My failed optimism is presented as the basic landscape for most Leaf fans - even ones who try to temper their expectations. There's no need to get snippy about it.

I think that if he comes here and he'll get blamed for half of our losses because he's not the player he was.

I am not saying he couldn't be valuable. I'm saying that a player of his reputation playing at his current deprecated level should not play in this market.
- Monkeypunk

You still owe Dougie an apology.

That guy got beat up by everybody
- PatC80

doesn't have to fight, just has to crosscheck DeBrusk, Marchand, McAvoy or Pastrnak as soon as one of the Leafs players gets run

I'm pretty sure that if I make it to the NHL, teammates will call me Wedger.
- Atomic Wedgie

Wedgers

My failed optimism is presented as the basic landscape for most Leaf fans - even ones who try to temper their expectations. There's no need to get snippy about it.

I think that if he comes here and he'll get blamed for half of our losses because he's not the player he was.

I am not saying he couldn't be valuable. I'm saying that a player of his reputation playing at his current deprecated level should not play in this market.
- Monkeypunk

Yeah no. Players don't live through the media like fans do.

If that was the case Gardiner would of demanded a trade years ago.

To: EDM - Marleau + Kadri + C. Brown + Zaitsev + Sparks = 18.100 mil

To TOR: - Lucic + RNH + Kassian + Larsson = 18.120 mil
(could substitute K. Russell for Larsson - or sub Benning for Larsson)
(TOR would ave 2.1 mil if it was Benning)

EDM buys out Marleau - he signs for 1M in SJ

TOR trades Lucic to X-team for a nice sweetener (Bracco or 2020 2nd + 2019 4th)

HUUUUGE TRADE but everybody does ok here - Leafs could even trade RNH for
a top 4 RHD + 3rd line center ....I'll wait for the proverbial barrage
- paulozz

In theory, this would work and it would make Dubas' job so much easier as he only has to deal with one team.
With that said, it doesn't solve the cap problems for anyone.. All it does is transfer cap issues from one team to another.

It's gonna be alright baby
It's gonna be alright love
And if the mist ever lets the sun through
I just hope I did the right thing
For me and you

Only after he crosschecked a guy from behind into the boards.
- Atomic Wedgie

Put me in coach, I'm ready...

just got off the fone with one of the ducks players.

Perry is healthy, already training super-duper extra hard this summer, drinking down gary roberts shakes and knows that last few down years were one-offs.

Playing with better linemates in toronto, on the low-end, i could see him scoring 72 goals this year.

Put me in coach, I'm ready...

- PatC80

He was probably the Leaf I hated the most over the past 25 years.

Absolutely no value whatsoever, and it seemed like every 5th game, he'd do something stupid.

Dangerously stupid.

He was probably the Leaf I hated the most over the past 25 years.

Absolutely no value whatsoever, and it seemed like every 5th game, he'd do something stupid.

Dangerously stupid.
- Atomic Wedgie

Nazem Kadri?

just got off the fone with one of the ducks players.

Perry is healthy, already training super extra hard this summer, drinking down gary roberts shakes and knows that last few down years were one-offs.

Playing with better linemates in toronto, on the low-end, i could see him scoring 72 goals this year.
- Tumbleweed

HE'S COMING

just got off the fone with one of the ducks players.

Perry is healthy, already training super extra hard this summer, drinking down gary roberts shakes and knows that last few down years were one-offs.

Playing with better linemates in toronto, on the low-end, i could see him scoring 72 goals this year.
- Tumbleweed

But how many assists?

You still owe Dougie an apology.
- Atomic Wedgie

I still irrationally hate Dave Lowry.

just got off the fone with one of the ducks players.

Perry is healthy, already training super extra hard this summer, drinking down gary roberts shakes and knows that last few down years were one-offs.

Playing with better linemates in toronto, on the low-end, i could see him scoring 72 goals this year.
- Tumbleweed

Don't you dare sully the name of the angel who was the first otherworldly being to conceived of mixing protein powder in a delicious liquid as part of a sports diet revelation.

Every single (frank)ing Habs player to ever play the game?
- Scabeh

Yes

Yeah no. Players don't live through the media like fans do.

If that was the case Gardiner would of demanded a trade years ago.
- Santo_44

I think when they're in their home markets they do, though. At least THIS home market which is 24x7 noise. That's half the problem. All of their friends and family are RIGHT THERE and they are exposed to the media and they live and breathe it, too.

They lose the insulation layer.

That's just my opinion.

just got off the fone with one of the ducks players.

Perry is healthy, already training super-duper extra hard this summer, drinking down gary roberts shakes and knows that last few down years were one-offs.

Playing with better linemates in toronto, on the low-end, i could see him scoring 72 goals this year.
- Tumbleweed

Perry is in the best shape of his life.

Its starting early

Perry is in the best shape of his life.

Its starting early
- senstroll

He has been working with you know who, who introduced him to his newest miracle, Kale smoothies.

He was probably the Leaf I hated the most over the past 25 years.

Absolutely no value whatsoever, and it seemed like every 5th game, he'd do something stupid.

Dangerously stupid.
- Atomic Wedgie

Yeah, I never liked him either.

Perhaps, he had too much truculence?

Perry is in the best shape of his life.

Its starting early
- senstroll

I just spoke with a guy who knows a hot dog vendor on Lakeshore Blvd.

Every day, at 2 pm, Perry gets a tofu sausage on a bun.

Yes
- Aetherial

That's a lie and you know it.

But how many assists?
- Atomic Wedgie

I was going to say probably similar to laine. Although after I checked he ended up having 20 assists. I thought he had like 23 goals and 2 assists at one point.

But how many assists?
- Atomic Wedgie

all of them?

Yeah, I never liked him either.

Perhaps, he had too much truculence?
- PatC80

I just looked up his stats:

25 games for the Leafs.

2 assists.

38 minutes in penalties: 4 minors, 4 majors, 1 game misconduct.

So it seems kinda bizarre I have such a hate on for him.

That's a lie and you know it.
- Scabeh

You're right. Yvon Lambert gets a pass for scoring the OT goal that eliminated the Bruins in '79