You think this Kevin Hayes nonsense affects Marner's numbers? What the (frank) were the Flyers thinking
- RickJames77

or point
or Rantanen
or Aho
or tkchuk
or Laine
or Boeser
or Connor

Because it is Toronto and we have to pay extra, or so we have been told for years. Also, other stupid (frank)in GM's overpaid their players to (frank)up the market.
- bixll

Ironically that includes Lou who people think is so much better than Dubas.

What really hurts Toronto is the media. They are being paid-off by our players' agents to report nonsense. Other teams don't deal with that.

or point
or Rantanen
or Aho
or tkchuk
or Laine
or Boeser
or Connor
- senstroll

Exactly. Big Jets fan in the office next to me. He is freakin out with these signings. Connor and Laine are going to be very expensive.

Ironically that includes Lou who people think is so much better than Dubas.
- RogerRoeper

Exactly. Not as bad as the EK and Hayes deals, but bad.

What really hurts Toronto is the media. They are being paid-off by our players' agents to report nonsense. Other teams don't deal with that.
- RogerRoeper

They just suck, they are not being paid by player agents..

Exactly. Not as bad as the EK and Hayes deals, but bad.
- bixll

The issue with guys like Nelson, Eberle, Hayes is they are late 20's supporting guys. THAT'S where you screw yourselves. And Leafs big issues are 2 overpaid supporting guys given by Lou (Marleau+Zaitsev).

What really hurts Toronto is the media. They are being paid-off by our players' agents to report nonsense. Other teams don't deal with that.
- RogerRoeper

Leafs are not alone in this...Montreal is just as insane

They just suck, they are not being paid by player agents..
- bixll

I think they are offered certain things by Ferris. When Dreger speaks about offersheets, he' stalking about what Ferris has said.

The issue with guys like Nelson, Eberle, Hayes is they are late 20's supporting guys. THAT'S where you screw yourselves. And Leafs big issues are 2 overpaid supporting guys given by Lou (Marleau+Zaitsev).
- RogerRoeper

Those 2 will be moved out and Dubie can get his team shaped better for the next 10 yr run.

Leafs are not alone in this...Montreal is just as insane
- Symba007

I think Montreal is getting better. The French media is more humble and the English media just blows the team.

or point
or Rantanen
or Aho
or tkchuk
or Laine
or Boeser
or Connor
- senstroll

Yeah, but I'm on a Leafs thread, so I figured I'd steer it in that direction.

I think Montreal is getting better. The French media is more humble and the English media just blows the team.
- RogerRoeper

Humble? there is no middle ground, just like in Toronto. There is never enough players from Quebec, never enough Francos. If a player is good, he is now a superstar, if he is struggling, he sucks and must be traded. There is a need to find a punching bag...always, they must find points to create controversy, that's what they think their job is.

Humble? there is no middle ground, just like in Toronto. There is never enough players from Quebec, never enough Francos. If a player is good, he is now a superstar, if he is struggling, he sucks and must be traded. There is a need to find a punching bag...always, they must find points to create controversy, that's what they think their job is.
- Symba007

But they aren't paid by the player agents.

But they aren't paid by the player agents.
- bixll

agents will bribe whoever they need to in order to put pressure on the team

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or Rantanen
or Aho
or tkchuk
or Laine
or Boeser
or Connor
- senstroll

Sid makes 8.7 per... These contracts are crazy.

Because it is Toronto and we have to pay extra, or so we have been told for years. Also, other stupid (frank)in GM's overpaid their players to (frank)up the market.
- bixll

I take this to the business side. The object is to win the cup not to keep all your favourite players. If signing him to 11+ (frank)s them up going forward then (frank) it ...trade him for something that makes them better.

I'm well aware the Rangers sucked, but the fact of the matter is that someone with that much ice time and opportunity will rack up points and increase their value at the TDL despite their team. Someone has to score. You can go down to any poopty team and find a player getting line 1 ice time with numbers that might surprise you.
- RickJames77

Put up similiar #'s to Nylander p/60, not playing with Matthews.

Hayes has a good agent I guess.

Trouba seems pretty happy with the trade to NYR.
Gonna be a steal of a trade for them when he signs long term.

agents will bribe whoever they need to in order to put pressure on the team
- Symba007

Bribe is a bad word in business.

Sid makes 8.7 per... These contracts are crazy.
- bixll

Sid signed a 12 year deal like 5 years ago.

No longer a comparable unfortunately.

Greed runs the league.

The issue with guys like Nelson, Eberle, Hayes is they are late 20's supporting guys. THAT'S where you screw yourselves. And Leafs big issues are 2 overpaid supporting guys given by Lou (Marleau+Zaitsev).
- RogerRoeper

Once the leagues decides on what the actual salary cap should be, we might even see more movement.
I fully expect Dubas to make several trades after July 2nd. I think its gonna be a quiet draft day and UFA day for the Leafs.

I take this to the business side. The object is to win the cup not to keep all your favourite players. If signing him to 11+ (frank)s them up going forward then (frank) it ...trade him for something that makes them better.
- The Law

Well said Masai..

I take this to the business side. The object is to win the cup not to keep all your favourite players. If signing him to 11+ (frank)s them up going forward then (frank) it ...trade him for something that makes them better.
- The Law

I agree. Dubas needs to stick to his plan. The Cap is a real thing.

Sid makes 8.7 per... These contracts are crazy.
- bixll

But remember that 8.7 in 2013 = 12 in 2019