It might be better to sign Gardiner 2 x8.8 or 3x8 and tell him when Edlers contract is up we can do another deal.
- VANTEL

Our GM is Jim Benning

He’s not greasy/creative like that

I like it.
- dbot

That will give Edler his 15 years with the club and Gardiner can then settle into a 4 x6 to finish his career here.

Our GM is Jim Benning

He’s not greasy/creative like that
- Nucker101

His contracts have been good for the last two years.

His contracts have been good for the last two years.
- VANTEL

What you’re taking about is a whole different animal

What you’re taking about is a whole different animal
- Nucker101

Shades of Sundin-ish.

Shades of Sundin-ish.
- dbot

Benning and cap circumvention is basically like Lefty and salads


It’s just not gonna happen

What you’re taking about is a whole different animal
- Nucker101

The old bastard is learning. He said today the asking price for a Dman trade was too high and he did stand tall against Edler.

Brackett said today we will continue to find Dmen from college NCAA. Actually a very smart way. Cheap and they have maturity.

The old bastard is learning. He said today the asking price for a Dman trade was too high and he did stand tall against Edler.

Brackett said today we will continue to find Dmen from college NCAA. Actually a very smart way. Cheap and they have maturity.
- VANTEL

He’s not going to break any rules, he’s just not that type of a guy

The old bastard is learning. He said today the asking price for a Dman trade was too high and he did stand tall against Edler.

Brackett said today we will continue to find Dmen from college NCAA. Actually a very smart way. Cheap and they have maturity.
- VANTEL

Friedman suggested that Canucks were in the running for Subban, as were TML and a mystery team.
Apparently all of those 3 teams wanted Nsh to retain salary and only the NJD were willing to take him on at full cost.
But beyond the salary, the cost of acquiring Subban was pretty minimal.
Fringe player, prospect and 2 x 2nd rounders.

I think we could have afforded Subban's salary, and this is not dissimilar to your suggestion of Gardiner for 3 years/8m, i think Subban would be 3 years/9m.

Plus Subban is a RHD.

Benning and cap circumvention is basically like Lefty and salads


It’s just not gonna happen
- Nucker101

You don't know that. These tier two free agents need to find a team that has the cap space and secondly wants to commit big money for many years. I don't think there are too many willing takers.

He’s not going to break any rules, he’s just not that type of a guy
- Nucker101

Break what rules ? signing Gardiner for two years is not breaking any rules.

You don't know that. These tier two free agents need to find a team that has the cap space and secondly wants to commit big money for many years. I don't think there are too many willing takers.
- VANTEL

Hey, if you think he’ll do it then more power to you. I would love to be wrong here but everything I’ve heard/seen from him suggests a straightforward GM.

Friedman suggested that Canucks were in the running for Subban, as were TML and a mystery team.
Apparently all of those 3 teams wanted Nsh to retain salary and only the NJD were willing to take him on at full cost.
But beyond the salary, the cost of acquiring Subban was pretty minimal.
Fringe player, prospect and 2 x 2nd rounders.

I think we could have afforded Subban's salary, and this is not dissimilar to your suggestion of Gardiner for 3 years/8m, i think Subban would be 3 years/9m.

Plus Subban is a RHD.
- dbot

Not a Subban fan.

Break what rules ? signing Gardiner for two years is not breaking any rules.
- VANTEL

Promising him a 2nd contract with exact terms is cap circumvention, otherwise why would the NHL have a rule against heavily frontloading contracts?

Hey, if you think he’ll do it then more power to you. I would love to be wrong here but everything I’ve heard/seen from him suggests a straightforward GM.
- Nucker101

I have a feeling we are talking two different things. What is wrong with signing a two year deal?

Not a Subban fan.
- VANTEL

fair enough.

Just saying if they didn't want to pull the trigger on Subban and his contract, it's unlikely that they'll offer that to Gardiner.

Promising him a 2nd contract with exact terms is cap circumvention, otherwise why would the NHL have a rule against heavily frontloading contracts?
- Nucker101

It is not front loading anything . There is no promised 2 nd contract. You are just telling him when Edler is gone we can look at another contract . That is not a promise.

It might be better to sign Gardiner 2 x8.8 or 3x8 and tell him when Edlers contract is up we can do another deal.
- VANTEL

Creative beats some of the smart ass posts some provide. Workable 👍

I have a feeling we are talking two different things. What is wrong with signing a two year deal?
- VANTEL

My view:


a 2 year deal is fine, but Gardiner laughs at it.

The part you're suggesting about promising a 2nd contract is not technically legal in the NHL. Even if you think it is or if you think the NHL won;'t find out, I believe that Benning won't even think about it doing it in the first place.

Him learning how to sign players to more reasonable contracts and him learning how to be greasy are 2 very different things.

Benning and cap circumvention is basically like Lefty and salads


It’s just not gonna happen
- Nucker101

😂😂

fair enough.

Just saying if they didn't want to pull the trigger on Subban and his contract, it's unlikely that they'll offer that to Gardiner.
- dbot

Subban brings a lot of attraction off the ice and his points are going downwards.

It is not front loading anything . There is no promised 2 nd contract. You are just telling him when Edler is gone we can look at another contract . That is not a promise.
- VANTEL

okay, my bad then I did misunderstand you.


but to answer, I think he's says thanks for the dinner, Jim, cya later.

Subban brings a lot of attraction off the ice and his points are going downwards.
- VANTEL

Agreed, he's no longer in his prime.

My view:


a 2 year deal is fine, but Gardiner laughs at it.

The part you're suggesting about promising a 2nd contract is not technically legal in the NHL. Even if you think it is or if you think the NHL won;'t find out, I believe that Benning won't even think about it doing it in the first place.

Him learning how to sign players to more reasonable contracts and him learning how to be greasy are 2 very different things.
- Nucker101

2 years 8 .8 mil or 3 years 8

2 years 8 .8 mil or 3 years 8
- VANTEL

I think he'd prefer going for 6 or 7 years at 7M-7.5M, less stress about having to perform and get another contract. Plus he's secure in case of a a serious injury or sharp decline.

I think he'll get it from someone.