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EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Jun 19 @ 3:19 PM ET
Perry is low risk / high reward. Seems more than reasonable.
- RedRevenge


Just imagine Perry taking bonehead penalties with the Hawks PK.
L_B_R
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.23.2014

Jun 19 @ 3:23 PM ET
If anyone wants to read an excellent breakdown of shooting, playmaking, and transition with micro stats and video support of Cozens, Dach, and Krebs - it can be found here:

https://www.eprinkside.co...s-kirby-dach-peyton-krebs

Article will only be free for an hour and then goes back behind a paywall.
Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

Jun 19 @ 3:26 PM ET
Perry is low risk / high reward. Seems more than reasonable.
- RedRevenge


There’s a reason the Ducks bought him out with only two years left on his contract. Since his knee injury, he can’t play at the speed of the NHL. I’d say Kessler is in the same boat with his hip problems.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jun 19 @ 3:28 PM ET
Just imagine Perry taking bonehead penalties with the Hawks PK.
- EbonyRaptor

Beat me to it. And he has a penchant of taking his penalties at the worst times.
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Jun 19 @ 3:29 PM ET
If Detroit would trade their #6 pick for Boqvist (+?) - would you do it? The Hawks could take Byram with #3 and Zegras with #6. So the question is would you rather have Boqvist or Zegras (or Turcotte/Dach/Cozens - whoever is still on the board at #6)?
stan-ley-cups
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Hawkeytown, IL
Joined: 02.27.2015

Jun 19 @ 3:30 PM ET
Beat me to it. And he has a penchant of taking his penalties at the worst times.
- paulr


yeah and trade for backes while your at it. oh and throw in ryan kessler.
the old dbag line.
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jun 19 @ 3:34 PM ET
Perry is low risk / high reward. Seems more than reasonable.
- RedRevenge



From the Duck's Hockeybuzz blogger...


"Perry is coming off his worst season as a professional. He had just 10 points in 31 games in an injury-riddled season. He missed most of the season recovering from a knee injury and when he did get back on the ice he was a shell of his former self.

It was painful to watch both Perry and Ryan Kesler attempt to chug up and down the ice. It became clear that if Anaheim had any real intentions of rebounding from their worst season in recent memory, one or both would have to go. "
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jun 19 @ 3:36 PM ET
A Perry deal is exactly what Stan has been doing. Acquire a player that has had a down year. Sign him to a low cost contract and see if he works out. I don't see the hate for him... I mean he's a dirty player, but he knows how to score and he plays MEAN. This is what the Hawks need. If the Hawks can sign him for 1-2M, then they should do it in a heartbeat (see Brad Richards 2015 Champion).
- RedRevenge


Perry has been in a significant downtrend the past 3 seasons, and hasn't hit 20 goals in a season during that time. I would now question his ability to score in addition to after a serious injury and all the miles on him, as to how enthusiastic he would be in the corners
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jun 19 @ 3:41 PM ET
From the Duck's Hockeybuzz blogger...


"Perry is coming off his worst season as a professional. He had just 10 points in 31 games in an injury-riddled season. He missed most of the season recovering from a knee injury and when he did get back on the ice he was a shell of his former self.

It was painful to watch both Perry and Ryan Kesler attempt to chug up and down the ice. It became clear that if Anaheim had any real intentions of rebounding from their worst season in recent memory, one or both would have to go. "

- EnzoD


Tough injury to come back from at any age, actually surprised he came back last season at all. Might have been smarter to just rehabilitate.

Ducks rightwinger Corey Perry will be out for the first five months of the NHL season after undergoing surgery to repair meniscus and MCL injuries in his right knee, the team announced Wednesday.
scottak
Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley!
Joined: 08.06.2010

Jun 19 @ 3:41 PM ET
Hawks shed salary by trading Murphy for picks.

Hawks draft Bowen Byram, and Byram makes the team out of camp.

Keith Gus (Gus is traded in 2020 and Boqvist replaces him).
Maatta Joki (ELC)
Byram (ELC) Seabs
KoekKoek

Hawks sign Panarin, 11 mil per year.

Saad Toews Sikura (resigned for a mil)
Panarin AA Kane
Cat Strome Perlini (resigned for a mil)
Kubalik (ELC) Kampf (resigned for a mil) Caggiula
Wedin (ELC)

Crawford (contract comes off books in 2020 or signs short term deal?)
Lankinen (ELC) (beats out Delia in camp)

Cap space of about $5,061,539 going into the 2019-20 season, without factoring in the official cap increase.

Nalimov is brought over and splits time with Delia in Rockford. Forsberg packaged with Forsling or Dalhtsrom for a bottom six depth player or picks.

- SoftServe

I assume this becomes your 3rd ‘checking line’? ‘Cause they’re not going to score many goals.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jun 19 @ 3:42 PM ET
yeah and trade for backes while your at it. oh and throw in ryan kessler.
the old dbag line.

- stan-ley-cups

Add Bieksa and it's a done deal
GPHawksfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: AB
Joined: 01.26.2018

Jun 19 @ 3:43 PM ET
The NHL is still figuring out the salary cap. I read that it won’t be announced till Saturday. Seriously how hard is it to come up with a number. Also, it apparently is going to less then 82 mil. Haha Bettman is such a douche.
- gifman

Bettman doesn't just make up a number in his head for the salary cap you d!ckhead
L_B_R
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.23.2014

Jun 19 @ 3:44 PM ET
If Detroit would trade their #6 pick for Boqvist (+?) - would you do it? The Hawks could take Byram with #3 and Zegras with #6. So the question is would you rather have Boqvist or Zegras (or Turcotte/Dach/Cozens - whoever is still on the board at #6)?
- EbonyRaptor

I doubt Detroit would do this but honestly I would. I love Boqvist and think he is going to be a top pairing d-man, but if you can get one of those + a potential top line forward, you should do it.

That won't happen though.
PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

Jun 19 @ 3:44 PM ET
JC better keep Kane with Toews so Toews doesnt regress

If the only way to get the max play out of JT is 88...then it would be foolish to split them at this juncture
BGKarras
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 19 @ 3:55 PM ET
bathroom??...how the hell did ya run into him...
- bogiedoc

You would be surprised I have seen and spoken to many of Celebrities, Athletes, and Politicians at ORD. Heck a couple of years ago I had a nice conversation with Ulf Samuelson before he was hired.
Lido_Shuffle
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.10.2012

Jun 19 @ 3:58 PM ET
If anyone wants to read an excellent breakdown of shooting, playmaking, and transition with micro stats and video support of Cozens, Dach, and Krebs - it can be found here:

https://www.eprinkside.co...s-kirby-dach-peyton-krebs

Article will only be free for an hour and then goes back behind a paywall.

- L_B_R



Thanks, the article makes a strong case for Krebs.
gifman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Gifland
Joined: 09.17.2015

Jun 19 @ 4:02 PM ET
yeah and trade for backes while your at it. oh and throw in ryan kessler.
the old dbag line.

- stan-ley-cups


Kesslers contract plus productivity =

8 points last year for 5 mil. Ouch
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 19 @ 4:05 PM ET
Did Stan consult on this deal?

Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
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9m
Breakdown of Kevin Hayes' $50M, seven-year deal with #flyers:
$5M signing bonus+$4M salary
$3.75M SB+$3.75M
$9M
$3.75M SB+$3.75M
$6.5M
$1.25M SB+$4M
$1.25M SB+$4M


Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
The deal includes a no-movement clause for the first three years, then a 12-team no-trade for the remainder of term, as reported by
@PuckPedia
Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL
Joined: 07.27.2009

Jun 19 @ 4:08 PM ET
JC better keep Kane with Toews so Toews doesnt regress

If the only way to get the max play out of JT is 88...then it would be foolish to split them at this juncture

- PatShart


Agreed.

And would be even better to find a smashmouth power forward to play LW with them both.
Popsghostly
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 08.11.2017

Jun 19 @ 4:08 PM ET
Kesslers contract plus productivity =

8 points last year for 5 mil. Ouch

- gifman


Not sure how the 4 Hawk's D could have survived the pounding in the 15 WCF.

Seriously, that Ducks team was 1 game from the Stanley Cup Final.

How 4 years can change the world.
Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL
Joined: 07.27.2009

Jun 19 @ 4:09 PM ET
Not sure how the 4 Hawk's D could have survived the pounding in the 15 WCF.

Seriously, that Ducks team was 1 game from the Stanley Cup Final.

How 4 years can change the world.

- Popsghostly


Freddie Anderson was/is not a playoff goalie. That was the difference in that series.
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Jun 19 @ 4:10 PM ET
I doubt Detroit would do this but honestly I would. I love Boqvist and think he is going to be a top pairing d-man, but if you can get one of those + a potential top line forward, you should do it.

That won't happen though.

- L_B_R


Probably not but many thought Detroit was going to take a d-man last draft (probably Q.Hughes) before Zadina fell into their lap. Boqvist now has a year of N.A. experience where he played up to his potential and he won't turn 19 for another 2 months. If he was born 30 days later he would be in the 2019 draft.
PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

Jun 19 @ 4:13 PM ET
Agreed.

And would be even better to find a smashmouth power forward to play LW with them both.

- Return of the Roar


Anders Lee or Micharl Ferland
Abadseed
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Arlington hts, IL
Joined: 01.20.2014

Jun 19 @ 4:33 PM ET
If Detroit would trade their #6 pick for Boqvist (+?) - would you do it? The Hawks could take Byram with #3 and Zegras with #6. So the question is would you rather have Boqvist or Zegras (or Turcotte/Dach/Cozens - whoever is still on the board at #6)?
- EbonyRaptor


I wouldn’t do this trade with anything other than Boqvist. But only I feel they’ve truly changed there mind on Boqvist since the draft, No one really knows how these players will pan out but they’ve had him (Boqvist) a year now we’re getting two new players to start the clock over with. I would either draft Byram and see how all the defensive prospects turn out or pick the forward yourate the highest not not leave the forward to chance.
TommyHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jun 19 @ 4:41 PM ET
Work is slow right now and I'm going out of town tomorrow, so I went home around lunch time to finish up watching the five players in consideration.

I am firmly - read: FIRMLY - on the Bowen Byram express. In fact, I am the train conductor on this ride. I will be utterly disappointed if he is not the pick. He simply has the highest upside of any player at 3, and simply taking another player due to need (read: Turcotte, Dach) is doing a disservice. I trust that Stan and Co. reinforce their belief in "having a core player for the next 15 years" and do the right thing in drafting Byram. There's a reason no one else would trade up for anyone else but him.

My pick if going with a forward is Zegras. If you're not taking the best d-man in the draft (and likely your team's #1 new prospect), you take the player with the most skill, regardless of where they are slotted. I don't care if Zegras is mocked anywhere from 5-9. No one will remember him being picked at 3 anyways if he ends up becoming the player that he can be. Zero doubt in my mind he is a perennial NHL all-star.

If neither of these guys are picked, then it's a coin-flip for me in regards to Dach/Cozens/Turcotte. To me, all three players are virtually tied. I didn't see enough out of them to differentiate one another. They are all more or less equal to me. I trust Mark Kelley if that's the route they choose to go.

Either way, tired of speculating. Friday can't come soon enough.
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