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mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.14.2015

Jun 20 @ 2:24 PM ET
So based on rumors and inside information the Sabres are in on:

PK / tolvanen
Kessel
Toffoli
Zucker
Vesey

Hopefully one of these pans out tonight or tomorrow before the draft.

- Sabretooth9


PK/Tolvanen for 31 I wonder if that gets it done
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 20 @ 2:25 PM ET
If we take on all of the Subban contract Botterill wants him also.
- SABRES 89


That seems kind of odd - it isn't like PK has 6 years left. He seems reasonably priced for term and quality of player - not sure why it would need to be sweetened.
SABRES 89
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Jun 20 @ 2:25 PM ET
I still say we need a goalie.
SABRES 89
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Jun 20 @ 2:26 PM ET
That seems kind of odd - it isn't like PK has 6 years left. He seems reasonably priced for term and quality of player - not sure why it would need to be sweetened.
- Slump Buster

3 yrs 9 a year
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 20 @ 2:26 PM ET
Do you really think jbotts has gone "all in" at winning?

I think he wanted dahlin/,tkachuk

- Boss34


still here I see
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jun 20 @ 2:26 PM ET
Jonny Brodzinski also from the Kings also, a call to inquire about Laine.
- SABRES 89



I heard Martin Jones for 2nd time?
Partial cap dump/ upgrade at goalie

Any word on this happening?

Jones was terrible last season, but under contract for 5 more years
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I root for draft picks but not the team, apparently, NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 20 @ 2:27 PM ET
3 yrs 9 a year
- SABRES 89


Right - that isn't bad for a top-grade D
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 20 @ 2:27 PM ET
Something along the lines of he now has a new lease on his playing career and wants to get to training and get ready for next year.
- SABRES 89


well, cool. folks should temper their expectations, but I'd definitely take him here on a low risk contract. He's a style of player we need.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jun 20 @ 2:27 PM ET
I still say we need a goalie.
- SABRES 89


Improve the defense .... the goalies get better. The goalies were often left to dry post winning streak.

Although Hutton was pretty bad after late December and on [url]
Der Kaiser
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Jun 20 @ 2:28 PM ET
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- dadeadhead



MYTH.

Counterpoint - and truth - here.

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washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jun 20 @ 2:28 PM ET
MYTH.

Counterpoint - and truth - here.

https://www.techjunkie.co...v-screen-size-calculator/

- Der Kaiser



So you’re saying size doesn’t matter?

Asking for majority of posters on here...
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 20 @ 2:28 PM ET
I knew that contract was negative value. Not sure what to make of Tolvanen.. B+, A- prospect? I see him developing as a middle 6 forward. We need those. So fine.
- TheSabresTaco


A+. The top prospects rankings last Summer: Dahlin, Svechnikov, Pettersson, Heiskanen, Mitts, Zadina, Tolvanen.

It's a big ask, which makes me think they are no where close to a deal.
TheSabresTaco
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Jun 20 @ 2:29 PM ET
I heard Martin Jones for 2nd time?
Partial cap dump/ upgrade at goalie

Any word on this happening?

Jones was terrible last season, but under contract for 5 more years

- Boss34


mmm I dunno bout any of that.
TheSabresTaco
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Jun 20 @ 2:29 PM ET
Right - that isn't bad for a top-grade D
- Slump Buster


but... he's not. Hence, Nashville wanting to get rid of him and Botterill asking Nashville for one of their best forward prospects.
Boss34
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Jun 20 @ 2:29 PM ET
still here I see
- TheSabresTaco



Hi, nice to be seen.

I noticed we completely disagree on jbotts future.

He has done very little to improve this team.
Mostly working on killing off terrible contracts the past 2 seasons.

Why wouldnt he want to pick top 4 last year or top 10 this year?
Slump Buster
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Jun 20 @ 2:30 PM ET
but... he's not.
- TheSabresTaco


It depends what you consider to be top-grade. He was recently a norris finalist - it isn't like he fell off a cliff
Slump Buster
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Jun 20 @ 2:30 PM ET
but... he's not.
- TheSabresTaco


It depends what you consider to be top-grade. He was recently a norris finalist - it isn't like he fell off a cliff
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jun 20 @ 2:30 PM ET
but... he's not. Hence, Nashville wanting to get rid of him and Botterill asking Nashville for one of their best forward prospects.
- TheSabresTaco



Ok play him 2nd or even 3rd pairing. Still worth acquiring
TheSabresTaco
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Jun 20 @ 2:32 PM ET
Hi, nice to be seen.

I noticed we completely disagree on jbotts future.

He has done very little to improve this team.
Mostly working on killing off terrible contracts the past 2 seasons.

Why wouldnt he want to pick top 4 last year or top 10 this year?

- Boss34


I don't disagree with JBott's future. No one knows it. I disagree with the idea that he lost on purpose. But you know that.

And, obviously, everyone 'wants' Dahlin. Win, lose, and everything in between, 31 teams want him.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 20 @ 2:32 PM ET
A+. The top prospects rankings last Summer: Dahlin, Svechnikov, Pettersson, Heiskanen, Mitts, Zadina, Tolvanen.

It's a big ask, which makes me think they are no where close to a deal.

- Lunaion



Saying Tolvanen is still an A+ prospect is like saying Subban is still a norris caliber d-man.

Both 'awards' were a year ago and both players have declined/not improved in that span. Their on ice value isn't really where it used to be. It has the potential to be a good buy low option, or a terrible overpay.
SABRES 89
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Jun 20 @ 2:32 PM ET
I heard Martin Jones for 2nd time?
Partial cap dump/ upgrade at goalie

Any word on this happening?

Jones was terrible last season, but under contract for 5 more years

- Boss34

No haven't heard that but i'll take it !
TheSabresTaco
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Jun 20 @ 2:33 PM ET
Ok play him 2nd or even 3rd pairing. Still worth acquiring
- washedup20


So we hate Zach Bogosian at 1 year for 5+ million playing 2nd/3rd pair minutes, but are dying for Subban's 9M in the same role?

I love this place.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 20 @ 2:34 PM ET
Saying Tolvanen is still an A+ prospect is like saying Subban is still a norris caliber d-man.

Both 'awards' were a year ago and both players have declined/not improved in that span. Their on ice value isn't really where it used to be. It has the potential to be a good buy low option, or a terrible overpay.

- Sabresfan-365


Don't think that's true, but fine, dial it down a notch and say he's a comparable prospect to Mitts.
SABRES 89
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Jun 20 @ 2:35 PM ET
So we hate Zach Bogosian at 1 year for 5+ million playing 2nd/3rd pair minutes, but are dying for Subban's 9M in the same role?

I love this place.

- TheSabresTaco

It's just in talking stages regarding all the players that were mentioned, he knows the roster has to change but will do it accordingly.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 20 @ 2:36 PM ET
So you’re saying size doesn’t matter?

Asking for majority of posters on here...

- washedup20


Size matters, but it's really only important when you get close enough to the target.
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