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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 22 @ 2:49 PM ET
it's apples to oranges when you evaluate player for picks trades using this logic.


The benefit of drafting/developing your own similar player is the cheap production you get before they get paid fair value on their 2nd or 3rd contracts. Plus you get more years of their prime. So even if both players turn out relatively equal, you benefit much more from the draft pick turning out than you do from trading for a player.

- Nucker101

"If" that prospect ever even turns out. I can't imagine how you feel at the TDL when teams trade pciks for current players. Do you hide in your closet with tin foil hat on?
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Jun 22 @ 2:49 PM ET
My boy ahac went to the knights.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 22 @ 2:50 PM ET
Why hasn't Aquilini tweeted about how excited he is to add Miller to the Canucks?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 22 @ 2:50 PM ET
"If" that prospect ever even turns out. I can't imagine how you feel at the TDL when teams trade pciks for current players. Do you hide in your closet with tin foil hat on?
- manvanfan


Again, if you want to talk like an adult, I’m here for it.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 22 @ 2:51 PM ET
Why hasn't Aquilini tweeted about how excited he is to add Miller to the Canucks?
- A_SteamingLombardi


I'm pretty sure he smashed his phone.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 22 @ 2:52 PM ET
Again, if you want to talk like an adult, I’m here for it.
- Nucker101

I was bringing myself down to your level bud. Thought it would help you understand. I'm sorry
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 22 @ 2:52 PM ET
He's usually good for 20+, he spent some time in the doghouse in Tampa, didn't get his usual ice time. Not a ringing endorsement, I know, but that's why Tampa was so dominant during the regular season. They had a player of Miller's caliber in their doghouse while Canuck fans were trying to get excited about Leivo/Pearson as potential 2nd line help for Horvat.
- Nucker101

He spent a bunch of time on the 4th line. If I remember correct he even sat in the press box for some time as well. This is a horrible deal. The optics are not good at all.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Linden4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 22 @ 2:52 PM ET
Why is Brandon Sutter still a member of the Vancouver Canucks
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 22 @ 2:52 PM ET
I'm pretty sure he smashed his phone.
- golfingsince

He should be using it to fire Benning.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 22 @ 2:53 PM ET
Why is Brandon Sutter still a member of the Vancouver Canucks
- Pacificgem

7th round picks haven't been traded yet
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 22 @ 2:53 PM ET
2nd liner
- Nucker101

He will be starting on Sutters wing.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 22 @ 2:54 PM ET
Why is Brandon Sutter still a member of the Vancouver Canucks
- Pacificgem

Playoffs
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Jun 22 @ 2:54 PM ET
He spent a bunch of time on the 4th line. If I remember correct he even sat in the press box for some time as well. This is a horrible deal. The optics are not good at all.
- thundachunk


Yup.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 22 @ 2:54 PM ET
Why is Brandon Sutter still a member of the Vancouver Canucks
- Pacificgem

We need a foundational player now that Benning has undermined this team.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 22 @ 2:54 PM ET
Why is Brandon Sutter still a member of the Vancouver Canucks
- Pacificgem


You can't just go and trade foundational players.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 22 @ 2:54 PM ET
Playoffs
- VANTEL

I don't even know what that is anymore.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 22 @ 2:54 PM ET
He spent a bunch of time on the 4th line. If I remember correct he even sat in the press box for some time as well. This is a horrible deal. The optics are not good at all.
- thundachunk


He was a player I was hoping Benning could trade for at a reasonable cost because of his issues with Cooper + TB’s cap situation. I think it’s an overpay for sure.

But Miller as a player will be a nice upgrade on the likes of Baertschi and Leivo.

I like him better as a fit with Bo than EP, but we’ll see how things unfold.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 22 @ 2:55 PM ET
You can't just go and trade foundational players.
- golfingsince

You acquire them for 1st round picks.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 22 @ 2:55 PM ET
He will be starting on Sutters wing.
- thundachunk


That would be setting him up for failure, I hope Green is smarter than that
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 22 @ 2:56 PM ET
I hope you guys enjoy the rest of this fiasco I'm going to my Aunt's 90th Birthday.
SlightlyOffside
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 01.25.2016

Jun 22 @ 2:56 PM ET
He was a player I was hoping Benning could trade for at a reasonable cost because of his issues with Cooper + TB’s cap situation. I think it’s an overpay for sure.

But Miller as a player will be a nice upgrade on the likes of Baertschi and Leivo.

I like him better as a fit with Bo than EP, but we’ll see how things unfold.

- Nucker101


This!
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 22 @ 2:56 PM ET
Why hasn't Aquilini tweeted about how excited he is to add Miller to the Canucks?
- A_SteamingLombardi


he's busy cleaning out JB's desk.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 22 @ 2:58 PM ET
I hope you guys enjoy the rest of this fiasco I'm going to my Aunt's 90th Birthday.
- A_SteamingLombardi


Have fun, i'm going to the beer garden at the Peach City Cruise.

I'll fix things.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 22 @ 2:58 PM ET
he's busy cleaning out JB's desk.
- VanHockeyGuy

We can only hope.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 22 @ 2:58 PM ET
According to Biech, because this is before July 1st, Canucks do not need to fully honor JT Miller's trade clauses.

I wonder what the implications of this trade will mean for expansion draft. I know a ton can change between now and then, but I am assuming Miller needs to be protected.
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