THIS is what 45 points per year gets you???? Over $7M per season, for SEVEN years??

Good god this contract is making my eyes bleed

This is going to be the biggest anchor in league history, three years from now

THIS is what 45 points per year gets you???? Over $7M per season, for SEVEN years??

Good god this contract is making my eyes bleed

This is going to be the biggest anchor in league history, three years from now
- AxlRose91

Coots scores 42 points a year over his career

they should have kept Sheen as 2c.
Wouldn't have cost a thing and they would be further ahead than with Hayes.

I think he's gonna end up like Vinny, legs go out at 32-33, everything goes along with it.
- Tomahawk

Is that possible? Sure.

But today, you could move that deal. You absolutely could

30 teams dont win the cup every year. Its always a long shot. Look at how stacked Tampa is and they got bounced 1st round
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

I was referring to bills comment of good be like homer era and rambling about ecf cup finals blah blah blah. Always the same narrative with this team. Hexys approach was right. This was always a 10 year rebuild whether these dumb flyer fans want to realize it or not. When a team has absolutely zero top prospects and extreme cap problems it takes minimum of 5-7 years to fix those issues. And another 3 years or so to turn over a roster ala la Kings. Not to mention you don’t win a cup without a goalie. 5 years after and hexy has his goalie. Debatable whether he should’ve been called up at 20 years old. Either way Hart’s gonna need a few years experience to be ready for cup run. Fletcher gonna piss all Hextall work down the drain. Hayes Braun giving away picks. Horrible fa contracts. Typical flyers

What did Kyle Turris get 6x6 last year? I believe he is 3 years older than Hayes. I believe Hayes is a better all round player .
Don’t like the term but it is seems to be the going rate .

I think he's gonna end up like Vinny, legs go out at 32-33, everything goes along with it.
- Tomahawk

Don’t ever say that again. He was a weird one. Could not believe the decline. It was like a (frank)ing magic trick. Put on a flyers jersey and POOF! Turned into a turd

THIS is what 45 points per year gets you???? Over $7M per season, for SEVEN years??

Good god this contract is making my eyes bleed

This is going to be the biggest anchor in league history, three years from now
- AxlRose91

It's not 45 points a season. If you average it out over 82 games per.

they should have kept Sheen as 2c.
Wouldn't have cost a thing and they would be further ahead than with Hayes.
- tocchettough

Charlie or Martin? If it's Charlie him and Lehtera would've been perfect together

It's not 45 points a season. If you average it out over 82 games per.
- PLindbergh31

Coots averages 42 pts a season over his career. Why are you ignoring this?

You won't even have the balls to respond to this because it completely shatters your narrative

threw in Simmonds to represent any possible USA signing.

FORWARDS (13)
Right wing: Jakub Voracek ($8,250,000) - Travis Konecny ($4,500,000) - Wayne Simmonds ($2,000,000) - Ryan Hartman ($2,000,000)
Centre: Sean Couturier ($4,333,333) - Kevin Hayes ($7,142,857) - Nolan Patrick ($925,000) - Scott Laughton ($1,500,000) - Nicolas Aubé-Kubel ($900,000)
Left wing: Claude Giroux ($8,275,000) - James van Riemsdyk ($7,000,000) - Oskar Lindblom ($925,000) - Michael Raffl ($1,600,000)

DEFENSE (7)
Right: Matt Niskanen ($5,750,000) - Justin Braun ($3,800,000) - Philippe Myers ($678,889)
Left: Ivan Provorov ($7,000,000) - Travis Sanheim ($4,500,000) - Shayne Gostisbehere ($4,500,000) - Samuel Morin ($700,000)

GOALTENDER (2)
Carter Hart ($730,833) - Cam Talbot ($2,500,000)

AHL BURIED (1)

David Schlemko ($1,025,000)

BUYOUTS (2)
Andrew MacDonald ($1,166,667) - Ilya Bryzgalov ($0)

RETAINED SALARY TRANSACTIONS (1)
Radko Gudas ($1,005,000)

DETAILS
Roster Size: 22
Salary Cap: $83,000,000
Cap Hit: $82,707,579
Cap Space: $292,421

Coots scores 42 points a year over his career
- bulet13

Lol.

Last time I checked Philly wasn't that far from water.
Well if that is the case the Rangers aren't on his list right?
- PLindbergh31

Let me guess....just jump in a car and be in the ocean in an hour, right...amirite?

Lol.
- Just5

Hayes should be our 1c since he averages 3 more pts a season than Coots!

#clownlogic

threw in Simmonds to represent any possible USA signing.

FORWARDS (13)
Right wing: Jakub Voracek ($8,250,000) - Travis Konecny ($4,500,000) - Wayne Simmonds ($2,000,000) - Ryan Hartman ($2,000,000)
Centre: Sean Couturier ($4,333,333) - Kevin Hayes ($7,142,857) - Nolan Patrick ($925,000) - Scott Laughton ($1,500,000) - Nicolas Aubé-Kubel ($900,000)
Left wing: Claude Giroux ($8,275,000) - James van Riemsdyk ($7,000,000) - Oskar Lindblom ($925,000) - Michael Raffl ($1,600,000)

DEFENSE (7)
Right: Matt Niskanen ($5,750,000) - Justin Braun ($3,800,000) - Philippe Myers ($678,889)
Left: Ivan Provorov ($7,000,000) - Travis Sanheim ($4,500,000) - Shayne Gostisbehere ($4,500,000) - Samuel Morin ($700,000)

GOALTENDER (2)
Carter Hart ($730,833) - Cam Talbot ($2,500,000)

AHL BURIED (1)

David Schlemko ($1,025,000)

BUYOUTS (2)
Andrew MacDonald ($1,166,667) - Ilya Bryzgalov ($0)

RETAINED SALARY TRANSACTIONS (1)
Radko Gudas ($1,005,000)

DETAILS
Roster Size: 22
Salary Cap: $83,000,000
Cap Hit: $82,707,579
Cap Space: $292,421
- youarewrong

That is pretty darned ugly.

I’m calling my shot now. Worst pick this year round one... philly Seider 11 th pick.

How we doing today flyers fans ?
- daryl stanley

pretty fan-(frank)ing-tastic. you?

threw in Simmonds to represent any possible USA signing.

FORWARDS (13)
Right wing: Jakub Voracek ($8,250,000) - Travis Konecny ($4,500,000) - Wayne Simmonds ($2,000,000) - Ryan Hartman ($2,000,000)
Centre: Sean Couturier ($4,333,333) - Kevin Hayes ($7,142,857) - Nolan Patrick ($925,000) - Scott Laughton ($1,500,000) - Nicolas Aubé-Kubel ($900,000)
Left wing: Claude Giroux ($8,275,000) - James van Riemsdyk ($7,000,000) - Oskar Lindblom ($925,000) - Michael Raffl ($1,600,000)

DEFENSE (7)
Right: Matt Niskanen ($5,750,000) - Justin Braun ($3,800,000) - Philippe Myers ($678,889)
Left: Ivan Provorov ($7,000,000) - Travis Sanheim ($4,500,000) - Shayne Gostisbehere ($4,500,000) - Samuel Morin ($700,000)

GOALTENDER (2)
Carter Hart ($730,833) - Cam Talbot ($2,500,000)

AHL BURIED (1)

David Schlemko ($1,025,000)

BUYOUTS (2)
Andrew MacDonald ($1,166,667) - Ilya Bryzgalov ($0)

RETAINED SALARY TRANSACTIONS (1)
Radko Gudas ($1,005,000)

DETAILS
Roster Size: 22
Salary Cap: $83,000,000
Cap Hit: $82,707,579
Cap Space: $292,421
- youarewrong

Why are we paying Wayne Simmonds $2M to play on our 4th line?

Why are we paying Wayne Simmonds $2M to play on our 4th line?
- jmatchett383

STay away from Simmonds. He's this summer's Lucic. 30 and breaking down. Guys who play that style don't last.

That is pretty darned ugly.
- MBFlyerfan

Gets them into compliance, tho. Could work. Don’t pay 3RW 2 million and it feels better

STay away from Simmonds. He's this summer's Lucic. 30 and breaking down. Guys who play that style don't last.
- RogerRoeper

I hope Toronto signs Simmonds

STay away from Simmonds. He's this summer's Lucic. 30 and breaking down. Guys who play that style don't last.
- RogerRoeper

Well he "threw in Simmonds" to be any UFA signing.

Right now, our top-6 is set. If we don't fill that 3rd/4th line hole internally, it should be way less than $2M.

Well he "threw in Simmonds" to be any UFA signing.

Right now, our top-6 is set. If we don't fill that 3rd/4th line hole internally, it should be way less than $2M.
- jmatchett383

Yep. You take this if you get Provorov extended at 7 per

Totally agree this contract is nonsense
Like Hayes as a player and could swallow the overpay
But the 7 years term are shear madness
- goenzoy

All the big contracts this offseason are 6 years plus. Players want the long term guaranteed money and teams can budget long term while locking in salaries at current market value knowing that the likelihood of player salaries and the cap going up are high.

I was ok with the Niskanen deal, not thrilled.

The Braun deal was upsetting, you don't give up a 2nd and a 3rd for a defensive d-man with 1 year left on his deal.

Overpaying for Hayes is fine. The roster needed an upgrade, 2C probably being the most glaring hole and the ripple effect makes us more dangerous down the roster.

It's not the current cap situation I'm worried about. The way the roster is being framed these are going to be the guys to steer the ship for 2 years and some mobility will be at hand afterwards (Gudas and AMac $ gone, Nisky and Braun potentially gone) and Fletcher will probably look at offing high cap hits if things don't go according to plan. The question is more do you think this roster can win as opposed to what does this mean for the current cap. These actions are a commitment to the current roster as constructed.

What bothers me is the 2nd and 3rd round picks gone. To sustain winning you need an infusion of competent players on ELC's. These picks should be held in more high esteem.