I don't understand what took so long to get the Hayes deal done. Fletcher pretty much said whatever you want, take it.
- FlyerFan16

This is a neurotic message board every day
- Sublime55

FTFY

I'm genuinely starting to believe that he learned nothing from his time w/ the Wild.

He's gonna trade Ghost in a Burns/Leddy kind of deal. It's practically inevitable.
- Tomahawk

I don’t remember the specifics of the Burns deal... what were they again?

There is the possibility we do a two for one trade and get right back to where we were in terms of the expansion draft.

There is the possibility we do a two for one trade and get right back to where we were in terms of the expansion draft.
- hereticpride

We'll definitely be winning that trade.

There is the possibility we do a two for one trade and get right back to where we were in terms of the expansion draft.
- hereticpride

Not worried about it even a little bit, tbh

I don’t remember the specifics of the Burns deal... what were they again?
- Flyers1218

Burns + 2nd for Setoguchi, Coyle and a late 1st.

I don’t remember the specifics of the Burns deal... what were they again?
- Flyers1218

Charlie Coyle
Devin Setoguchi
2011 1st round pick (#28-Zack Phillips)

We'll definitely be winning that trade.
- MJL

With all due respect you have absolutely no idea.

Not worried about it even a little bit, tbh
- AllInForFlyers

Same. It's seemed to ruin everyone else's day though

So jack Johnson for Kevin Hayes or

With all due respect you have absolutely no idea.
- hereticpride

What we have to look at is history. Teams will know the Flyers are in a bind. Other GM's may not be as kind as Fletcher. Do you know what Fletcher traded to Vegas in the expansion draft?

What we have to look at is history. Teams will know the Flyers are in a bind. Other GM's may not be as kind as Fletcher. Do you know what Fletcher traded to Vegas in the expansion draft?
- MJL

Again the draft isn't tomorrow. There is no pressing "bind" that needs to be resolved right now.

The board has been pretty good today -- some of us disagree, and that's fine.

But this is better than last year, where damn near everybody knew we needed a 2C, another goalie and another defenseman, got nothing, and wound up enduring one of the most soul-crushing seasons I have witnessed

I mean, my goodness. Hakstol fired. Hextall fired. Chris Pryor relieved of his duties.

I think these moves are fine. Others disagree. The Flyers are a better team than they were, and we'll see what the future holds

Same. It's seemed to ruin everyone else's day though
- hereticpride

Well, they can't all be Boyd Gordon and Dale Weise

Again the draft isn't tomorrow. There is no pressing "bind" that needs to be resolved right now.
- hereticpride

That doesn't make much sense. Obviously we're looking at the future and the possible future ramifications of the Hayes deal.

Again, do you know what the Wild gave up and for what to Vegas in the time of the expansion draft in 2017?

Guys settle down the NTC doesnt matter. Just like the Vegas expansion draft the teams can send them a draft pick to not take certain players. There is no reason to worry about the draft.

That doesn't make much sense. Obviously were looking at the future and the possible future ramifications of the Hayes deal.

Again, do you know what the Wild gave up and for what to Vegas in the time of the expansion draft in 2017?
- MJL

What the Wild gave up makes no difference. Different roster with countless different variables. Same GM. So what.

Your initial response was stupid and I have no interest in talking in circles with you.

Guys settle down the NTC doesnt matter. Just like the Vegas expansion draft the teams can send them a draft pick to not take certain players. There is no reason to worry about the draft.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Hell, some guys will want to go -- didn't Fleury have to waive to go to Vegas?

I understand that no one like NMCs, but some guys waive them when they want to change their situations, too

What the Wild gave up makes no difference. Different roster with countless different variables. Same GM. So what.

Your initial response was stupid and I have no interest in talking in circles with you.
- hereticpride

Sure it does because history gives us an idea of what assets cost in the NHL. Same way we look at contracts of similar players to know what it might cost to sign a player. You stating that my initial response was stupid is just ignorance on your part. It's not talking circles, it's looking at the facts that we know.

Guys settle down the NTC doesnt matter. Just like the Vegas expansion draft the teams can send them a draft pick to not take certain players. There is no reason to worry about the draft.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

It's a NMC clause in the years that the expansion draft falls and it matters a great deal.

It's the off season. Plenty of things to talk about. How the Hayes signing affects the Flyers long term is relevant conversation. Including how the NMC affects the expansion draft protected list. Nothing neurotic about it.
- MJL

Talking (and getting worked up) about who will hypothetically be unprotected in an expansion draft several years away with many unforeseen circumstances yet to develop, seems pretty unnecessary, but to each their own.

Sure it does because history gives us an idea of what assets cost in the NHL. Same way we look at contracts of similar players to know what it might cost to sign a player. You stating that my initial response was stupid is just ignorance on your part. It's not talking circles, it's looking at the facts that we know.
- MJL

It was stupid. Do I need to go pull a two for one trade to show you that you have no idea what you're talking about??? You're clearly upset over the moves but you're not this dumb.

Talking (and getting worked up) about who will hypothetically be unprotected in an expansion draft several years away with many unforeseen circumstances yet to develop, seems pretty unnecessary, but to each their own.
- Sublime55

It's called planning ahead. Something that Chuck Fletcher doesn't seem to take seriously.

Talking (and getting worked up) about who will hypothetically be unprotected in an expansion draft several years away with many unforeseen circumstances yet to develop, seems pretty unnecessary, but to each their own.
- Sublime55

:100% correct.