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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 21 @ 9:09 AM ET
Bob McKenzie says the cap could be as low as $81.5m. If Provorov gets $8m, that would be ridiculous given his past season struggles and the fact he has only completed 3 of the 7 years required to become a free agent. But it could also put the Flyers in a real cap crunch with $14.5m left to sign Sanheim, Konency, Laughton, Hartman, and a veteran backup goalie and two more forwards just to get to 23 players (13 F, 8D, 2 G).

ROSTER SIZE 16 (Schlemko and Lyon demoted)
SALARY CAP $81,500,000
CAP HIT $66,957,579
CAP SPACE $14,542,421

Of course there are always moves you can make. If you keep Lyon as the backup goalie, you can save $2m or more. Trade Hartman for a pick and replace him with a prospect saves you $1m. But these are not moves that are aimed at making the team better. Just at being cap compliant.

Then in 19-20 the only contracts coming off the books are Braun and Schlemko which will only free up $4,825,000‬ in space. But Fletcher will need to sign Lindblom, Patrick, Hagg and Myers. Assuming they are are still Flyers.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 21 @ 9:09 AM ET
Filppula is probably going to cost more then you expect.
- J35Bacher


2.5?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 21 @ 9:11 AM ET
Bob McKenzie says the cap could be as low as $81.5m. If Provorov gets $8m, that would be ridiculous given his past season struggles and the fact he has only completed 3 of the 7 years required to become a free agent. But it could also put the Flyers in a real cap crunch with $14.5m left to sign Sanheim, Konency, Laughton, Hartman, and a veteran backup goalie and two more forwards just to get to 23 players (13 F, 8D, 2 G).

ROSTER SIZE 16 (Schlemko and Lyon demoted)
SALARY CAP $81,500,000
CAP HIT $66,957,579
CAP SPACE $14,542,421

Of course there are always moves you can make. If you keep Lyon as the backup goalie, you can save $2m or more. Trade Hartman for a pick and replace him with a prospect saves you $1m. But these are not moves that are aimed at making the team better. Just at being cap compliant.

Then in 19-20 the only contracts coming off the books are Braun adn Schlemko which will only free up $4,825,000‬ in space. But Fletcher will need to sign Lindblom, Patrick, Hagg and Myers. Assuming they are are still Flyers.

- Feanor


Let’s get real. Provorov is not getting close to 8. Maybe close to 7 long term. Maybe a little over. Around 6 if he takes a bridge
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 21 @ 9:11 AM ET
Giroux-coots-konecny
Lindblom-Hayes-Jake
Jvr-Patrick-laughton
Farabee-filpulla-Hartman

- Just5


Switch Farabee and Laughton and I'm on board.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 21 @ 9:12 AM ET
Dubas came out yesterday, It looks likely he'll be a leaf next season. So, basically nobody wants that deal 😂😂
- nonpoint22


If someone offer sheets marner they could be screwed.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 21 @ 9:13 AM ET
If someone offer sheets marner they could be screwed.
- Hextall271


Assuming Marner signs the offer sheet. People always seem to forget that the player has to accept it.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 21 @ 9:14 AM ET
Switch Farabee and Laughton and I'm on board.
- jmatchett383


You could sure. Or you could do it as the year goes on. Farabee I think will surprise in camp. The kid is ahead of where konecny was when he stuck.
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Jun 21 @ 9:14 AM ET
i believe they go undrafted and then don't get a contract. Like I beleive Zemula would have went back into the draft if the Flyers didn't sign him.
- J35Bacher

wonder where Zemula would be drafted this year?
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 21 @ 9:15 AM ET
I really like Alex Newhook, partially because it's an awesome name. But the fact that he played in the BCHL is a bit worrying. How does that compare to the CHL?
- jmatchett383


It's like the B-grade version of the CHL.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 21 @ 9:16 AM ET
I really like Alex Newhook, partially because it's an awesome name. But the fact that he played in the BCHL is a bit worrying. How does that compare to the CHL?
- jmatchett383


It's around the same level as the Q. It's '2nd-tier' but there are still a lot of good players there.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 21 @ 9:19 AM ET
I'd rather just let Raffl play center on a 4th line then
- J35Bacher


Hartman is an actual RW so I'd have him on the 3rd line and Laughton at 4C given the current roster. No need to go out and sign an old guy to play 4C.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 21 @ 9:21 AM ET
Let’s get real. Provorov is not getting close to 8. Maybe close to 7 long term. Maybe a little over. Around 6 if he takes a bridge
- Just5


I agree, but apparently $8m is what his camp is demanding. So I don't see that deal getting done till September.

Gotta see what this guy gets...

https://www.eliteprospect...ayer/186311/zach-werenski
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jun 21 @ 9:21 AM ET
Assuming Marner signs the offer sheet. People always seem to forget that the player has to accept it.
- jmatchett383


Yeah but the notion that if someone offers him the "close to Auston Matthews money" his camp desires that he will turn it down based on the fact he's a good ole Canadian boy and leads fan. The players association would have something to say about that as well.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 21 @ 9:22 AM ET
Filpulla 30+ points last year.
- Just5


So did Scottie.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 21 @ 9:35 AM ET
Assuming Marner signs the offer sheet. People always seem to forget that the player has to accept it.
- jmatchett383


Zero chance he turns down a max offer sheet.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 21 @ 9:38 AM ET
Didn't realize Pesce was a dman. My bad.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 21 @ 9:39 AM ET
I still believe the Braun trade is an indictment on the performance of Hagg and to a lesser extent Morin. I hope I m not proven wrong tonight.

Also, I think they want Talbot back as the back up, but my guess is below 2 million.
shekkie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Perkasie, PA
Joined: 07.05.2007

Jun 21 @ 9:39 AM ET
I agree, but apparently $8m is what his camp is demanding. So I don't see that deal getting done till September.

Gotta see what this guy gets...

https://www.eliteprospect...ayer/186311/zach-werenski

- Feanor



Is this reported somewhere?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 21 @ 9:40 AM ET
Filpulla 30+ points last year. When has raffl played center last? It doesn’t have to be filpulla but a one year stopgap at 4C

Raffl should not have been resigned.

Acciari would also interest me at 4c

- Just5


Re-signing Raffl was a no brainer.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 21 @ 9:42 AM ET
Re-signing Raffl was a no brainer.
- MJL



Not that they will but at the deal Raffl signed, they can bury almost the whole contract if they want or need to i believe.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 21 @ 9:43 AM ET
I still believe the Braun trade is an indictment on the performance of Hagg and to a lesser extent Morin. I hope I m not proven wrong tonight.

Also, I think they want Talbot back as the back up, but my guess is below 2 million.

- ravishingone


The Flyers see Braun as a top 4 RH defenseman. They see Haag and Morin as 3rd pair defenseman.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 21 @ 9:43 AM ET
I still believe the Braun trade is an indictment on the performance of Hagg and to a lesser extent Morin. I hope I m not proven wrong tonight.

Also, I think they want Talbot back as the back up, but my guess is below 2 million.

- ravishingone

The fact that they didn't ice Morin until they were mathematically eliminated seemed to say a lot too.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 21 @ 9:44 AM ET
The fact that they didn't ice Morin until they were mathematically eliminated seemed to say a lot too.
- hereticpride



Like he was coming off injuries and wanted to make sure he was completely healed before trying to send him out there and also up to closer to game shape.
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Jun 21 @ 9:45 AM ET
The fact that they didn't ice Morin until they were mathematically eliminated seemed to say a lot too.
- hereticpride

I wouldnt read much into that as they couldn't afford to just throw him in the lineup after that long a layoff as trying to make the playoffs. Not fair to him or the team
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 21 @ 9:50 AM ET
I still believe the Braun trade is an indictment on the performance of Hagg and to a lesser extent Morin. I hope I m not proven wrong tonight.

Also, I think they want Talbot back as the back up, but my guess is below 2 million.

- ravishingone


Dunno, Hagg improved across the board in terms of points, blocks, hits, etc, even tho he saw less ice time. I can't imagine they're too disappointed with his 2nd season.

Morin was always a wildcard.
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