That's why that cap hit for 5 years is troublesome.

Would have been great for 8 years though.

With the Leafs D being even weaker this year, they're going to need Matthews, Nylander, Marner and Tavares to have career years to succeed.
- JohnFergusonJr

Not buying this at all. You have no idea who they will add, and they are moving on a lot of crap on D

Yep. Overrated. Doesn’t show up when it counts.
- Steven_Seagull

You can't win with him. It's been proven.

Not buying this at all. You have no idea who they will add, and they are moving on a lot of crap on D
- RogerRoeper

They have nobody to add except Marlies and rookies rarely turn an already bad defensive team into a defensive juggernaut.

They can't afford UFAs.

Trades is their only hope.

Nope because that's what McDavid got and he's not as good as McDavid.
- JohnFergusonJr

yep

They have nobody to add except Marlies and rookies rarely turn an already bad defensive team into a defensive juggernaut.

They can't afford UFAs.

Trades is their only hope.
- JohnFergusonJr

Nylander for Ekblad. Kapanen for Pesce. Easy peasy.

Yeah, like you.
- Zezel

Nylander for Ekblad. Kapanen for Pesce. Easy peasy.
- Steven_Seagull

So you would trade Nylander?

So you would trade Nylander?
- Aetherial

My penis heart would be very unhappy...but yes. I’d trade Marner first, though.

My penis would be very unhappy...but yes. I’d trade Marner first, though.
- Steven_Seagull

I can't tell if you are serious?

Marner >>> Nylander

I can't tell if you are serious?

Marner >>> Nylander
- Aetherial

He’s also gonna cost >>> Nylander too.

My penis heart would be very unhappy...but yes. I’d trade Marner first, though.
- Steven_Seagull

They have nobody to add except Marlies and rookies rarely turn an already bad defensive team into a defensive juggernaut.

They can't afford UFAs.

Trades is their only hope.
- JohnFergusonJr

Well yeah, most agree on that, but I find it hard to believe they don't make a trade for a RHD.

And those Marlies players can be better than Zaitsev and Hainsey next year.

He’s also gonna cost >>> Nylander too.
- Steven_Seagull

Because he's better.

My penis heart would be very unhappy...but yes. I’d trade Marner first, though.
- Steven_Seagull

I don't know man. Marner's a madman. I can't trade him.

Well yeah, most agree on that, but I find it hard to believe they don't make a trade for a RHD.

And those Marlies players can be better than Zaitsev and Hainsey next year.
- RogerRoeper

For who? And at what price? I'd hope so but I doubt it.

Also doubt it. Rookies don't just make the team better overnight.

- JohnFergusonJr

I would probably trade marner first too because he would take in a great haul, plus cap space.

It would suck forsure but nylander wouldn’t get you what you wanted right now.

Again it would suck but it might be for the better in the future. Also nylander will have a bounce back season. He’s still a great player.

He’s also gonna cost >>> Nylander too.
- Steven_Seagull

I get the reasoning, but Nylander's medium importance, almost zero importance this past year. Marner is a critical piece.

For who? And at what price? I'd hope so but I doubt it.

Also doubt it. Rookies don't just make the team better overnight.
- JohnFergusonJr

agreed.

as much as it's gardiner's time to go, it was a downgrade when he was out of the lineup.

I wouldn't trade Marner for 4 firsts, even if they were gonna all be in the top ten picks. Because we have Matthews, Tavares, Rielly and Andersen NOW. (frank) picks.

I would probably trade marner first too because he would take in a great haul, plus cap space.

It would suck forsure but nylander wouldn’t get you what you wanted right now.

Again it would suck but it might be for the better in the future. Also nylander will have a bounce back season. He’s still a great player.
- bryant

The Leafs shouldn't be in a rush to trade anybody for the sake of next year.

Let Nylander get back on a line with Matthews, get him to score his 25-30 goals, 70+ points and then trade him for what you need when his value is higher.

Nylander can get the Leafs what they need, it's just going to take some more time.

They'll be no offerhseets, Marner will sign an extension and they will trade for a RHD.

You people need to relaxe. A core of Matthews, Marner, JT, Kadri, Nylander, Kapanen, Johnsson, Rielly, Muzzin Andersen will be very good.

Islanders will be much worse, as will Columbus, Pittsburgh, Washington,.

I wouldn't trade Marner for 4 firsts, even if they were gonna all be in the top ten picks. Because we have Matthews, Tavares, Rielly and Andersen NOW. (frank) picks.
- Zezel

But those picks could become anything. One might even be as good as Marner! We could use a guy like that.

The Leafs shouldn't be in a rush to trade anybody for the sake of next year.

Let Nylander get back on a line with Matthews, get him to score his 25-30 goals, 70+ points and then trade him for what you need when his value is higher.

Nylander can get the Leafs what they need, it's just going to take some more time.
- JohnFergusonJr

This I agree. with. You don't trade a young blue chip forward when his value is at it's lowest.
It is impossible he has a 5% shooting % next season.

They'll be no offerhseets, Marner will sign an extension and they will trade for a RHD.

You people need to relaxe. A core of Matthews, Marner, JT, Kadri, Nylander, Kapanen, Johnsson, Rielly, Muzzin Andersen will be very good.

Islanders will be much worse, as will Columbus, Pittsburgh, Washington,.
- RogerRoeper

yeah, guys! RELAXE!

I wouldn't trade Marner for 4 firsts, even if they were gonna all be in the top ten picks. Because we have Matthews, Tavares, Rielly and Andersen NOW. (frank) picks.
- Zezel

TRade those picks for help now.