They shouldnt even play in the league this year.

In trying to get better they have lost at salary cap and that should drop them from the league.

If someone offer sheets Provorov in the neighborhood of 8-10 then thats not on Fletcher. I like Provorov but I can't reasonably feel he is worth that.

If anything I think teams would far more be likely to offer sheet guys like McAvoy and Werenski before Provorov.
- J35Bacher

Thing is it can be 8 and the Flyers would be in real trouble. Its low enough they would have to match, but would lose a real good player in doing so to clear the space.

Irregardless that no one will admit it, there is collusion amongst ownership, especially in the NHL. How many offer sheets have been tendered in the last 10 years? I like Provy, but looking at the list of RFAs available, he isn t in the top 3 of guys who would warrant an OS when the lesgue has very little track record of using it at all.

They shouldnt even play in the league this year.

In trying to get better they have lost at salary cap and that should drop them from the league.
- opeth_pa

Ugh. True. I wasn't watching them anyway. Boycotting because of the whole Kate Smith statue thing.

I agree 1000000% I also lay blame at the philly media and fan base. Screaming for drama about winning now. Hexy was with la and saw first hand how it takes 10 years to fully build a cup team when you have no top prospects. Doing things like trading pick 41 for Braun for 1 year? Just stupid. Typical old philly way. It’s doesnt work.
- SMS4016

Every bit of cap space helps. And they wasted the space cleared by buying out AMac and traded for Braun. I sure wish they had that space now.

So are we not discussing the Provy, Ghost and 11th for Taylor Hall 7x11.5 mil extension and 1st overall??

So are we not discussing the Provy, Ghost and 11th for Taylor Hall 7x11.5 mil extension and 1st overall??
- ShadowsX42

Is that a thing?

Dunno, Hagg improved across the board in terms of points, blocks, hits, etc, even tho he saw less ice time. I can't imagine they're too disappointed with his 2nd season.
- Tomahawk

His ice time kept going down as the season progressed.

18:38 (16:36 ES) under Hak

15:55 (14:14 ES) under Gordon

Every bit of cap space helps. And they wasted the space cleared by buying out AMac and traded for Braun. I sure wish they had that space now.
- MBFlyerfan

How did they waste space buying out AMac? Sending him down only gives us 1 mill and are on hook for 4 mill. Buyout had the opposite affect, we are on the hook for 1-2 mill and we gained 3-4 in cap space

How did they waste space buying out AMac? Sending him down only gives us 1 mill and are on hook for 4 mill. Buyout had the opposite affect, we are on the hook for 1-2 mill and we gained 3-4 in cap space
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

This season.

Zero chance he turns down a max offer sheet.
- Hextall271

I don't think anyone will offer him $20M.

In your opinion (anyone) is it more important to sign the 2G or 3rd RW? This might determine potential moves.

I have to believe that anyone with a cap hit of $4+ has to be off the table for us unless we move similar cap hit.

I would ask Talbot if he would take under $2 for 1-2 years. And try and get a speedy young forward on a cheap deal.

Since we currently have 8 D I have to assume we are prepared to move 1. Ghost could potentially get us the winger and draft picks back. I believe he is the target.

Not even close.
- dubc55

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But it didn't take 10 years.
- J35Bacher

Ummm yeah. It did take Kings 10 years to build and turn over roster before they started winning cups

Why wouldnt he? If someone is willing to give him the cash he wants he isnt going to turn it down. He also knows any offer is going to be matched so it ends negotiations immediately.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Taking taxes out of the equation, he could get more by staying in Toronto

Let's say Toronto is offering him 8 x $10M, $80M total. Any other team would have to offer him $11.5 because of the extra year, and I don't think they will. Either way, he could always use the offer as leverage and see if Toronto would go higher over 8 years. So no, I don't see him signing an OS.

In your opinion (anyone) is it more important to sign the 2G or 3rd RW? This might determine potential moves.

I have to believe that anyone with a cap hit of $4+ has to be off the table for us unless we move similar cap hit.

I would ask Talbot if he would take under $2 for 1-2 years. And try and get a speedy young forward on a cheap deal.

Since we currently have 8 D I have to assume we are prepared to move 1. Ghost could potentially get us the winger and draft picks back. I believe he is the target.
- cdearth23

I would go reliable back up first. I think they can make it work on the wing if they need to. May be Laughton moves to 3rd line wing or maybe someone like Twarynski or Farabee or Frost win a job.

I think they can make it work on the wing. I need someone to pair with Hart. Maybe a guy like McElhanney?

This season.
- Ftown19125

Yea but next season it isnt much. Braun is gone, gudas is gone all thats left is a small bit from buyout. We are still gaining 4 mill in cap space next season

I guess why I think Ghost is staying because if he goes for a fwd, 2 guys that will probably be used in the top 6 this season will be free agents in a yr- Braun and Hagg. Granted Hagg is restricted. Morin really hasn t played in 2 yrs. Right or wrong, I don t think he gets much of a shot until one of the top 6 misses time with injury.

You make good points and I could very well be proven wrong shortly.
- ravishingone

No doubt Ghost is better for the team than Hagg, Morin at this point. Ghost brings different things to the table, an "A" game talent to the PP. His 5 on 5 play is average at best, but buried at line 3 he will be fine. So, I think they would like to keep Ghost (his cap hit is ok). But, Ghost has the most trade value, if we're shopping for a good forward.

I agree with Morin. Out of all the guys, he's the one that must win his job. The others have their jobs to lose. If he's a rock star at Camp... the Flyers have a tough decision to make. I believe that the Flyers like the concept of what Morin should be able to bring to the Flyers. Big, gritty, defenseman with some offensive upside possibly

Both aren't ready yet... Radcliffe is closest to being ready
- nonpoint22

Based on what?

Yea but next season it isnt much. Braun is gone, gudas is gone all thats left is a small bit from buyout. We are still gaining 4 mill in cap space next season
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Yes, but next season you need to resign Myers, Hagg, Patrick, and Lindblom. That extra space would have been nice.

So are we not discussing the Provy, Ghost and 11th for Taylor Hall 7x11.5 mil extension and 1st overall??
- ShadowsX42

Thats actually a crazy thing to think about.. Obviously, it would never happen but I would have to think about it. Leave us pretty weak on the backend, but Hall and Hughes would be tough to give up. Maybe add a high salary forward like Jake for a defender... but it's quite the creative thought

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In your opinion (anyone) is it more important to sign the 2G or 3rd RW? This might determine potential moves.

I have to believe that anyone with a cap hit of $4+ has to be off the table for us unless we move similar cap hit.

I would ask Talbot if he would take under $2 for 1-2 years. And try and get a speedy young forward on a cheap deal.

Since we currently have 8 D I have to assume we are prepared to move 1. Ghost could potentially get us the winger and draft picks back. I believe he is the target.
- cdearth23

The 3rd RW will play 82 games (hopefully). The 2G will play what, 30% of the games? Go for the RW'er. (unless one of the prospects are ready to jump into the NHL). I would think we could pick up a 2G, fairly cheaply. I think Talbot is the guy, not sure how much he'll cost.

I just think Fletch and AV want 2+ seasoned vets, to sprinkle into the mix. Going into last year, AMAC/Gudas were penciled-in as top 4 / bottom 4 vets... AMAC sucked at top 4, Gudas played well enough at the bottom 4. However, Fletch wanted a better defensive-defensemen. Substitute Nisky/Braun as top 4 / bottom 4 guys. I don't think Braun (or Nisky) this says anything about the younger defensemen. We are moving from last years potential log jam, to log jam. The 6 younger guys are going to compete for the available 5 more jobs. One is probably gone unless Fletch carrier 8 d-men. The other option is that Fletch has one guy to "burn", if a good deal pops up to fill a perceived gap (RW'er for example). It depend on who the RW'er is... If he's a top-notch guy, Ghost is gone... If he's a average Joe, Hagg is gone. Morin is really the wild card from sitting out with the injury. We really don't know what he's going to do, do we have a Pronger or Rathje. If we trade Ghost, I hope Morin will pan-out. We should be alright regardless if Hagg is the trade.
- leon neon

MacDonald was not penciled into a top 4 role heading into this off season for the upcoming season. It was one of 3 choices. 3rd pair, waived and demoted, or bought out.

No doubt Ghost is better for the team than Hagg, Morin at this point. Ghost brings different things to the table, an "A" game talent to the PP. His 5 on 5 play is average at best, but buried at line 3 he will be fine. So, I think they would like to keep Ghost (his cap hit is ok). But, Ghost has the most trade value, if we're shopping for a good forward.

I agree with Morin. Out of all the guys, he's the one that must win his job. The others have their jobs to lose. If he's a rock star at Camp... the Flyers have a tough decision to make. I believe that the Flyers like the concept of what Morin should be able to bring to the Flyers. Big, gritty, defenseman with some offensive upside possibly
- leon neon

There is definite intrigue in Morin, his 2 yr extension is evidence. I think he will be the 7th to start the season and Schlemko will be waived to LV. He s going to get his shot with injuries.

I just don t see the need to improve RW. I believe Hart is a franchise goalie. I would think the priority would be to protect him as opposed to try and improve scoring. For me, having Ghost with his cap hit on third pairing, makes sense to me.