He was able to skate up and down the wing with impunity and score from the perimeter because nobody could reach the puck to get it off his stick.

That poop ain't gonna fly in the pros. Gaps are closer, dmen are bigger, you get swarmed the minute you get near the blueline, and goalies don't let in floaters nearly as often.
- Tomahawk

Agree there. Lavoie from Halifax will experience same growth.

I miss crims
- Marc D

he was the only one that believed

That depends on this seasons cap increase and next. We can make room next season.

We still dont know if JVR and Voracek are part of Fletchers vision of the team, Niskanen can be moved if the young kids excel. We dont need 4th line guys making 1-2 mill each

Gudas cap is gone
Braun is gone

There are things the team can do to make space
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Agreed. But we shouldn't be in a position to have to worry about it to begin with. That is what really chaps my a$$.

Both aren't ready yet... Radcliffe is closest to being ready
- nonpoint22

Huh?

I love Ron Hextall was allowed 5 years to do his work and Fletcher hasn't even got past his first draft and his plan is wrong.

I love Ron Hextall was allowed 5 years to do his work and Fletcher hasn't even got past his first draft and his plan is wrong.
- J35Bacher

Capbuzz..

Win a Cup, doesnt matter.
Win the cap...all that matters.

Agreed. But we shouldn't be in a position to have to worry about it to begin with. That is what really chaps my a$$.
- MBFlyerfan

Why? They knew this summer was the big year against the cap. That's why Schenn was traded for 2 1st rounders and Simmonds traded with no thoughts of bringing him back.

Capbuzz..

Win a Cup, doesnt matter.
Win the cap...all that matters.
- opeth_pa

I get what people are saying but we haven't even allowed for the draft or free agency. Maybe Fletcher has a plan to reshape the roster and move some cap off this roster.

That depends on this seasons cap increase and next. We can make room next season.

We still dont know if JVR and Voracek are part of Fletchers vision of the team, Niskanen can be moved if the young kids excel. We dont need 4th line guys making 1-2 mill each

Gudas cap is gone
Braun is gone

There are things the team can do to make space
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

There are always things you can do to maneuver around the cap but a lot of them are not good for a developing team. You should never put yourself in that position if you're not a legit contender. When you have a lot of good young players, cap wise you become a victim of your own success. That is the nature of the cap but you don't compound that future issue with your own moves. Look at Toronto, they have a lot of good young players and cap issues. They aren't good enough and are likely going to have to make moves that they ordinarily wouldn't do. Worst place to be. Making moves like adding Marleau are going to cost them and they haven't won squat. Realistically what are the Flyers going to do this upcoming season to justify it?

I love Ron Hextall was allowed 5 years to do his work and Fletcher hasn't even got past his first draft and his plan is wrong.
- J35Bacher

I'm keeping an open mind on fletch until his moves are complete. So far there's been nothing over the top. My bigger problem is the mandate from above to go for it now, but hope Fletch sticks to the plan of sticking with the youth until it's go time.

Capbuzz..

Win a Cup, doesnt matter.
Win the cap...all that matters.
- opeth_pa

False narrative. If you're at a point where you're a legit contender and have a real shot at it, the cap position the Flyers are in is fine. In fact it's where you should be. When you're in the position the Flyers are in which is a developing team that is not a legit contender, then being in that position is not fine when you have as many good quality young players as they have. It's nuanced.

I'm keeping an open mind on fletch until his moves are complete. So far there's been nothing over the top. My bigger problem is the mandate from above to go for it now, but hope Fletch sticks to the plan of sticking with the youth until it's go time.
- Hextall271

I'm with this. I'm not going nuts over what has happened so far, but there are some things I don't like. We'll see what else happens.

I'm keeping an open mind on fletch until his moves are complete. So far there's been nothing over the top. My bigger problem is the mandate from above to go for it now, but hope Fletch sticks to the plan of sticking with the youth until it's go time.
- Hextall271

I can understand this. My worry (and I realize it is worst case) is that we see all of the younger players we have being bled away because we cant afford to pay them due to cap issues. I don't want to become Toronto and have our window being slammed shut before it should be.

False narrative. If you're at a point where you're a legit contender and have a real shot at it, the cap position the Flyers are in is fine. In fact it's where you should be. When you're in the position the Flyers are in which is a developing team that is not a legit contender, then being in that position is not fine when you have as many good quality young players as they have. It's nuanced.
- MJL

But all this is just opinion. Not fact.

We just saw a playoffs where all the number 1 seeds lost, an Islanders team lose their generational captain and play better, a Canes team went to the ECF and a St. Louis team who played old school hockey with a rookie goalie win the cup.

Hockey people might see more then you or i do.

But all this is just opinion. Not fact.

We just saw a playoffs where all the number 1 seeds lost, an Islanders team lose their generational captain and play better, a Canes team went to the ECF and a St. Louis team who played old school hockey with a rookie goalie win the cup.

Hockey people might see more then you or i do.
- J35Bacher

not to mention, a Blues team that won the cup one year after missing the playoffs.

not to mention, a Blues team that won the cup one year after missing the playoffs.
- shekkie

And i might be wrong but i believe a lot of their analytical stats were not great.

FORWARDS (13)
Claude Giroux 8,275,000 Sean Couturier 4,333,333 Nikolaj Ehlers 6,000,000
James vanRiemsdyk 7,000,000 Kevin Hayes 7,142,850 Jakub Voracek 8,250,000
Oskar Lindblom 925,000 Nolan Patrick 925,000 Travis Konecny 4,500,000
Michael Raffl 1,600,000 Scott Laughton 1,500,000 Ryan Hartman 1,500,000
Nicolas Aubé-Kubel 850,000


DEFENSE (7)
Ivan Provorov 7,500,000 Matt Niskanen 5,750,000
Travis Sanheim 3,500,000 Justin Braun 3,800,000
Robert Hägg 1,150,000 Philippe Myers 678,889
Samuel Morin 700,000

GOALTENDER (2)
Carter Hart ($730,833) - Brian Elliott ($1,500,000)

AHL BURIED (1)

David Schlemko ($1,025,000)

BUYOUTS (2)
Andrew MacDonald ($1,166,667) - Ilya Bryzgalov ($0)

RETAINED SALARY TRANSACTIONS (1)
Radko Gudas ($1,005,000)

DETAILS
Roster Size: 22
Salary Cap: $82,000,000
Cap Hit: $81,307,579
Cap Space: $692,421

It’s a close cap and it’s give or take a few million on RFAs. I really like how this lineup would look. I also like the special teams

PP1
Jvr-Giroux-Couturier-Voracek
Niskanen

PP2
Lindblom-Patrick-Ehlers-Konecny
Sanheim

PK1
Hayes-Raffl
Provorov-Braun

PK2
Laughton-Lindblom
Hagg-Myers

It’s a great spread of ice time imo.

Mock draft now posted on Flyers' site: https://www.nhl.com/news/...t-round-picks/c-307951244

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With the 11th overall pick the Philadelphia Flyers select Holden Caulfield

Mock draft now posted on Flyers' site: https://www.nhl.com/news/...t-round-picks/c-307951244

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- bmeltzer

I'm good with that, git er done!

Capbuzz..

Win a Cup, doesnt matter.
Win the cap...all that matters.
- opeth_pa

Ask the Lakers about the cap

That pick will be traded before tonight so no worries haha
- Hextall271

Haha, sighhhhhh

With the 11th overall pick the Philadelphia Flyers select Holden Caulfield
- 2Real

Yes please!

With the 11th overall pick the Philadelphia Flyers select Holden Caulfield
- 2Real

“People are always ruining things for you”

I love Ron Hextall was allowed 5 years to do his work and Fletcher hasn't even got past his first draft and his plan is wrong.
- J35Bacher

And in one off season, it appears that Fletcher is throwing away a lot of the room Hextall gave us from 5 years of suffering.

Fletcher should have taken of the in-house issues first imo (RFA's). Then you can truly see how much cap space you have to work with and how much room you have to make additions!

False narrative. If you're at a point where you're a legit contender and have a real shot at it, the cap position the Flyers are in is fine. In fact it's where you should be. When you're in the position the Flyers are in which is a developing team that is not a legit contender, then being in that position is not fine when you have as many good quality young players as they have. It's nuanced.
- MJL

Just like to me it's a false narrative that Fletch is an abject failure 6 months into is job..

Again...that infamous magic 2 years from now that has to come some point in the business world.

There is 0 wrong IMO for the Team trying to do what it believes it needs to do to be competitive which is something the Flyers were not under Hexy.