For what it's worth.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...eason-marner-maple-leafs/

they kept trouba trying to win a sc this season.
every gm in league knew wpg has cap issues and trouba wanted to play in us.
they got fair value considering the timing of the trade.
- MaximusAurelius

yes, the trade was fair value.

but far from equal value. and brutual on taking back a guy that will cost them 3.5-4M when they need to clear out space, not add.

Ferris was clearly willing to get it done prior to last season: https://www.bardown.com/m...-with-the-leafs-1.1183143

For what it's worth.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...eason-marner-maple-leafs/
- aminnes

9M for 22 goals and 69 points? I can see why they wouldn’t go for that.

I know, right?

We'd cull all birds, seagulls will be harmed, so you can't get offended. with one stone.
- PatC80

Fixed

Fixed
- bobbyisno1

You just hate me because I’m beautiful.

9M for 22 goals and 69 points? I can see why they wouldn’t go for that.
- Steven_Seagull

that article also had matthews at +$10M...a couple weeks before he signed.

just $1.6M under......

9M for 22 goals and 69 points? I can see why they wouldn’t go for that.
- Steven_Seagull

Based solely on those two numbers I can too, just like my issue with Nylander. But they did know he led the team in scoring, and they did know he would be playing with JT. There was talk he was interested in 8 million. Still too much based solely on those two numbers, but they had to know he was just getting started. I mean, they gave AM his money based partially on what he will do in the future. 11.5 for 35 goals and 65 games a year would be too much if not for his perceived potential.

9M for 22 goals and 69 points? I can see why they wouldn’t go for that.
- Steven_Seagull

nylander was said to ask for 8mln and signed for 6.9aav.
so not unrealistic to think that 7.75-8mln aav would have been a contract marner woyld have signed.
dubas didnt think that was fair value apparently - hence i say he dropped the ball (it seems he didnt understand hos good marner is - in general he has issues valueing players (holl, nylander, sparks, etc.))

9M for 22 goals and 69 points? I can see why they wouldn’t go for that.
- Steven_Seagull

gotta pay for what guys are going to do, not for what they've already done.


Unless you're the Flyers.

nylander was said to ask for 8mln and signed for 6.9aav.
so not unrealistic to think that 7.75-8mln aav would have been a contract marner woyld have signed.
dubas didnt think that was fair value apparently - hence i say he dropped the ball (it seems he didnt understand hos good marner is - in general he has issues valueing players (holl, nylander, sparks, etc.))
- MaximusAurelius

nylander was said to ask for 8mln and signed for 6.9aav.
so not unrealistic to think that 7.75-8mln aav would have been a contract marner woyld have signed.
dubas didnt think that was fair value apparently - hence i say he dropped the ball (it seems he didnt understand hos good marner is - in general he has issues valueing players (holl, nylander, sparks, etc.))
- MaximusAurelius

???

based on the articles, marner's camp took the position of $9M now or just wait until next year.

nylander was said to ask for 8mln and signed for 6.9aav.
so not unrealistic to think that 7.75-8mln aav would have been a contract marner woyld have signed.
dubas didnt think that was fair value apparently - hence i say he dropped the ball (it seems he didnt understand hos good marner is - in general he has issues valueing players (holl, nylander, sparks, etc.))
- MaximusAurelius

Good point. He wanted 9, probably settles for 8, maybe 8.5. Now he wants what AM got. At least. If this was all true and they got him at 8.5, what a bargain that deal would be going forward. 95-100 points a season for at least 1.5 less than market value. Dang.

nylander was said to ask for 8mln and signed for 6.9aav.
so not unrealistic to think that 7.75-8mln aav would have been a contract marner woyld have signed.
dubas didnt think that was fair value apparently - hence i say he dropped the ball (it seems he didnt understand hos good marner is - in general he has issues valueing players (holl, nylander, sparks, etc.))
- MaximusAurelius

LOL, you really want to try to prove your opinion of Dubas is valid. You are reaching big time.

Gotta stop living in the past.

nylander was said to ask for 8mln and signed for 6.9aav.
so not unrealistic to think that 7.75-8mln aav would have been a contract marner woyld have signed.
dubas didnt think that was fair value apparently - hence i say he dropped the ball (it seems he didnt understand hos good marner is - in general he has issues valueing players (holl, nylander, sparks, etc.))
- MaximusAurelius

Nylander signed for 7.5.

Nylander signed for 7.5.
- bobbyisno1

You keep saying this. Who cares what he signed for, his cap hit is ~6.9.

Nylander signed for 7.5.
- bobbyisno1

i literally said AAV.
that's what matters to leafs, not the actual cash.

You keep saying this. Who cares what he signed for, his cap hit is ~6.9.
- Steven_Seagull

i'm guessing nylander cares what the actual dollars he is getting is, as opposed to the made up cap hit.

gotta pay for what guys are going to do, not for what they've already done.


Unless you're the Flyers.
- BINGO!

UFA years sure.

RFA? Yeah you get a significant pay cut.

He doesn’t deserve JT money in RFA years. Not a chance.

95 points is great. But people are forgetting scoring is up like crazy. The art ross winners used to be 85 points....

i'm guessing nylander cares what the actual dollars he is getting is, as opposed to the made up cap hit.
- Tumbleweed

The Cap hit is what matters to the team and the fans, though. What he gets in actual cash is immaterial to us.

You keep saying this. Who cares what he signed for, his cap hit is ~6.9.
- Steven_Seagull

I say that cause that's what he signed for, if he gets traded some other team pays him 6.9.
He signed here for 7.5.

Dubas is scared to act. Too much to soon for him.
- Azuredoom

He’s in a pickle. Going to be a seat of your pants fun time over the next few days & weeks. Any good rumours that have legs?

Ty & Grats again to the Raps 👍

i literally said AAV.
that's what matters to leafs, not the actual cash.
- MaximusAurelius

And again his average pay is 7.5, you think he's worth that?

He’s in a pickle. Going to be a seat of your pants fun time over the next few days & weeks. Any good rumours that have legs?

Ty & Grats again to the Raps 👍
- Nighthawk

zaitsev for tanev

i'm guessing nylander cares what the actual dollars he is getting is, as opposed to the made up cap hit.
- Tumbleweed

No, not even Nylander.