Way over simplified, McDavid is excellent, so is Matthews. Few players in the NHL have the shot and release that Matthews has. Different skill set, glad Matthews is a Leaf.
- winsix

Too bad he will walk in 5 years in his prime. That’s just an awful contract for the leafs and an awesome one for Matthews

What bothers me the most is player agents using cap percentage as a measuring stick. It's a terrible idea for the team.
- PatC80

I agree. It’s a laughable concept many here seem to have no problem with.

Interestingly, I feel the opposite. I don't think he fetches a top line Dman. I don't mind the idea of trading him, but after the holdout and then the abysmal performance, I feel like it would be the ultimate sell-low ... which is also a very traditionally Leafy move.

Ugh.
- Aetherial

Everything's gonna be okay.

Too bad he will walk in 5 years in his prime. That’s just an awful contract for the leafs and an awesome one for Matthews
- gamerdoc

I really hate bullpoop like this. How would you know? What if the Leafs offer him the biggest contract ever a year before he's UFA? You think he leaves it on the table?

Can we drop the Arizona Coyotees fantasy? They probably will be in Houston in 5 years.

I think that is the biggest fear I have.

Somehow, Marner will get 11+ and Rantanen and Point come in under 10. I just feel like that is going to happen.

You can argue "taxes" but I could argue sponsorship money would be greater in Toronto.

If I felt like the contracts for Nylander and Matthews were "good", I would be more optimistic. I feel they are barely adequate.
- Aetherial

Trust me, Point and Rantanen are not getting anything close to Marner $ in endorsements.

"Taxes" are becoming the laziest excuse ever.

Seems like it only happens in Toronto though. Kinda wish Rantanen and Point ask for $11M+
- PatC80

The issue that is going in Toronto is the media is working against the Leafs and for the players. Many are actually speaking on behalf of Marner's agent.

yeah.

Rit noghw, it is Marleau and Zaitsev contracts that hurt.

I really think Karma is going to bite us in the ass over that Matthews term.

hey... maybe if Matthews wants to go home, McDavid will also!
- Aetherial

This is what I keep telling people. Forget about Matthews and Nylander making what they do, it's overpaying for poop players that will kill you. Marleau and Zaitsev are making as much as John Tavares next season. Thanks LOu.

Pay your stars but DO NOT overpay for poopty dime a dozen players. Lou loves doing that.

If Carolina rejected Ehlers for Pesce, why would they accept Kapanen? IMO, it might cost us Kap and Nylander
- PatC80

Lol

Peace isn’t that good man

And Ehlers vs Kap

When you consider everything it’s closer than you think. I’d bet there are GMS that would take Kap over Ehlers.

Kap hasn’t signed a contact yet.

Too bad he will walk in 5 years in his prime. That’s just an awful contract for the leafs and an awesome one for Matthews
- gamerdoc

So salty

We love it

Apparently Philly is about to give Hayes 7 million. Yikes. 1 time 50 point guy...

Apparently Philly is about to give Hayes 7 million. Yikes. 1 time 50 point guy...
- RogerRoeper

Lol

Peace isn’t that good man

And Ehlers vs Kap

When you consider everything it’s closer than you think. I’d bet there are GMS that would take Kap over Ehlers.

Kap hasn’t signed a contact yet.
- Santo_44

I'd definitely take Kapanen over Ehlers.

I really hate bullpoop like this. How would you know? What if the Leafs offer him the biggest contract ever a year before he's UFA? You think he leaves it on the table?

Can we drop the Arizona Coyotees fantasy? They probably will be in Houston in 5 years.
- RogerRoeper

Quebec City!

He'll never go there

Trust me, Point and Rantanen are not getting anything close to Marner $ in endorsements.

"Taxes" are becoming the laziest excuse ever.
- RogerRoeper

yes

Apparently Philly is about to give Hayes 7 million. Yikes. 1 time 50 point guy...
- RogerRoeper

for realz?

for realz?
- Aetherial

Yup. Mackenzie's reporting it. Hilarious.

But, but NYlander...

Quebec City!

He'll never go there
- Aetherial

for realz?
- Aetherial

What am I missing about Kevin Hayes? I've never been a fan of his. Ok so he's big. What else does he bring? 7 million? Hard pass for me.

Too bad he will walk in 5 years in his prime. That’s just an awful contract for the leafs and an awesome one for Matthews
- gamerdoc

Disagree - good deal for the Leafs. He will have to earn the next contract, if he's worthy and wants to stay great, if not, lots of excellent young players coming along that want to be a Leaf. As the turnout at the Raptors parade showed, (the six) is not such a bad place to be a champion, hard to think of better. Roughly 6.7% of the population of the country participated in the parade during a work day - not bad.

basing this on his infantile posts - when Grabovski, Kulemin and Lebda were on the Leafs, RogerRoeper was still in diapers.
I wonder how big the Nylander and Dubas posters are on the walls of his bedroom.

basing this on his infantile posts - when Grabovski, Kulemin and Lebda were on the Leafs, RogerRoeper was still in diapers.
I wonder how big the Nylander and Dubas posters are on the walls of his bedroom.
- MaximusAurelius

I'm 44 years-old...

Didn't realize you had to be so young to like Dubas and Nylander.

Hayes and JVR both 7m

What am I missing about Kevin Hayes? I've never been a fan of his. Ok so he's big. What else does he bring? 7 million? Hard pass for me.
- gergeswillems

Nothing - he's shyte. Can't shoot or score to save his life. $7 million for a 3rd liner

Hayes and JVR both 7m
- mr.sir

Leafs were wise to never want to sign JVR long-term. He's so one-dimensional and will only get worse...

Nothing - he's shyte. Can't shoot or score to save his life. $7 million for a 3rd liner

- winsix

That's how you kill your cap. It's not paying your young stars.