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Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 21 @ 4:35 PM ET
If you're going to mess up your cap, that's the kind of player you do it with. A real difference maker. A player that moves the bar significantly.
- MJL

I agree, and the Flyers typically pursue these type of players if they ever hit UFA
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:35 PM ET
I didnt omit it, it is there. IT IS LISTED RIGHT THERE ON CAP FRIENDLY AND INCLUDED IN THE CALCULATIONS

Forget it. I will just act smug next season when Hell doesnt freeze over. Where's a damn paper cutter when you need it!

- xShoot4WarAmpsx



It the post I quoted you absolutely did omit it. Every post you make on the cap situation is not accurate.

Who expect hell to freeze over?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 21 @ 4:35 PM ET
funny I know you are team negative but "these bad moves" actually seem like they are making you happy aka team positive



- wcorvette

My first question is, who are you?

My second question is, is this an insult?
fecondo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wading in the velvet sea, PA
Joined: 03.16.2008

Jun 21 @ 4:36 PM ET
Seider kinda scares me. He could turn out to be the best dman taken in the draft, or could end up being a third-pair dman taken with a lottery pick.

Broberg is very Jonas Brodin. I'm sure Fletcher is intrigued.

- Tomahawk

I can’t lie I’m intrigued by the risk/reward factor with Seider. I feel like there’s enough prospects stocked up, (barring any crazy trade fletch might have up his sleeve) that I’d be okay with the risk involved.
Sorry for the slow reply, at work and on my phone haha
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:37 PM ET
IIRC, a few seasons ago, there was a poster who consistently repeated the mantra of there are no cap problems, just cap management (or something to that effect). I just can't quite remember who that was. Maybe a couple of the long-time members can help out.
- GeorgeBailey




Good effort there George but you came up short here. I've discussed on this very thread when a team should put itself in the position of having to manage around the cap and be up towards the Upper Limit and when a team shouldn't be in that situation. That is the issue with the current team.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:38 PM ET
The worst part of being a cap team again is all the hypothetical cap arguments. My God.
- hereticpride


The cap and how it could affect the team is a major part of the sport now.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jun 21 @ 4:38 PM ET
Lehtera played 27 games for the Flyers last year and he was taken on to make the Schenn deal. Weise played 42. That was a signing that didn't work out.
- MJL



dont have an issue with the trade, they played Lethera to long, after the drug thing it should have been over. Weise is what he is
fecondo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wading in the velvet sea, PA
Joined: 03.16.2008

Jun 21 @ 4:39 PM ET
what do you guys think is the percentage chance that MoFro makes the team?
- Crimsoninja

50/50

Personally, I want him on the team next year.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jun 21 @ 4:40 PM ET
My first question is, who are you?

My second question is, is this an insult?

- SuperSchennBros



only going to answer #2
Nah it wasnt, all is good fun
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:46 PM ET
Report saying VAN is offering Virtanen and 2020 1st round pick to COL for Tyson Barrie.

Any interest in that deal for Ghost?

- cdearth23

yes
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:47 PM ET
Last year: Weise, Lehtera, Knight, Vorobyev, Bailey, Varone, Weal, and NAK combined for 206 out of 246 possible 4th line games.

This year we'll have Raffl, Laughton and Hartman playing that 4th line consistently. That's a huge upgrade. And that only includes having one of Frost/Farabee/Ratcliffe in the lineup at 3RW, plus Patrick on the 3rd line against weaker competition.

On defense, Folin and MacDonald played 73 games. Gudas and Hagg played all but 5. This year we'll have Niskanen, Braun and Myers playing those games, with Hagg/Morin as the extra defenseman instead of Folin/MacDonald. That's a big upgrade, too.

- narfmoo12


I agree it will be an upgrade. Some of those games by those players were also on the 3rd line. The most anyone of those played during the season was 47 games. That was Varone.



Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Jun 21 @ 4:49 PM ET
There were several other factors why Ronald lost his job. Not just because he didn’t cowtow to Scott
- daryl stanley


great use of cowtow, daryl.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 21 @ 4:50 PM ET
Is Nazem Kadri today’s Mike Ribeiro?
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jun 21 @ 4:56 PM ET
i'm here to chew bubble gum and be existentially disappointed.

and i'm all out of (frank)ing bubble gum.
the deaninator
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Purgatory, DE
Joined: 08.06.2006

Jun 21 @ 5:02 PM ET
Is Nazem Kadri today’s Mike Ribeiro?
- SuperSchennBros


Wow that's a name I haven't thought of in a long time.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 21 @ 5:04 PM ET
i'm here to chew bubble gum and be existentially disappointed.

and i'm all out of (frank)ing bubble gum.

- Mordecai

ok Duke
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 21 @ 5:04 PM ET
Wow that's a name I haven't thought of in a long time.
- the deaninator

kind of like Kadri until now
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Jun 21 @ 5:05 PM ET
The cap and how it could affect the team is a major part of the sport now.
- MJL

I'm sure the cap of today will look different than the salary structure under a new CBA.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 21 @ 5:06 PM ET
i'm here to chew bubble gum and be existentially disappointed.

and i'm all out of (frank)ing bubble gum.

- Mordecai


Made any home improvements to the coffin lately?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 21 @ 5:07 PM ET
I'm sure the cap of today will look different than the salary structure under a new CBA.
- Sinisalo4vr


Maybe, in the owners favor. Teams and GM's are to blame. Player spending is again out of control.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jun 21 @ 5:09 PM ET
Made any home improvements to the coffin lately?
- MJL

Boston Dynamics is working on making it fully mobile so i can roll around in it at all times.
KimmoTherapy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Austin, TX
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jun 21 @ 5:10 PM ET
Seider kinda scares me. He could turn out to be the best dman taken in the draft, or could end up being a third-pair dman taken with a lottery pick.

Broberg is very Jonas Brodin. I'm sure Fletcher is intrigued.

- Tomahawk


I really like Seider's upside. I think he could be a steal, but could just end up as a very solid 5/6 dman. I think the risk is worth it.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jun 21 @ 5:11 PM ET
Soderstrom or York if he's there. as far as dmen go.

otherwise Newhook, Kaliyev, Boldy, or Krebs.
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Jun 21 @ 5:29 PM ET
great use of cowtow, daryl.
- Ftown19125

Turd
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Jun 21 @ 5:29 PM ET
Maybe, in the owners favor. Teams and GM's are to blame. Player spending is again out of control.
- MJL

Owners are to blame. Starts at the top
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