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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 23 @ 12:11 AM ET


I’d like to see what he can do without financial restrictions

- Nucker101

Same here. The guy was a great player & a savvy boss.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 23 @ 12:16 AM ET
Negative value is a huge over statement, TB having cap issues absolutely means Benning shouldn’t have paid full value for him, unfortunately he did because he wanted him.

Make no mistake, there’s pressure from ownership to make the playoffs but it’s still an overpayment. All that said, if they miss next season, which is expected unless they have a huge upgrade on defense, they keep their 2020. Have another good draft and try to recoup a first for 2021.

- Pacificgem

1 team only cannot put another team over a barrel.
Pacificgem
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 23 @ 12:18 AM ET
Juolevi to Las Vegas for Colin Miller? The Miller boys. If you’re going for it, go for it.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 23 @ 12:20 AM ET
I disagree. A third and a lottery protected first for a 26 year old top 6 winger is A reduced price. 100%. Was it a slight overpayment given they also had a tough cap situation? Perhaps. I’m ok with it because I like the player
- CanuckDon


This 👍
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 23 @ 12:22 AM ET
I agree, it just means other than Boeser and maybe Leivo all our other forward RFAs are history.
- A_SteamingLombardi

They had their chance & blew it somewhat.
Nothing is guaranteed
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 23 @ 12:26 AM ET
Juolevi to Las Vegas for Colin Miller? The Miller boys. If you’re going for it, go for it.
- Pacificgem

Keep OJ & sign Gardiner 5/6-6.5m.
Cost is up to 3m more & keep a depth asset.
Pacificgem
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 23 @ 12:28 AM ET
Keep OJ & sign Gardiner 5/6-6.5m.
Cost is up to 3m more & keep a depth asset.

- Nighthawk

The reported ask from the Gardiner camp starts at 7x7. No thanks. Plus he’s 29 years old and he might not want to sign in another Canadian city.
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

Jun 23 @ 12:39 AM ET
It takes either big balls or small brains.
- CubanBuffet

Usually guys only think with one or the other, not both.......
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 23 @ 12:49 AM ET
The reported ask from the Gardiner camp starts at 7x7. No thanks. Plus he’s 29 years old and he might not want to sign in another Canadian city.
- Pacificgem


I'd go higher AV and shorter term.

7.5m/5

Gardiner-Tanev
Edler-Stetcher
Hughes-Schenn
OJ-Rafferty

Next year sign Barrie to replace Tanev.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 23 @ 12:55 AM ET
Easy to say, hard to know. They’ll need another stellar year from Markstrom and Edler, and Petey and Boeser to take another step. Plus whoever else they bring in will have to deliver.
- CubanBuffet

Full season for Hughes will help.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Jun 23 @ 1:03 AM ET
Full season for Hughes will help.
- LordHumungous


Like D-Bot said, he’ll have to play well enough to be in the Calder conversation. A lot of ifs.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 23 @ 1:39 AM ET
Meh.


CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 23 @ 1:46 AM ET
Meh.
- Reubenkincade

Well said Reuby
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 23 @ 1:51 AM ET
Meh.
- Reubenkincade

It would mean a lot more if they were playing tomorrow.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 23 @ 2:03 AM ET
Take the BPA!
ugh, not a Russian though!

Make a trade for a top 6 forward!
Wait, don't trade assets though!

Sign a UFA!
Not that one!!!

- dbot


That’s a poor characterization of (what are we calling him now?) Marwood. I feel confident in saying I can speak for him when I say: he did not care if it was the Russian or the American, it was always about who Bracket thought was the best player available. He never wanted to trade for a top 6 forward, it has always been about allowing the current drafted players to develop, and filling in around the edges. Trading for top 6 forwards costs more than the team can afford at this juncture. And while it’s only June 22nd, I’m positive he has never once advocated to sign any of the over priced UFA’s to stupid $ & term on July 1st, so I’m just heading off your third point.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 23 @ 2:05 AM ET
Juolevi to Las Vegas for Colin Miller? The Miller boys. If you’re going for it, go for it.
- Pacificgem


Might as well throw in a first as well, just to be consistent.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 23 @ 2:07 AM ET
I wonder if the over age picks had anything to do with filling the Comets roster. They need serious help with the forwards and I bet Aquilini didn't want all the one way contracts like Kero and Bouchard
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 23 @ 2:08 AM ET
I'd go higher AV and shorter term.

7.5m/5

Gardiner-Tanev
Edler-Stetcher
Hughes-Schenn
OJ-Rafferty

Next year sign Barrie to replace Tanev.

- dbot

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 23 @ 2:13 AM ET

- VANTEL


I don’t think Gardiner settles for less than 6 years in this market
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 23 @ 2:15 AM ET
I wonder if the over age picks had anything to do with filling the Comets roster. They need serious help with the forwards and I bet Aquilini didn't want all the one way contracts like Kero and Bouchard
- VANTEL


Probably. Also can the Euro players play in the AHL early?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 23 @ 2:17 AM ET
I don’t think Gardiner settles for less than 6 years in this market
- Nucker101



I wonder what the GMs will do . I don't know now that the cap number is in if GMTs will go long term. All the contracts Benning has brought in so far have been reasonable cap and term wise.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 23 @ 2:20 AM ET
That’s a poor characterization of (what are we calling him now?) Marwood. I feel confident in saying I can speak for him when I say: he did not care if it was the Russian or the American, it was always about who Bracket thought was the best player available. He never wanted to trade for a top 6 forward, it has always been about allowing the current drafted players to develop, and filling in around the edges. Trading for top 6 forwards costs more than the team can afford at this juncture. And while it’s only June 22nd, I’m positive he has never once advocated to sign any of the over priced UFA’s to stupid $ & term on July 1st, so I’m just heading off your third point.
- 1970vintage




My comments weren't directed at Marwood per se, more the overall vibe of the fanbase.

I was poking fun at how negative Marwood got overall, mostly because I seem to recall him laughing at others when they over reacted in the past.

Namaste noble defender of the masses.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 23 @ 2:22 AM ET
I don’t think Gardiner settles for less than 6 years in this market
- Nucker101


He's 29 in a few days, so if he did 5 years, he could potentially squeeze one last contact when 34.

Just a thought.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 23 @ 2:23 AM ET
It might be better to sign Gardiner 2 x8.8 or 3x8 and tell him when Edlers contract is up we can do another deal.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 23 @ 2:24 AM ET
It might be better to sign Gardiner 2 x8.8 or 3x8 and tell him when Edlers contract is up we can do another deal.
- VANTEL


I like it.
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