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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 21 @ 8:30 AM ET
That would leave us with no 7th dman, who we'd need to sign in addition to our RFAs and backup goalie.
- hereticpride


You have still have 7:
Provorov
Sanheim
Myers
Morin
Pesce
Niskanen
Braun
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 21 @ 8:30 AM ET
We’ve got wingers coming. Especially if you consider frost one. Next to no dmen in the system and ghost on a good contract with the recent defensive dmen acquisitions. We need to hold onto him

Fletcher mentioned laughton to fill that 3rd line. I’m ok with that. How about filpulla for 1 year at 4C? I’m ok with that

- Just5


I've been 100% anti trading Ghost...but for a player like Nylander, I'd have to really consider it.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 21 @ 8:33 AM ET
That would leave us with no 7th dman, who we'd need to sign in addition to our RFAs and backup goalie.
- hereticpride


Morin.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 21 @ 8:33 AM ET
Not sure its works for Toronto, but Carolina and Philly are happy.
Why have I seen so many thoughts to trade JVR, if I was including a forward to help the cap situation it would be Jake

- nonpoint22


Toronto's in a weird spot. They're obviously in win-now mode, but the Tavares and Nylander (and soon to be Marner) contracts backed them into a corner. They don't want picks that will take years to develop, but they can't take on cap, either.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 21 @ 8:34 AM ET
Because everyone complains when I say I would move Voracek.
- J35Bacher


I'd be very open to trading jake for the right price. And I like jake. I still believe the team needs to switch up its core.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 21 @ 8:35 AM ET
Toronto's in a weird spot. They're obviously in win-now mode, but the Tavares and Nylander (and soon to be Marner) contracts backed them into a corner. They don't want picks that will take years to develop, but they can't take on cap, either.
- jmatchett383


The marleau deal was stupid. I'm not sure how they'll get out of that. Buyout? Trade?
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jun 21 @ 8:36 AM ET
They took O'Brien out of high school
- J35Bacher


yes....jr hockey is high school ...you say tamatoe I say tomato
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 21 @ 8:38 AM ET
The marleau deal was stupid. I'm not sure how they'll get out of that. Buyout? Trade?
- Hextall271


Toronto has so much money tied up with its forwards. Marner is going to get at least 9 million per year. Going to be interesting to see how they carve out space. The D core is in serious need of changes. Moving Marleau and Zaitsev is probably only the beginning.
MrPerfect316
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, YT
Joined: 07.06.2008

Jun 21 @ 8:39 AM ET
I really like Alex Newhook, partially because it's an awesome name. But the fact that he played in the BCHL is a bit worrying. How does that compare to the CHL?
- jmatchett383


Step below, but some top end guys go there to prep for NCAA. Think zubrus, turris as players who were at the level. Typically they take a few extra years but that is usually their plan. I like Newhook’s path to the draft
Djapana
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Sunset Dreaming, FL
Joined: 09.16.2017

Jun 21 @ 8:42 AM ET
Question for Bill or anyone that knows. Why do some overagers like Fagemo and Leason , return to the draft 2-3 times while others like Myers and Zamula just sign an ELC after one pass?
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 21 @ 8:44 AM ET
Question for Bill or anyone that knows. Why do some overagers like Fagemo and Leason , return to the draft 2-3 times while others like Myers and Zamula just sign an ELC after one pass?
- Djapana


I think it's because they don't get offered a contract so they can go back in.
MrPerfect316
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, YT
Joined: 07.06.2008

Jun 21 @ 8:46 AM ET
To Carolina: van Riemsdyk, Gostisbehere, Connor Brown

To Philadelphia: Kapanen, Carolina 2nd rounder(36), Brett Pesce

To Toronto: Carolina 1st rounder(28), Hagg

Does it work?

- J35Bacher


For Carolina and Philly yes, Toronto might want more
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jun 21 @ 8:49 AM ET
I'd be very open to trading jake for the right price. And I like jake. I still believe the team needs to switch up its core.
- Hextall271



I cant see that, the moves so far is to compete, Jake is a top winger in the NHL, the hole you create would be counter to the moves made.
Djapana
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Sunset Dreaming, FL
Joined: 09.16.2017

Jun 21 @ 8:50 AM ET
I think it's because they don't get offered a contract so they can go back in.
- J35Bacher

So a guy like Leason now ranked #23 in the mock drafts, age 20, 6’2, 205 , with an 89 point season, nobody offers him a contract? It would be like getting a free #1 pick?
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 21 @ 8:52 AM ET
So a guy like Leason now ranked #23 in the mock drafts, age 20, 6’2, 205 , with an 89 point season, nobody offers him a contract? It would be like getting a free #1 pick?
- Djapana



i believe they go undrafted and then don't get a contract. Like I beleive Zemula would have went back into the draft if the Flyers didn't sign him.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 21 @ 8:53 AM ET
I've been 100% anti trading Ghost...but for a player like Nylander, I'd have to really consider it.
- jmatchett383


Giroux-coots-konecny
Lindblom-Hayes-Jake
Jvr-Patrick-laughton
Farabee-filpulla-Hartman

J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 21 @ 8:54 AM ET
For Carolina and Philly yes, Toronto might want more
- MrPerfect316



Toronto clears money in Brown, doesn't need to give Kapanen a contract, and gets a reliable cheap defender plus a first rounder they can deal with.

They can't take on money if Marner is getting a huge deal.


J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 21 @ 8:55 AM ET
Giroux-coots-konecny
Lindblom-Hayes-Jake
Jvr-Patrick-laughton
Farabee-filpulla-Hartman

- Just5



I'd rather just let Raffl play center on a 4th line then
juiced
Joined: 06.13.2014

Jun 21 @ 8:56 AM ET
Toronto clears money in Brown, doesn't need to give Kapanen a contract, and gets a reliable cheap defender plus a first rounder they can deal with.

They can't take on money if Marner is getting a huge deal.

- J35Bacher



Could always flip Braun with money retained for Connor Brown for 3rd line.
MrPerfect316
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, YT
Joined: 07.06.2008

Jun 21 @ 8:58 AM ET
Toronto clears money in Brown, doesn't need to give Kapanen a contract, and gets a reliable cheap defender plus a first rounder they can deal with.

They can't take on money if Marner is getting a huge deal.

- J35Bacher



Absolutely but I still think additionally they would like a legit prospect back or another pick
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 21 @ 9:00 AM ET
For Carolina and Philly yes, Toronto might want more
- MrPerfect316


Lol yeah maybe
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 21 @ 9:01 AM ET
I'd rather just let Raffl play center on a 4th line then
- J35Bacher


Filpulla 30+ points last year. When has raffl played center last? It doesn’t have to be filpulla but a one year stopgap at 4C

Raffl should not have been resigned.

Acciari would also interest me at 4c
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 21 @ 9:03 AM ET
Filpulla 30+ points last year. When has raffl played center last? It doesn’t have to be filpulla but a one year stopgap at 4C

Raffl should not have been resigned.

- Just5



Filppula is probably going to cost more then you expect.
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Jun 21 @ 9:06 AM ET
Bill, Are there any guys in the draft - around the 11th pick - that may be NHL ready that could possibly win a roster spot in camp?
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jun 21 @ 9:06 AM ET
The marleau deal was stupid. I'm not sure how they'll get out of that. Buyout? Trade?
- Hextall271

Dubas came out yesterday, It looks likely he'll be a leaf next season. So, basically nobody wants that deal 😂😂
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