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Hokeeguy9
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bethlehem, PA
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 19 @ 12:25 AM ET
When I came down on Felch for his moves today, I got blasted by the Flyers faithfull. Over7mil for a 2-3C who is a tad slow, is ridiculous. I wonder how the guys who gave it to me then, feel now?

The Flyers will be better, and they’ll put people in the seats, but Felch is not making prudent decisions in my book. Very disappointed so far!
Hokeeguy9
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bethlehem, PA
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 19 @ 12:26 AM ET
Exactly! I admired what Hexy was doing. He took the patient approach. Played the long game. Build through the draft. Develop them the right way. He had a huge mess to clean up from Holmgren.

Flyers didn't allow Hexy to see his plan through and went all Bobby Clarke. Steal the headlines and fast track it. Hexy gets canned and Holmgren stays? How does that make any sense?

- gergeswillems


This!!
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 19 @ 12:28 AM ET
You get it.
- gergeswillems


Thank You! I think there does need to be a happy medium as well though. I think Hextall maybe could have given up some of the prospects? I do not follow the Flyers closely though. I know Garth Snow also seemed to want to hold onto every prospect but he also never bothered to hire good development people or even a good coach so he had multiple issues. At some point you do not to identify I can give up these prospects and build around these other prospects.
jduran10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Regina, SK
Joined: 07.26.2013

Jun 19 @ 12:33 AM ET
This!!
- Hokeeguy9


Yes I agree...

Hexy I know u r reading the boards here
We have an improved team but at a significant cost.
It appears as though our plan is to just be relevant...
not build for a cup. Anyone can build this...
Hexys moves were slow, methodical, and for the betterment of the club, short and long term.
Im not sure where we r going... I just hope for the best
Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Jun 19 @ 12:33 AM ET
I mean... just last offseason Tyler Bozak only got 5m x 3y. This is insane.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jun 19 @ 12:36 AM ET
Thank You! I think there does need to be a happy medium as well though. I think Hextall maybe could have given up some of the prospects? I do not follow the Flyers closely though. I know Garth Snow also seemed to want to hold onto every prospect but he also never bothered to hire good development people or even a good coach so he had multiple issues. At some point you do not to identify I can give up these prospects and build around these other prospects.
- ses111

I do believe in trading your surplus for needs. That's why I can't understand why the Leafs won't trade from their surplus of scoring wingers for the top 4 defenseman they need. I don't think Hexy should've been fired though. I thought he was doing a great job.

I think the Flyers took for granted the great job Hexy was doing. Can you honestly say it's smart what they're doing right now? I don't. I want Yzerman to take the same approach Hexy did. Be patient. Build though the draft. If a trade is there to improve then you do it. But don't be addicted to grabbing headlines like Clarke and Holmgren did. No one wins the Cup in the off season.
Hckygoalie31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 09.25.2017

Jun 19 @ 12:36 AM ET
This!!
- Hokeeguy9


Perhaps because Hexy drafted well and got the cap under control, yet gave us guys like Boyd Gordon, Vandevelde, Weiss, Folin, Lehtera (yes i know about Frost and Farabee too), wouldn't fire Hak, and wouldn't use his prospects?

Think we would have seen Hart at all last year if Hexy stayed? No. How about Meyers or Friedman or Morin? Nope....wouldn't see them either. We'd still be looking at MacDonald and Folin.

Hexy was like a guy who saved all of his money...yet did nothing with it. He gave a 5 year plan...and that plan never fully developed into an actual competitive team.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 19 @ 12:39 AM ET
I do believe in trading your surplus for needs. That's why I can't understand why the Leafs won't trade from their surplus of scoring wingers for the top 4 defenseman they need. I don't think Hexy should've been fired though. I thought he was doing a great job.

I think the Flyers took for granted the great job Hexy was doing. Can you honestly say it's smart what they're doing right now? I don't. I want Yzerman to take the same approach Hexy did. Be patient. Build though the draft. If a trade or there to improve then you do it. But don't be addicted to grabbing headlines like Clarke and Holmgren did. No one wins the Cup in the off season.

- gergeswillems


I thought the Leafs should have moved Nylander for a dman. It would not have been bad to give Hextall a little more time. It's tough with ownership in Philly and not winning the Cup in a long time.

I think the Wings are in great shape with Stevie Y and he will do the right things. Stevie did a great job with Tampa.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jun 19 @ 12:39 AM ET
Perhaps because Hexy drafted well and got the cap under control, yet gave us guys like Boyd Gordon, Vandevelde, Weiss, Folin, Lehtera (yes i know about Frost and Farabee too), wouldn't fire Hak, and wouldn't use his prospects?

Think we would have seen Hart at all last year if Hexy stayed? No. How about Meyers or Friedman or Morin? Nope....wouldn't see them either. We'd still be looking at MacDonald and Folin.

Hexy was like a guy who saved all of his money...yet did nothing with it. He gave a 5 year plan...and that plan never fully developed into an actual competitive team.

- Hckygoalie31


So you make some valid points. You're saying Hexy was too patient. But he was building that team for the long term. Now it seems all about the short term. Do you see the Flyers succeeding under Fletcher?
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jun 19 @ 12:42 AM ET
I thought the Leafs should have moved Nylander for a dman. It would not have been bad to give Hextall a little more time. It's tough with ownership in Philly and not winning the Cup in a long time.

I think the Wings are in great shape with Stevie Y and he will do the right things. Stevie did a great job with Tampa.

- ses111

I'm very excited about Stevie Y being the new Red Wings GM. I know it'll take him 4-5 years to clean up Holland's mess. I'm willing to be patient as long as I see progression. Holland just kept spinning his wheels looking for quick fixes.
Dyaciuk
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 19 @ 12:45 AM ET
As someone who can't stand the Rangers, this deal is awesome and makes perfect sense.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 19 @ 12:46 AM ET
I'm very excited about Stevie Y being the new Red Wings GM. I know it'll take him 4-5 years to clean up Holland's mess. I'm willing to be patient as long as I see progression. Holland just kept spinning his wheels looking for quick fixes.
- gergeswillems


I'm sure Stevie Y learned a lot from one of my favorites Jimmy D. Jimmy built that Islander dynasty with his drafts. You have to see progress and you need to know when to make your move though.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jun 19 @ 12:48 AM ET
I'm sure Stevie Y learned a lot from one of my favorites Jimmy D. Jimmy built that Islander dynasty with his drafts. You have to see progress and you need to know when to make your move though.
- ses111

Ha! Jimmy D! I was a little kid when Jimmy D came over to the Red Wings but I clearly remember him saying "I have a 9 year plan."
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 19 @ 12:51 AM ET
Ha! Jimmy D! I was a little kid when Jimmy D came over to the Red Wings but I clearly remember him saying "I have a 9 year plan."
- gergeswillems


I would have loved to see Jimmy come back to the Islanders instead of the Garth Snow nightmare. Jimmy could have been president and hired a GM. I think Lou was the right hire last year. Lou still knows how to build an organization.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jun 19 @ 12:53 AM ET
I would have loved to see Jimmy come back to the Islanders instead of the Garth Snow nightmare. Jimmy could have been president and hired a GM. I think Lou was the right hire last year. Lou still knows how to build an organization.
- ses111

As far as I'm concerned the Isles hit a home run hiring Lou and Trotz.
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Jun 19 @ 12:54 AM ET



Biggest winner of the day is Matt Duchene's agent

"See what that Kevin dude in NY got? well my client has had 7 season better than Kevin's best one"
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 19 @ 12:56 AM ET
As far as I'm concerned the Isles hit a home run hiring Lou and Trotz.
- gergeswillems


Especially Trotz and what he did to turn around the defense. Trotz is worth every penny and I really want to see what he can do with a little more offense.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jun 19 @ 12:56 AM ET
It took the flyers 2 weeks to sign him to that contract?? I think Hayes and his agent were dead set on going to free agency and the flyers panicked and just through him a blank check.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jun 19 @ 12:57 AM ET
Biggest winner of the day is Matt Duchene's agent

"See what Kevin dude in NY got? well my client has had 7 season better than Kevin's best one"

- classic321

Oh yeah. Duchene and Panarin's agents are smiling like a butcher's dog right now...

gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jun 19 @ 1:05 AM ET
It took the flyers 2 weeks to sign him to that contract?? I think Hayes and his agent were dead set on going to free agency and the flyers panicked and just through him a blank check.
- drummer829

Flyers remind me of the guy who goes to the bar and hits on the first hot chick he sees and doesn't notice any of the other fine women coming after. He becomes so obsessed with getting the girls number and it takes him 3 hours of buying her drinks to get her drunk enough to give him her phone number. So he goes home and brags about getting this girls number but then sees his buddy with a woman who's even hotter. Guy asks "hey where did you meet her?" Buddy says, "At the same bar you were." Guy says "Man how did I miss her?" Buddy says "You were too busy hitting on her mom!"
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 19 @ 1:41 AM ET
I thought the Leafs should have moved Nylander for a dman. It would not have been bad to give Hextall a little more time. It's tough with ownership in Philly and not winning the Cup in a long time.

I think the Wings are in great shape with Stevie Y and he will do the right things. Stevie did a great job with Tampa.

- ses111


Yes he did great things, but never won a Cup!
Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

Jun 19 @ 2:00 AM ET
Ah yes, the good ol' silly UFA season ... the most dangerous time of the year for a GM, it can screw a team's future and break a GM's career in no time.

Personally, I wouldn't even look at UFA's unless I was a serious contender for the Cup and I needed that final piece of the puzzle to get me over the top ... otherwise just run away and don't look back!

Giving contracts over 4-5 years is nuts IMO unless it's for a genuine superstar ... too much risks involved.

PS: We all know who ends up paying for these ludicrous contracts in the end ... fans ... enjoy your $50 beers and $25 hot-dogs folks!
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 19 @ 2:10 AM ET
When I came down on Felch for his moves today, I got blasted by the Flyers faithfull. Over7mil for a 2-3C who is a tad slow, is ridiculous. I wonder how the guys who gave it to me then, feel now?

The Flyers will be better, and they’ll put people in the seats, but Felch is not making prudent decisions in my book. Very disappointed so far!

- Hokeeguy9


I 100% agree on this one...TERRIBLE signing for Fletcher, absolutely terrible. The only way these deals have any silver lining is if the Flyers win the cup in the next 2-3 years, otherwise they are screwed for the future.
cranktheradio
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Greensburg, PA
Joined: 07.02.2011

Jun 19 @ 2:17 AM ET
Wow...really glad the Pen's McCann and Kahun are only RFA's next season. And, Bjugstad's locked up. Boy did they get a GREAT deal on Guentzel.
temmer29
New York Islanders
Location: London, ON
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jun 19 @ 2:35 AM ET
So Trouba is already on the Rangers logo on the Rumor Chart... Sign and trade? Very exciting! I am guessing Eberle is still up there because... you know... Sign and trade!!! Bedlam!
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