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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 23 @ 12:37 PM ET
Leafs just overpaid Matthews on a 5y deal..
Dubas then overpaid Johnsson.

- MaximusAurelius

Yeah no.

Again. Strongly disagree with you as per usual.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 23 @ 12:42 PM ET
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 23 @ 12:43 PM ET
Leafs just overpaid Matthews on a 5y deal..
Dubas then overpaid Johnsson.

- MaximusAurelius



Yeah no.

He overpaid Matthews and Johnson by $50.00 over the length of a 4-5 yr deal, that means he should overpay marner by $3mil (or more)


If our gm ate paint and wore a helmet he couldn't do worse than what you're proposing
paulozz
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jun 23 @ 12:43 PM ET
Hey MiB how about a new blog.
Feedback on draft picks & what's
the latest on trade possibilities
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 23 @ 12:45 PM ET
"we can and we will"
best GM ever..

- MaximusAurelius



And if/when he does?

I'm sure that won't shut you up though.... He hired a woman so he's a terrible gm.


Bring back Lou to overpay everyone
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jun 23 @ 12:45 PM ET
Yeah no.

He overpaid Matthews and Johnson by $50.00 over the length of a 4-5 yr deal, that means he should overpay marner by $3mil (or more)


If our gm ate paint and wore a helmet he couldn't do worse than what you're proposing

- burn


i am not blaming you for not understanding how this works.
A matthews contract of 13mln AAV for 8 years would have been way better for the Leafs than his current 11.634 AAV on 5 years. it's an overpayment by Dubas. the 5 year deal should have been around 10mln AAV.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 23 @ 12:46 PM ET
i am not blaming you for not understanding how this works.
A matthews contract of 13mln AAV for 8 years would have been way better for the Leafs than his current 11.634 AAV on 5 years. it's an overpayment by Dubas. the 5 year deal should have been around 10mln AAV.

- MaximusAurelius


meh.

marner has the worst agent in the league. no need to settle. his clients always cave. he looks stupid with empty threat after empty threat.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jun 23 @ 12:47 PM ET
Wait a minute, now Johnson is overpaid? LOL
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jun 23 @ 12:52 PM ET
On an 8 year deal, Matthews is worth 13mln AAV.
Marner 12mln AAV.

on a 5 year deal, Matthews signs at 11.6.
So Marner should come in somewhere between 10.5-10.9 AAV on a 5y deal.
Leafs are offering 10-11mln AAV on a 8 year deal.
quite obvious why Marner is looking at offersheets.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 23 @ 1:04 PM ET
i am not blaming you for not understanding how this works.
A matthews contract of 13mln AAV for 8 years would have been way better for the Leafs than his current 11.634 AAV on 5 years. it's an overpayment by Dubas. the 5 year deal should have been around 10mln AAV.

- MaximusAurelius



mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Jun 23 @ 1:04 PM ET
Leafs just overpaid Matthews on a 5y deal..
Dubas then overpaid Johnsson.

- MaximusAurelius

You do realize that Johnson scored 20 goals and had 43 points in 73 gp getting just over 13 min of ice time. And that was with being stuck on the 4th line for a significant portion of the season hence the 13 min of ice time. His deal is decent and so is kapanens...if they are legit.

But go on let's trade him and Kadri for faksa and hintz. You probably loved the Steen for stempniaak deal too when it happened
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 23 @ 1:05 PM ET
On an 8 year deal, Matthews is worth 13mln AAV.
Marner 12mln AAV.

on a 5 year deal, Matthews signs at 11.6.
So Marner should come in somewhere between 10.5-10.9 AAV on a 5y deal.
Leafs are offering 10-11mln AAV on a 8 year deal.
quite obvious why Marner is looking at offersheets.

- MaximusAurelius


Brutal.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 23 @ 1:06 PM ET
You do realize that Johnson scored 20 goals and had 43 points in 73 gp getting just over 13 min of ice time. And that was with being stuck on the 4th line for a significant portion of the season hence the 13 min of ice time. His deal is decent and so is kapanens...if they are legit.

But go on let's trade him and Kadri for faksa and hintz. You probably loved the Steen for stempniaak deal too when it happened

- mykokes



Boom
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Jun 23 @ 1:13 PM ET
Boom
- burn

I'll give Max credit for predicting how good marner would be and by what age while others laughed at him, namely dozzer, but he really has to get over his anti nylander and Johnson shtick and proposing deals for inferior players. And his whole anti dubas shtick is just as bad. Dubas is aa big part of Keefe being in the organization, and why we have signed guys like Moore. While the Matthews deal may be too much for too little term, he is still the franchise. No matter how much Mitch thinks he is.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jun 23 @ 1:14 PM ET
On an 8 year deal, Matthews is worth 13mln AAV.
Marner 12mln AAV.

on a 5 year deal, Matthews signs at 11.6.
So Marner should come in somewhere between 10.5-10.9 AAV on a 5y deal.
Leafs are offering 10-11mln AAV on a 8 year deal.
quite obvious why Marner is looking at offersheets.

- MaximusAurelius



mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Jun 23 @ 1:15 PM ET
And before you say anything max, I do know how good faksa and hintz are....and I would take Kadri over faksa and Johnson over hintz in a heartbeat.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jun 23 @ 1:19 PM ET
You do realize that Johnson scored 20 goals and had 43 points in 73 gp getting just over 13 min of ice time. And that was with being stuck on the 4th line for a significant portion of the season hence the 13 min of ice time. His deal is decent and so is kapanens...if they are legit.

But go on let's trade him and Kadri for faksa and hintz. You probably loved the Steen for stempniaak deal too when it happened

- mykokes


he is 24y old and just managed to crack the NHL roster.
Hintz is better than Johnsson by far.
And I would take Faksa over Kadri for sure - Faksa is a guy that is capable of winning a Selke award - one of the best 2 way C-men in league (Bergeron-Couturier-O'Rielly-Barkov and then Faksa in a group with Kopitar and Toews).
And that's not even taking into account the capspace created by such a trade.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jun 23 @ 1:22 PM ET
And before you say anything max, I do know how good faksa and hintz are....and I would take Kadri over faksa and Johnson over hintz in a heartbeat.
- mykokes


We have different preferences - and I wouldn't argue you over the Johnsson vs. Hintz (even if I feel strongly about Hintz being by far the superior player).

I do think you would have to look a bit more into Faksa though - the guy is an elite 2 way forward - employed heavily in a defensive way.
He could be a poor man's Couturier (meaning 20-30 points less with equal defensive abilities) at a way inferior AAV.
Hardbalz
Joined: 06.08.2011

Jun 23 @ 1:23 PM ET
A late first? Wouldn't be cashing that idea just yet. Let's see what Kyle does for the rearguard position with all that recovered cap space. Then Leaf prospects for the upcoming season will be more defined
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 23 @ 1:24 PM ET
I'll give Max credit for predicting how good marner would be and by what age while others laughed at him, namely dozzer, but he really has to get over his anti nylander and Johnson shtick and proposing deals for inferior players. And his whole anti dubas shtick is just as bad. Dubas is aa big part of Keefe being in the organization, and why we have signed guys like Moore. While the Matthews deal may be too much for too little term, he is still the franchise. No matter how much Mitch thinks he is.
- mykokes


All of this.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 23 @ 1:25 PM ET
he is 24y old and just managed to crack the NHL roster.
Hintz is better than Johnsson by far.
And I would take Faksa over Kadri for sure - Faksa is a guy that is capable of winning a Selke award - one of the best 2 way C-men in league (Bergeron-Couturier-O'Rielly-Barkov and then Faksa in a group with Kopitar and Toews).
And that's not even taking into account the capspace created by such a trade.

- MaximusAurelius


Shut the (frank) up. Omg
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jun 23 @ 1:26 PM ET
he is 24y old and just managed to crack the NHL roster.
Hintz is better than Johnsson by far.
And I would take Faksa over Kadri for sure - Faksa is a guy that is capable of winning a Selke award - one of the best 2 way C-men in league (Bergeron-Couturier-O'Rielly-Barkov and then Faksa in a group with Kopitar and Toews).
And that's not even taking into account the capspace created by such a trade.

- MaximusAurelius


Faska will be a 26 year old RFA next year, he makes 2.2 and his top season of 33 points would make him a fourth line centre on the Leafs. To suggest he is even remotely close to Kadri is ridiculous. Put down that jug of Rioja down.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 23 @ 1:28 PM ET
Faska will be a 26 year old RFA next year, he makes 2.2 and his top season of 33 points would make him a fourth line centre on the Leafs. To suggest he is even remotely close to Kadri is ridiculous. Put down that jug of Rioja down.
- winsix



He's a guy that is employed Ina defensive role( same as kadri) but produces wwaaaay less than kadri.

But Faksa is better.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jun 23 @ 1:30 PM ET
Faska will be a 26 year old RFA next year, he makes 2.2 and his top season of 33 points would make him a fourth line centre on the Leafs. To suggest he is even remotely close to Kadri is ridiculous. Put down that jug of Rioja down.
- winsix


you clearly haven't seen him playing enough.
FYI - 2018 selke votes: https://twitter.com/Stars...tatus/1009604136508280833
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jun 23 @ 1:32 PM ET
He's a guy that is employed Ina defensive role( same as kadri) but produces wwaaaay less than kadri.

But Faksa is better.

- burn


Kadri on a great deal, thirty goals twice, decent on faceoffs, reasonably good defensively, meanwhile JT Miller is traded with a much worse contract, produced way less on the leagues top offensive team but got Tampa a good first (maybe a lotto pick) Plus. But we should trade Kadri for a journeyman bum that is under control for one year.
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