and playoffs on a team with two Norris winners

The view that he's better than Hutton seems debatable at best

Martin Jones had a sub-.900 save percentage in the regular season and playoffs on a team with two Norris winners

The view that he's better than Hutton seems debatable at best
- jcragcrumple

Touche then.

Olives are great....

Edit: Cottage Cheese and Coconuts are franking awful...

Martin Jones had a sub-.900 save percentage in the regular season and playoffs on a team with two Norris winners

The view that he's better than Hutton seems debatable at best
- jcragcrumple

hutton is better

fix the D and our goalies are fine

hutton is better

fix the D and our goalies are fine
- homiedclown

Our D suck, Trade Dahlin, Risto, and anyone with a pulse.

Did I do that right.

Our D suck, Trade Dahlin, Risto, and anyone with a pulse.

Did I do that right.
- SDSabre

Well Dahlin did get 44% of his points from the PP so he does suck in your regard.

Jets fans seem to think/want it is Carolina's Pesce that they would trade Ehlers for.


I honestly don't know a ton about some of their kids like him. Anyone?

Our D suck, Trade Dahlin, Risto, and anyone with a pulse.

Did I do that right.
- SDSabre

I'd move mccabe, scandella and bogo
build around dahlin, risto and montour

I hear the Sabres are in on Martin Jones and his 5 years left at 5.75 per.
- Boss34

Yeah stay away from this head case of a goalie.

I would take a stab at King Henrik. Rangers have 2 very good goalies right now besides Henrik. Have the rangers hold some of his salary too.

It can’t hurt to ask!

Jets fans seem to think/want it is Carolina's Pesce that they would trade Ehlers for.


I honestly don't know a ton about some of their kids like him. Anyone?
- JVince11

good at many things

not great

Well Dahlin did get 44% of his points from the PP so he does suck in your regard.
- JVince11

Show me where I said anything about points based on PP usage. Points are points. Usage is Usage. When you tell me x player averages 40/45 points per (A good accomplishment) and I point out that y player averages 30/35 points per, with less usage, one could surmise that perhaps player y could at least compare to player x.

I'd move mccabe, scandella and bogo
build around dahlin, risto and montour
- homiedclown

And that's fair. I can get behind this. All I ever said was if it took Risto for Ehlers, I wouldn't hate it, and could see Myers if he didn't cost as much as some think (Not even going to put a number on it, just a relatively lower cost then Risto.)

Rick Dhaliwal

@DhaliwalSports
· 4m
Source : #Canucks seem to be talking with Buffalo about a defenseman, not sure if its Rasmus Ristolainen or Zach Bogosian.

Rick Dhaliwal

@DhaliwalSports
· 4m
Source : #Canucks seem to be talking with Buffalo about a defenseman, not sure if its Rasmus Ristolainen or Zach Bogosian.
- Lilroot9

BOGO, please let it be BOGO.. Then go sign Duchene.

Show me where I said anything about points based on PP usage. Points are points. Usage is Usage. When you tell me x player averages 40/45 points per (A good accomplishment) and I point out that y player averages 30/35 points per, with less usage, one could surmise that perhaps player y could at least compare to player x.
- SDSabre

You guys on here the last three years: we need defense. They are harder to get and worth way more then wingers.

You guys this month: trade Risto for scraps. He’s a 5-6 defenseman 🙄🙄

Rick Dhaliwal

@DhaliwalSports
· 4m
Source : #Canucks seem to be talking with Buffalo about a defenseman, not sure if its Rasmus Ristolainen or Zach Bogosian.
- Lilroot9

They are trying to deal Edler I just read?

Rick Dhaliwal

@DhaliwalSports
· 4m
Source : #Canucks seem to be talking with Buffalo about a defenseman, not sure if its Rasmus Ristolainen or Zach Bogosian.
- Lilroot9

Unless that's the 10th oa, we're in for a proper (frank)ing.

Vancouver and Buffalo taking about a D man

You guys on here the last three years: we need defense. They are harder to get and worth way more then wingers.

You guys this month: trade Risto for scraps. He’s a 5-6 defenseman 🙄🙄
- Fattony1187

Man tough crowd on a 22 year old winger with 2 60 point seasons under his belt already.