Fletcher confirmed
- BenderRodriguez

I backed Fletcher earlier. I can not anymore. The contract without a NMC is fine. With it it's terrible. Ghost or one of TK, Linblom, or NoPa are gone

No one has any idea what the roster will look like at the expansion draft.

And honestly, I'd be more concerned trying to win with Jake and G in the next three years than putting the expansion draft ahead of all else.
- hereticpride

How hard is it to project and the potential that they could lose a good young player? Giving Hayes a NMC is gross mismanagement.

They were always going to lose a good player with or without Hayes where they not?
- daryl stanley

Giroux
Coots
Patrick
TK

Provy
Sanheim
Myers
Ghost

Hart

Rather lose an older JvR or Jake than a TK or Lindblom

How hard is it to project and the potential that they could lose a good young player? Giving Hayes a NMC is gross mismanagement.
- MJL

Again, the draft is not tomorrow. The roster will look different by then. You have zero idea what they're losing right now. Zero.

How hard is it to project and the potential that they could lose a good young player? Giving Hayes a NMC is gross mismanagement.
- MJL

They were always going to lose a good Player no? Hayes or no Hayes

Again, the draft is not tomorrow. The roster will look different by then. You have zero what they're losing right now. Zero.
- hereticpride

Yes, Fletcher has another full off season to work his magic before the ED. God I hope this team wins this year.

Lindblom i would be upset to lose. but losing TK, i would (frank)ing flip

Lindblom i would be upset to lose. but losing TK, i would (frank)ing flip
- Mordecai

Still think Ghost is traded and they go 7-3-1.

Giroux
Coots
Patrick
TK

Provy
Sanheim
Myers
Ghost

Hart

Rather lose an older JvR or Jake than a TK or Lindblom
- bulet13

just a thought...

in 2021, G will have 1 year left on his contract, and will be 33 years old. Any chance he either gets traded that year at the deadline, or before the expansion draft?

I backed Fletcher earlier. I can not anymore. The contract without a NMC is fine. With it it's terrible. Ghost or one of TK, Linblom, or NoPa are gone
- bulet13

I'm with you here. Seems like a lot of term and cap space to give up while being forced to protect him with all the young pieces they have that could blossom between now and then. Obviously, a lot can happen between now and the expansion draft, but it feels like they have to win a cup in the next few years for this to be worthwhile.

just a thought...

in 2021, G will have 1 year left on his contract, and will be 33 years old. Any chance he either gets traded that year at the deadline, or before the expansion draft?
- the deaninator

No. G should be a flyer for life if he so chooses

just a thought...

in 2021, G will have 1 year left on his contract, and will be 33 years old. Any chance he either gets traded that year at the deadline, or before the expansion draft?
- the deaninator

Possibly and after dealing with Therrien for two years, he may want to leave.

Again, the draft is not tomorrow. The roster will look different by then. You have zero idea what they're losing right now. Zero.
- hereticpride

You're right, we don't. But the idea that we can't look at it and see that the Flyers will lose a good player is false.

Still think Ghost is traded and they go 7-3-1.
- FlyerFan16

That's not really a good option either

I don't understand what took so long to get the Hayes deal done. Fletcher pretty much said whatever you want, take it.
- FlyerFan16

Yeah really. Given all that Hayes got he and his agent probably could have said this day 1 and Fletcher would have said "ok".

You're right, we don't. But the idea that we can't look at it and see that the Flyers will lose a good player is false.
- MJL

How about keeping focused on the present where we now have an improved roster?

No. G should be a flyer for life if he so chooses
- bulet13

no that's loser mentality

How about keeping focused on the present where we now have an improved roster?
- Sinisalo4vr

My bad, didn't know we weren't allowed to be concerned about the future.

How about keeping focused on the present where we now have an improved roster?
- Sinisalo4vr

Is it a fair assumption to say we're mad at Hayes the contract vs Hayes the player?

I mean he has played 0 games for the Flyers. If he comes in and does what he's supposed to do, does that soften the blow of this egregious contract?

I backed Fletcher earlier. I can not anymore. The contract without a NMC is fine. With it it's terrible. Ghost or one of TK, Linblom, or NoPa are gone
- bulet13

Wow I did too. Hayes really bent the flyers over. He capitulated to nothing. That is an embarrassing deal. The NMC in place through the expansion draft lol

Is it a fair assumption to say we're mad at Hayes the contract vs Hayes the player?

I mean he has played 0 games for the Flyers. If he comes in and does what he's supposed to do, does that soften the blow of this egregious contract?
- Pelle31Forever

Absolutely.

This will be the worst contract of the summer bar none

That is an embarrassment. Period.

This will be the worst contract of the summer bar none

That is an embarrassment. Period.
- Just5

Toronto: hold my beer

Is it a fair assumption to say we're mad at Hayes the contract vs Hayes the player?

I mean he has played 0 games for the Flyers. If he comes in and does what he's supposed to do, does that soften the blow of this egregious contract?
- Pelle31Forever

I really like Hayes the player. As a fan, I think that the Flyers are going to be a better team and they should be a more enjoyable team to watch. So that's positive. Can't overlook other issues though.