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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 19 @ 11:08 AM ET
OK, so after July 1, the Leafs pay whatever % of the Marleau contract is due.

Let's assume they trade him with the idea that the destination team will buy him out, and San Jose signs him for like 1 M.

Which destination teams have the cap space, and the cash for a buy out and what would it cost.

Detroit?
Montreal?
Florida?
Columbus?
Arizona?

Cost... Bracco? Or Johnsson?, Kapanen?, a 2nd?

- Aetherial


I don't think a team would buy him out. Because it's the full cap hit of 6.25M for the entire season. Plus, it seems like he only wants to play in California.

With that said, I could see a team like New Jersey or Colorado making a trade for him. Good guy to help develop their younger players and they have more than enough cap space to make it work.


PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 19 @ 11:09 AM ET
As much as we've all heard this before, I don't think Florida is joking around this year. They spent the better half of the year moving out cap space once they were out of the playoff picture to go big game hunting in the off season. I don't see them turning around after that and taking on bad contracts even for just a year.
- RickJames77



The counter-argument to that is, what if Florida misses out on both Panarin and Bobrovsky?
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jun 19 @ 11:11 AM ET
The counter-argument to that is, what if Florida misses out on both Panarin and Bobrovsky?
- PatC80

Offer sheet Marner, obviousy
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 19 @ 11:12 AM ET
Offer sheet Marner, obviousy
- RickJames77


The Habs will respond to this by offer sheeting McAvoy.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 19 @ 11:13 AM ET
Offer sheet Marner, obviousy
- RickJames77


Yeah, that could very likely happen
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 19 @ 11:13 AM ET
The Habs will respond to this by offer sheeting McAvoy.
- Scabeh


McAvoy would have to sign the offer-sheet.. It won't happen
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 19 @ 11:14 AM ET
OK, so after July 1, the Leafs pay whatever % of the Marleau contract is due.

Let's assume they trade him with the idea that the destination team will buy him out, and San Jose signs him for like 1 M.

Which destination teams have the cap space, and the cash for a buy out and what would it cost.

Detroit?
Montreal?
Florida?
Columbus?
Arizona?

Cost... Bracco? Or Johnsson?, Kapanen?, a 2nd?

- Aetherial


the Orpik trade/buyout is probably pretty comparable

Capitals traded Oprik and backup goaltender Philipp Grubuaer to Colorado for a second-round pick



from what I read the Caps wanted a 1st for Grubuaer but took at 2nd because they took Orpik

orpik had a 5.5 cap hit. they bought him out and were stuck with 2 years
2.5
1.5

The difference being PM cap hit doesnt change
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 19 @ 11:15 AM ET
Leafs Cap:

Assuming they get rid of Marleau, Sparks and Zaitsev, AND Gauthier and Petan are on the roster

They have 57.4 million tied up next year and they need to sign

1 Backup Goalie
4 Forwards
3 Dmen
+ 1 more Dman or Forward to make a 23 man roster

If the cap is 82 million and Marner gets his 11.5 (he will)

They now have about 13 million to sign 8 players.

Kapanen 3.5 and Johnsson 2.5 (probably lowball guesses, they could be offer-sheeted at least that much)... assuming they aren't part of the price for getting out underneath of Marleau.

They have 7 million to sign 6 players.

They are going to have like 8 or 9 guys making around the league minimum - 1M.

This doesn't look good.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 19 @ 11:16 AM ET
McAvoy would have to sign the offer-sheet.. It won't happen
- PatC80


Crazier things have happened!
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jun 19 @ 11:16 AM ET
The Habs will respond to this by offer sheeting McAvoy.
- Scabeh

Ok Max, let me explain to you what a 10.2 (c) player is in the simplest of terms:

Can't touch this

Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 19 @ 11:16 AM ET
the Orpik trade/buyout is probably pretty comparable




from what I read the Caps wanted a 1st for Grubuaer but took at 2nd because they took Orpik

orpik had a 5.5 cap hit. they bought him out and were stuck with 2 years
2.5
1.5

The difference being PM cap hit doesnt change

- senstroll


So Johnsson or Bracco maybe? Are we being too optimistic?

RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jun 19 @ 11:16 AM ET
McAvoy would have to sign the offer-sheet.. It won't happen
- PatC80

For the 20th time, McAvoy doesn't even have the option to sign an offer sheet
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 19 @ 11:17 AM ET
Leafs Cap:

Assuming they get rid of Marleau, Sparks and Zaitsev, AND Gauthier and Petan are on the roster

They have 57.4 million tied up next year and they need to sign

1 Backup Goalie
4 Forwards
3 Dmen
+ 1 more Dman or Forward to make a 23 man roster

If the cap is 82 million and Marner gets his 11.5 (he will)

They now have about 13 million to sign 8 players.

Kapanen 3.5 and Johnsson 2.5 (probably lowball guesses, they could be offer-sheeted at least that much)

They have 7 million to sign 6 players.

They a re going to have like 8 or 9 guys making around the league minimum - 1M.

This doesn't look good.

- Aetherial



If Marner wants 11.5, he can (frank) off.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 19 @ 11:18 AM ET
If Marner wants 11.5, he can (frank) off.
- Steven_Seagull


I know
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 19 @ 11:19 AM ET
I know
- Aetherial



I hope he gets traded at the draft. Greedy Willie Mitchy.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jun 19 @ 11:20 AM ET
OK, so after July 1, the Leafs pay whatever % of the Marleau contract is due.

Let's assume they trade him with the idea that the destination team will buy him out, and San Jose signs him for like 1 M.

Which destination teams have the cap space, and the cash for a buy out and what would it cost.

Detroit?
Montreal?
Florida?
Columbus?
Arizona?

Cost... Bracco? Or Johnsson?, Kapanen?, a 2nd?

- Aetherial


Arizona is my best guess ....and it'll cost Bracco and/or a mid pick. Kapanen or Johnsson isn't worth it ...better to keep Marleau if that's the demand.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 19 @ 11:20 AM ET
Leafs Cap:

Assuming they get rid of Marleau, Sparks and Zaitsev, AND Gauthier and Petan are on the roster

They have 57.4 million tied up next year and they need to sign

1 Backup Goalie
4 Forwards
3 Dmen
+ 1 more Dman or Forward to make a 23 man roster

If the cap is 82 million and Marner gets his 11.5 (he will)

They now have about 13 million to sign 8 players.

Kapanen 3.5 and Johnsson 2.5 (probably lowball guesses, they could be offer-sheeted at least that much)... assuming they aren't part of the price for getting out underneath of Marleau.

They have 7 million to sign 6 players.

They are going to have like 8 or 9 guys making around the league minimum - 1M.

This doesn't look good.

- Aetherial


They'd have to make more moves. I think we are taking back salary in any Zaitsev deal.

My guess, Zaitsev, Marleau, Brown, Sparks and Kadri are no longer Maple Leafs at the start of this upcoming season.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 19 @ 11:21 AM ET
The Flyers are to blame.

Again.

- Scabeh

Holmgren! Holmgren!
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 19 @ 11:22 AM ET
If Marner wants 11.5, he can (frank) off.
- Steven_Seagull

the price of doing business.

He'll get 10.5.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 19 @ 11:22 AM ET
Leafs Cap:

Assuming they get rid of Marleau, Sparks and Zaitsev, AND Gauthier and Petan are on the roster

They have 57.4 million tied up next year and they need to sign

1 Backup Goalie
4 Forwards
3 Dmen
+ 1 more Dman or Forward to make a 23 man roster

If the cap is 82 million and Marner gets his 11.5 (he will)

They now have about 13 million to sign 8 players.

Kapanen 3.5 and Johnsson 2.5 (probably lowball guesses, they could be offer-sheeted at least that much)... assuming they aren't part of the price for getting out underneath of Marleau.

They have 7 million to sign 6 players.

They are going to have like 8 or 9 guys making around the league minimum - 1M.

This doesn't look good.

- Aetherial


All this and we havent even won a cup yet.

lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 19 @ 11:24 AM ET
Coming from the chief of sucking it, I'll take it on your authority lums
- RickJames77


I can only dream of sucking it like Boston in game 7
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 19 @ 11:24 AM ET
For the 20th time, McAvoy doesn't even have the option to sign an offer sheet
- RickJames77


I never said it would be this year!

#Oneday
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 19 @ 11:26 AM ET
All this and we havent even won a cup yet.


- Fakepartofme


The Leafs mistake was drafting too many good players who became great too quickly.

You need slow risers so you can benefit from a discount deal before they start performing like superstars.

Blow it all up again.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jun 19 @ 11:26 AM ET
I can only dream of sucking it like Boston in game 7
- lumlums

I think you've had enough experience

The score was 4-1. We had them right where we wanted them!
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jun 19 @ 11:27 AM ET
11.6 is fine for Mitch..For 8 years.
- RogerRoeper


It's really not.
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