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Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 18 @ 4:42 PM ET
Is there a better option? Habs would keep all of their picks and prospects.
- deadpoulet

Edler would be cheaper and shorter term but not as productive IMO
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jun 18 @ 4:42 PM ET
If Gardiner signs with MTL for 7yrs at 6M/yr, good or bad?
- Symba007

bad bad bad
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 18 @ 4:44 PM ET
bad bad bad
- WaterBoy

what if his name was Jardinier?
Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

Jun 18 @ 4:45 PM ET
what if his name was Jardinier?
- Symba007

Mauvais mauvais mauvais
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jun 18 @ 4:48 PM ET
Mauvais mauvais mauvais
- Garfield512


Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 18 @ 4:49 PM ET

Andrew Zadarnowski‏ @AZadarski

Daniel Audette will not get a qualifying offer from the Montreal Canadiens, so come June 25th he will become an unrestricted free agent. He could technically stay in the organization by signing an AHL contract with the Rocket, but I don't see that being the case.

deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jun 18 @ 4:49 PM ET
Edler would be cheaper and shorter term but not as productive IMO
- Symba007


I'm not sure he can still skate. Anyway, there's a reason why he would be cheaper.
Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

Jun 18 @ 4:53 PM ET
Andrew Zadarnowski‏ @AZadarski

Daniel Audette will not get a qualifying offer from the Montreal Canadiens, so come June 25th he will become an unrestricted free agent. He could technically stay in the organization by signing an AHL contract with the Rocket, but I don't see that being the case.

- Symba007

They seem to be making room in Laval for the guys they drafted in the last few years.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 18 @ 4:54 PM ET
They seem to be making room in Laval for the guys they drafted in the last few years.
- Garfield512

Audette did not progress much, he is far from making the NHL based on the teams depth chart
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jun 18 @ 4:56 PM ET
UFA don't cost you assets and the salary cap slowly goes up every year. I don't want to unload quality prospects for something equivalent when you can potentially sign a player via UFA but the terms have to make sense.
- Symba007

I understand wanting to keep prospects and picks but it all depends on which prospects and picks and what comes back.

For Gardiner if it's the direction they go I'd rather see less term even if it means a bit higher aav. 4 or 5 years at $6.5 or $6.75?
Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

Jun 18 @ 4:58 PM ET
Audette did not progress much, he is far from making the NHL based on the teams depth chart
- Symba007

Yep ... just like McCarron, he's a career AHL player at best, can't see him getting any better at this point.

It makes more sense to assign his roster spot to a young guy coming in.
Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Jun 18 @ 4:58 PM ET

- We have Mete, Kulak and Benn (probably gone - UFA) on the left side
- That's a combined 52 points
- Gardiner had 52 points by himself 2 seasons ago
- Leddy or Ghost would cost players+picks (and overpayment due to the market)
- He has defensive lapses but that comes with offensive-minded Ds

Yes to Gardiner, give him the 7 years if that's the deal breaker
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jun 18 @ 4:59 PM ET
Neither do I. Surely he has a spot on another team.
- BashCH


He does, the Rocket
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jun 18 @ 4:59 PM ET
I understand wanting to keep prospects and picks but it all depends on which prospects and picks and what comes back.

For Gardiner if it's the direction they go I'd rather see less term even if it means a bit higher aav. 4 or 5 years at $6.5 or $6.75?

- Takemedrunkimhome


There's not much on the market right now for defensemen (UFAS). Somebody will give him the term he wants.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jun 18 @ 5:01 PM ET
- We have Mete, Kulak and Benn (probably gone - UFA) on the left side
- That's a combined 52 points
- Gardiner had 52 points by himself 2 seasons ago
- Leddy or Ghost would cost players+picks (and overpayment due to the market)
- He has defensive lapses but that comes with offensive-minded Ds

Yes to Gardiner, give him the 7 years if that's the deal breaker

- Not_Yan


Habs have lots of excess players to move, mostly forwards, along with prospects and picks... I'd rather trade for a competent D than sign Gardiner for 7 years
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jun 18 @ 5:01 PM ET
Mauvais mauvais mauvais
- Garfield512

Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

Jun 18 @ 5:02 PM ET
I understand wanting to keep prospects and picks but it all depends on which prospects and picks and what comes back.

For Gardiner if it's the direction they go I'd rather see less term even if it means a bit higher aav. 4 or 5 years at $6.5 or $6.75?

- Takemedrunkimhome

Same here ... I wouldn't go beyond 4 years with him while our rookie D's get ready for the big league.

Beyond that we would be looking at another buyout IMO, I would rather renegociate at that time if he's still effective.
Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Jun 18 @ 5:03 PM ET
Habs have lots of excess players to move, mostly forwards, along with prospects and picks... I'd rather trade for a competent D than sign Gardiner for 7 years
- obie


I doubt Shaw of Lehkonen will fetch very much, personally
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jun 18 @ 5:08 PM ET
I doubt Shaw of Lehkonen will fetch very much, personally
- Not_Yan


Right... but you start adding picks and prospects and that may change
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jun 18 @ 5:13 PM ET
Right... but you start adding picks and prospects and that may change
- obie

Shaw+Lek+2nd+Primeau
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jun 18 @ 5:19 PM ET
Shaw+Lek+2nd+Primeau
- WaterBoy

Is this the new Ryder+Halak+2nd?
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jun 18 @ 5:21 PM ET
Shaw+Lek+2nd+Primeau
- WaterBoy


I wouldn't trade Primeau
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jun 18 @ 5:28 PM ET
Habs have lots of excess players to move, mostly forwards, along with prospects and picks... I'd rather trade for a competent D than sign Gardiner for 7 years
- obie

The Trouba trade made the value for a comparable d man seem palatable
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jun 18 @ 5:33 PM ET
Hudon turned down a qualifying offer lol! What a tool!!

Apparently we'll know more about his future on Sunday

- obie


I'm very surprised he received an offer tbh. good luck to him.
Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

Jun 18 @ 5:35 PM ET
I wouldn't trade Primeau
- obie

I wouldn't either, not at this time at least ... he might become a valuable asset (in MTL or in a trade) in a year or two.

As for the rest (Shaw, Leks & a 2nd) ... sure why not, we have many picks this year.
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