I believe that is true.
- Aetherial

Ek will have Marner traded to every team in the league. My proposal was a warm up. I can only imagine the $hit he'll be flinging. Roeper's guts may explode! 😂

Hypothetically, would you be more upset to lose Marner or to lose both Nylander and Kadri?
- PatC80

I'd be more upset to lose Marner. Marner is a first overall pick level of player.

Oh man. Leaf fans.
- Santo_44

and your contribution to the discussion is ???

You think the Nylander saga was handled properly? You think Matthews for 5 years was a good deal?

You trade him after the December deadline so he loses a season and loses bargaining power.

Imagine the climate right now if the Leafs let Nylander sit. Players really would start to think twice.

Right now, the GMs are caving.
- Aetherial

I'm with you.

Just say no to Red Lobster man. That's like eating Little Caesars fake pizza. Must avoid!
- gergeswillems

I like both to be honest. So give me the free meal

Hypothetically, would you be more upset to lose Marner or to lose both Nylander and Kadri?
- PatC80

Marner way more.

What exactly has Nylander shown? Kadri is a good piece at a good price but he is nearing 30 (I think) and contributed heavily to failure during the last two playoffs. Marner is likely to be a top 10 forward in this league for a lot of years.

and your contribution to the discussion is ???

You think the Nylander saga was handled properly? You think Matthews for 5 years was a good deal?
- Aetherial

Nylander's contract is fine, but yes it was handled poorly.
IMO, Matthews had to get paid because of what Tavares got.

Hypothetically, would you be more upset to lose Marner or to lose both Nylander and Kadri?
- PatC80

Marner

Ek will have Marner traded to every team in the league. My proposal was a warm up. I can only imagine the $hit he'll be flinging. Roeper's guts may explode! 😂


- gergeswillems

Aw (frank) that thing ate Taco Bell

Ek will have Marner traded to every team in the league. My proposal was a warm up. I can only imagine the $hit he'll be flinging. Roeper's guts may explode! 😂


- gergeswillems

and your contribution to the discussion is ???

You think the Nylander saga was handled properly? You think Matthews for 5 years was a good deal?
- Aetherial

Nylander? I don’t know I wasn’t in the negotiations. I have zero clue what both sides wanted and who budged. I doubt you do either.

Matthews? Yes. They can’t afford to pay him 14 million at 8 years. It’s not hard to understand.

Look at cap percentage comparables. Mcdavid took less and seems like he regrets it. Matthew probably learned from that.

Nylander's contract is fine, but yes it was handled poorly.
IMO, Matthews had to get paid because of what Tavares got.
- PatC80

Ultimately. Nylanders contract is not the worst in the league, but I wouldn't be sad to see him traded. I am more p*ssed at the way the players are holding the GMs hostage and the GMs are caving and it is only going to get worse.

I like both to be honest. So give me the free meal
- Buck Norris

Kadri could very well be a cap casualty if Marner gets what he's asking for.
- PatC80

Kadri being traded is more about not learning from his mistakes and letting his team down and sucking alot last year than about the cap. If it was only about relief the Leafs would be talking about a Nylander trade. Leafs are stacked at RW.

I'm with you.
- mykokes

Hindsight is a female dog.

One thing is for sure missing a whole NHL a season ruins Nylanders development more than half.

Another thing is the Leafs have a less chance of winning missing a 1st like player.

Teams trade multiple 1sts for a rental 1st liner ffs.

Nylander's contract is fine, but yes it was handled poorly.
IMO, Matthews had to get paid because of what Tavares got.
- PatC80

Too much for too short a time IMO

But I don’t care about that if it doesn’t affect the rest of our team, which it may.

With the cap maybe being lower does his agent give some of the dough back.

( since lots in here are concerned he should get a percentage of the cap )

Nylander? I don’t know I wasn’t in the negotiations. I have zero clue what both sides wanted and who budged. I doubt you do either.

Matthews? Yes. They can’t afford to pay him 14 million at 8 years. It’s not hard to understand.

Look at cap percentage comparables. Mcdavid took less and seems like he regrets it. Matthew probably learned from that.
- Santo_44

No, but I don't like the way the Nylander thing went down and then he absolutely sucked for the year.

Matthews Vs. McDavid... Yeah McDavid may have regrets but I would suggest it has more to do with playing for a barely sub-arctic gong show than the money.

Matthews signed with a team that is pretty flawed, but I think we saw that they are also pretty close to serious contention no?

Also, Matthews <<<< McDavid. I would like to think that will change, but from what I have seen, I don't expect it to.

Aw (frank) that thing ate Taco Bell
- Zezel

And just when Taco Bell became the forth largest restraunt chain, beating out Burger King

Hindsight is a female dog.

One thing is for sure missing a whole NHL a season ruins Nylanders development more than half.

Another thing is the Leafs have a less chance of winning missing a 1st like player.

Teams trade multiple 1sts for a rental 1st liner ffs.
- Santo_44

?

I get your point, but I am trying to think of an example of that?

No, but I don't like the way the Nylander thing went down and then he absolutely sucked for the year.

Matthews Vs. McDavid... Yeah McDavid may have regrets but I would suggest it has more to do with playing for a barely sub-arctic gong show.

Matthews signed with a team that is pretty flawed, but I think we saw that they are also pretty close to serious contention no?
- Aetherial

Sure, it sucked for both sides. It’s the way the negotiation went down...who knows who was sticking to their price and who budged.

And yeah for sure...but also he’s a superstar and if anyone deserves to get paid it’s the best player.

He took less money so players like Lucic and Koskinen could get overpaid. It sucks and as a player it’s a kick to the stomach.

I don’t blame Matthews at all for getting paid. Superstars are worth every penny.

No, but I don't like the way the Nylander thing went down and then he absolutely sucked for the year.

Matthews Vs. McDavid... Yeah McDavid may have regrets but I would suggest it has more to do with playing for a barely sub-arctic gong show than the money.

Matthews signed with a team that is pretty flawed, but I think we saw that they are also pretty close to serious contention no?

Also, Matthews <<<< McDavid. I would like to think that will change, but from what I have seen, I don't expect it to.
- Aetherial

No, Matthews will not become better then McDavid. McDavid is Matthews plus 20mph. IMO

Aw (frank) that thing ate Taco Bell
- Zezel

?

I get your point, but I am trying to think of an example of that?
- Aetherial

Off the top of my head I can’t think of one specifically.

I can think of Hanzal for a 1st,2nd,4th. The Tatar trade was a 1st,2nd and 3rd.

Those players are no where near Nylander. In a cap world you don’t waste years of contending.

No, but I don't like the way the Nylander thing went down and then he absolutely sucked for the year.

Matthews Vs. McDavid... Yeah McDavid may have regrets but I would suggest it has more to do with playing for a barely sub-arctic gong show than the money.

Matthews signed with a team that is pretty flawed, but I think we saw that they are also pretty close to serious contention no?

Also, Matthews <<<< McDavid. I would like to think that will change, but from what I have seen, I don't expect it to.
- Aetherial

Over a million a mth of 8 years...haha, I doubt he’s very upset.

- gergeswillems

Yup. Can't name a better seafood chain and for the life of me the cheaper the better when it comes to pizza lol