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Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Jun 19 @ 5:52 PM ET

- 2Real
More histrionics but enjoy yourselves.
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Jun 19 @ 5:54 PM ET
This will be the worst contract of the summer bar none

That is an embarrassment. Period.

- Just5

Wait til Duchene's contract is announced or Panarin's for that matter. The market has changed. No more bridge contracts, pay the kids immediately everyone and their grandmothers get NMCs.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 19 @ 5:55 PM ET
I know you're all freaking out right now but on a lighter note, when was the last time the Flyers had this many Americans on the roster?
carcus
St Louis Blues
Location: #Winnington
Joined: 02.12.2009

Jun 19 @ 6:02 PM ET
I don't understand the need to pay a 45-55 point player 7+M per year for 7 years.
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Jun 19 @ 6:03 PM ET
Anyone see or hear about Raffl being traded for Alex Tuch? Could have been my friend busting my balls but Fletch is on a roll... couldn't rule it out...
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 19 @ 6:05 PM ET
Anyone see or hear about Raffl being traded for Alex Tuch? Could have been my friend busting my balls but Fletch is on a roll... couldn't rule it out...
- cdearth23

They just extended Raffl. Not likely.
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Jun 19 @ 6:06 PM ET
I don't understand the need to pay a 45-55 point player 7+M per year for 7 years.
- carcus


It's steep and we are taking hits from all fanbases right now. My only retort is who did Hayes play with in NY and Winnipeg? I can't imagine he had talented wingers like JvR and Jake. I could see him close to 65-70 pts with those two (2nd line ish minutes) for majority of season.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 19 @ 6:07 PM ET
Anyone see or hear about Raffl being traded for Alex Tuch? Could have been my friend busting my balls but Fletch is on a roll... couldn't rule it out...
- cdearth23


I like your friend
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 19 @ 6:08 PM ET
I don't understand the need to pay a 45-55 point player 7+M per year for 7 years.
- carcus


I defended it up until I learned there’s an NMC through expansion draft. Utter desperation on the flyers part
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Jun 19 @ 6:08 PM ET
I like your friend
- Just5


It didn't make sense to me but it was one of those "official" trade photos from Twitter. Took a lot of time and care. That wiener.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 19 @ 6:10 PM ET
I defended it up until I learned there’s an NMC through expansion draft. Utter desperation on the flyers part
- Just5


Desperate to return to the glory of first round playoff exits.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jun 19 @ 6:19 PM ET

So watching the draft on Friday...

Cue the music...

Should I pop popcorn or go straight to shots?

-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jun 19 @ 6:20 PM ET
What are the chances the he is the GM in Seattle making the selection???
- aightwebang17


coming in hot
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 19 @ 6:21 PM ET
Anyone see or hear about Raffl being traded for Alex Tuch? Could have been my friend busting my balls but Fletch is on a roll... couldn't rule it out...
- cdearth23


Well we can't really afford him
Bayareaflyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.10.2008

Jun 19 @ 6:24 PM ET
Chucky wants even more Americans

Zucker for Voracek
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jun 19 @ 6:24 PM ET
Anyone see or hear about Raffl being traded for Alex Tuch? Could have been my friend busting my balls but Fletch is on a roll... couldn't rule it out...
- cdearth23



Why the (frank) would Vegas do that?
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Jun 19 @ 6:24 PM ET
It’s June 2019 and talking about an expansion draft 3 years away. This is what the flyers organization has become. Not about winning
- daryl stanley


Pretty much....we went from firing the coach and GM during the season to talking about what they’d do at the draft/offseason to now which person we’d lose at a distant expansion draft with players who may or may not be on the team at that time. This is a neurotic message board today.
BenderRodriguez
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Norristown, PA
Joined: 01.19.2011

Jun 19 @ 7:06 PM ET
Wait til Duchene's contract is announced or Panarin's for that matter. The market has changed. No more bridge contracts, pay the kids immediately everyone and their grandmothers get NMCs.
- Sinisalo4vr


Couldn't this type of contract support bridge deals? Why would young start players want to eat into their UFA years when contracts like this are being handed out?
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Jun 19 @ 7:08 PM ET
If I’m any other GM in the league I am licking my chops right now and getting Fletcher on the phone.
FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Jun 19 @ 7:13 PM ET
Is it a fair assumption to say we're mad at Hayes the contract vs Hayes the player?

I mean he has played 0 games for the Flyers. If he comes in and does what he's supposed to do, does that soften the blow of this egregious contract?

- Pelle31Forever

Yes it is. I am looking forward to next year. This team should be much improved.

I will say, if this team struggles early, say like a 10-11-2 record, it's not going to be pretty in here.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 19 @ 7:23 PM ET
Why the (frank) would Vegas do that?
- BINGO!


They're already over the projected 83M Upper Limit.
FlyersInVA
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cautiously Optimistic, VA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Jun 19 @ 7:23 PM ET
This will be the worst contract of the summer bar none

That is an embarrassment. Period.

- Just5


How about Erik Karlsson with 8x$11.5 at age 29 with a full NMC and a lot of mileage? He is a better player by far than Hayes, but you don’t think they are going to regret that $11.5 million in 4 or 5 years?

I’m pretty much strictly a reader here, but I had to comment because of all of the gnashing of teeth in general here over 2 draft picks this year (2 and 5) and one next for players that will hopefully steady the ship a bit this season and get our youth pointed in the right direction.

These are exactly the type of pieces people in here have been clamoring for, a #2 center and a top four veteran defenseman. Yes, we have an additional steady defenseman added, but Hägg and Morin are not certainties and Braun will likely come in handy.

I don’t necessarily like the NMC but he was going to get that from somebody. We haven’t traded away any of our youth, we still have a lot of draft picks, and the draft picks a we traded would have been a roll of the dice. We look like we will be a better team, and our future still looks bright, so what is the real problem here?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 19 @ 7:24 PM ET
Pretty much....we went from firing the coach and GM during the season to talking about what they’d do at the draft/offseason to now which person we’d lose at a distant expansion draft with players who may or may not be on the team at that time. This is a neurotic message board today.
- Sublime55


It's the off season. Plenty of things to talk about. How the Hayes signing affects the Flyers long term is relevant conversation. Including how the NMC affects the expansion draft protected list. Nothing neurotic about it.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 19 @ 7:25 PM ET
Giving Hayes a NMC is gross mismanagement.
- MJL


Chuck Fletcher... I'm at a loss for words really.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 19 @ 7:29 PM ET
I backed Fletcher earlier. I can not anymore. The contract without a NMC is fine. With it it's terrible. Ghost or one of TK, Linblom, or NoPa are gone
- bulet13


I'm genuinely starting to believe that he learned nothing from his time w/ the Wild.

He's gonna trade Ghost in a Burns/Leddy kind of deal. It's practically inevitable.
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