Jan I'm down to pick for Dallas

Jan I'm down to pick for Dallas
- KreiderBomb

Vin I sent you another PM

Jan I'm down to pick for Dallas
- KreiderBomb

Thanks, just sent you a PM

Also, Korpedo
- Fenrir

I was always partial to Laurie Kupacoffee.

I agree on Staal too. He's not horrible, and on most nights he is fine on D. His leadership will be needed, and he can take some nights off throughout his last season for NYR.

Try to trade Shatty and retain some $$.

Try to trade Smith and retain some $$ as well.

Would love to see Gorton move those two w/out buying out any contracts

- rrentz

Ideally this is a good plan. The problem is, that if you want to give Trouba and Panarin contracts, you need the cap space right now. You really can't afford to wait. As of right now, the team has 19 million in cap space for Trouba, (potentially) Panarin, Buch, ADA, and Lemeuix. If you want all these guys, you have to clear cap space yesterday. Smith buying out takes us to 22 million and then we still probably have to clear out 2-3 million.

Hopefully we can trade Stinky at the draft for a song.

I am probably alone here, but I don't actually want Staal going anywhere.
Shatty is hard to move on from (even aside from his contract) because he represents a swing and miss. He has never been what we hoped and there's that underlying "maybe he'll figure it out." element, for some at least. But, with what is in the cupboard it's time to move along.
Smith was another swing and miss, but when we consider the best option is to plant him firmly in the way of prospects and overpay him for 4th line duty and 7 minutes a night, ba-bye.
Staal, on the other hand, improved his play last season. He is not what he was once upon a time, but he is a consummate professional, a great teammate, a locker room leader, a PK demon and steadying influence for the incoming young corps.
Still overpaying for what you get, yes, but we can't buyout every guy that ages and has his play drop off. It's simply not feasible.
- Tonybere

Overpaying, yes, but like you said, wasn't terrible. Kinda think that after the season last year Staal might have done a self assessment and realized he is aging and had to change his game some to compensate. Also like the leadership. Smith is an expensive 4th liner that can pinch in on D that should be tradeable if we keep some dough. Can only hope Shat figures it out this season.
After this season all 3 are in the way of promoting the kids, if they are ready.

I was always partial to Laurie Kupacoffee.
- Tonybere

Forgot that one.

Would you do this deal?

Turris (Nash retains 2-3 mill a yr) and 24 (I think that’s where they pick)

For

Shatty and 58

Gets us back in rd 1

Ideally this is a good plan. The problem is, that if you want to give Trouba and Panarin contracts, you need the cap space right now. You really can't afford to wait. As of right now, the team has 19 million in cap space for Trouba, (potentially) Panarin, Buch, ADA, and Lemeuix. If you want all these guys, you have to clear cap space yesterday. Smith buying out takes us to 22 million and then we still probably have to clear out 2-3 million.

Hopefully we can trade Stinky at the draft for a song.
- 2sticks1puck

Stinky, Smith and a 2nd for a 7th. Possibly retain $2MM

Pick is in!

Pick is in!
- KreiderBomb

good job

I'd love to shed some salary and get rid of Vesey, Stinky, Staal, Shatty or Smith

Would you do this deal?

Turris (Nash retains 2-3 mill a yr) and 24 (I think that’s where they pick)

For

Shatty and 58

Gets us back in rd 1
- Slimtj100

Way too many years on Turris' deal.

Ideally this is a good plan. The problem is, that if you want to give Trouba and Panarin contracts, you need the cap space right now. You really can't afford to wait. As of right now, the team has 19 million in cap space for Trouba, (potentially) Panarin, Buch, ADA, and Lemeuix. If you want all these guys, you have to clear cap space yesterday. Smith buying out takes us to 22 million and then we still probably have to clear out 2-3 million.

Hopefully we can trade Stinky at the draft for a song.
- 2sticks1puck

11 for Panarin
Trouba is on books for 5.5 this year and probably 7.5 on next contract.
Buch 1.5 -1.75 mill
Lemeiux 1.5

Thats about 19 mill.

Trade Stinky -4mill
Trade Vesey -1.7 mill = 5.7 mill added


That gives us plenty of $$ and thats not even taking into acct Staal, Shatty, and Smiths $$ which will come off the books in one way or another this season or next.

Not a bad situation at all...AND Hank is done in 2 years as well

Ideally this is a good plan. The problem is, that if you want to give Trouba and Panarin contracts, you need the cap space right now. You really can't afford to wait. As of right now, the team has 19 million in cap space for Trouba, (potentially) Panarin, Buch, ADA, and Lemeuix. If you want all these guys, you have to clear cap space yesterday. Smith buying out takes us to 22 million and then we still probably have to clear out 2-3 million.

Hopefully we can trade Stinky at the draft for a song.
- 2sticks1puck

Gotta go bargain hunting! Thornton, Simmonds, Hainsey!

Kreider-Zib-Buch
Chytil-Thornton-Simmonds
Lemeiux-Howden-Strome
Andersson- Nieves-Fast

Skjei-Trouba
Staal-DeAngelo
Hainsey-Shattenkirk
Claesson

Lundqvist
Georgiev

Buyout: Smith

Traded: Vlad and Vesey

Gotta go bargain hunting! Thornton, Simmonds, Hainsey!

Kreider-Zib-Buch
Chytil-Thornton-Simmonds
Lemeiux-Howden-Strome
Andersson- Nieves-Fast

Skjei-Trouba
Staal-DeAngelo
Hainsey-Shattenkirk
Claesson

Lundqvist
Georgiev

Buyout: Smith

Traded: Vlad and Vesey
- tomburton99

No Kakko!!?

Way too many years on Turris' deal.
- Fenrir

I know, but if you get them to retain it’s way less of an issue. I mean he had one terrible year where you said he isn’t worth 4mil. Hes been ok in the playoffs, veteran guy who isn’t 30 yet. Getting rid of Shatty is helpful for many reasons, at least we could use Turris. As long as he can be unprotected for Seattle, I think it’s a decent idea

No Kakko!!?
- rrentz

He's full of Kakko.

He's full of Kakko.
- Tonybere

Haha good one tones

He's full of Kakko.
- Tonybere

You just can't see Tom's Kakko, it's really small

You just can't see Tom's Kakko, it's really small
- eichiefs9

Like a baby box turtle.

I know, but if you get them to retain it’s way less of an issue. I mean he had one terrible year where you said he isn’t worth 4mil. Hes been ok in the playoffs, veteran guy who isn’t 30 yet. Getting rid of Shatty is helpful for many reasons, at least we could use Turris. As long as he can be unprotected for Seattle, I think it’s a decent idea
- Slimtj100

Is he? I can see Seattle picking him.

Like a baby box turtle.
- tomburton99

Helped a Box turtle cross the road the other day.

Helped a Box turtle cross the road the other day.
- Fenrir

My gf's dog ate a box turtle one year

11 for Panarin
Trouba is on books for 5.5 this year and probably 7.5 on next contract.
Buch 1.5 -1.75 mill
Lemeiux 1.5

Thats about 19 mill.

Trade Stinky -4mill
Trade Vesey -1.7 mill = 5.7 mill added


That gives us plenty of $$ and thats not even taking into acct Staal, Shatty, and Smiths $$ which will come off the books in one way or another this season or next.

Not a bad situation at all...AND Hank is done in 2 years as well
- rrentz

Buch is getting 3-4 at a minimum. I believe he will be bridged, but with how he finished last year, he isn't making 4th line money.

I'm not sure what Trouba signs at. If we do the Hayes plan with him and give him 1 year, he's probably going to want in the 6 range. He's a RD and a pretty good one, that alone will get him more money. I also don't think the team traded for him with the intention of only giving him a 1 yr deal.

We don't have the time to wait until all this comes off the books. If you are signing Panarin, you need the cap space July 1st. You can wait on some of the guys in RFA, but that might not be the best look to wait too long.