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riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 23 @ 6:27 PM ET
Hawks doctors suck! Two years of "I'm dizzy I don't know where I'm at" and they couldn't figure out he had MS until after he's traded? Bet McD went apepoop on that! They would have LTIR'd him and saved Tevo.
- rpeters01

Thank you for clarifying this Dr Peters.
gifman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Gifland
Joined: 09.17.2015

Jun 23 @ 6:30 PM ET
I’ll go out on a limb and say Vlasic has a better career than Byram.
- Ogilthorpe2


The way Dach pickpocketed Byram and he just stood there while Dach scored, yeah I can see that happening.
scottak
Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley!
Joined: 08.06.2010

Jun 23 @ 6:30 PM ET
I saw Slavin a couple of times after he was traded to the Steel. Nice game, another big strong wing, was not afraid to take the puck to the net and did it often.

I believe he’ll be a freshman at Colorado College this fall. Probably at least a year away from signing.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jun 23 @ 6:32 PM ET
Thank you for clarifying this Dr Peters.
- riozzo

Right? If only they’d know sooner, they could’ve gotten him antibiotics sooner.
Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

Jun 23 @ 6:37 PM ET
Right? If only they’d know sooner, they could’ve gotten him antibiotics sooner.
- Ogilthorpe2

Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL
Joined: 07.27.2009

Jun 23 @ 6:43 PM ET
Hawks doctors suck! Two years of "I'm dizzy I don't know where I'm at" and they couldn't figure out he had MS until after he's traded? Bet McD went apepoop on that! They would have LTIR'd him and saved Tevo.
- rpeters01


Pretty unfair claim. MS is one of the most difficult disorders to definitively diagnose as no two people experience the same symptoms.

Complicate that with a potentially legit initial diagnosis of post concussion syndrome, and you see why it took so long.

Disastrous outcome all around. Had Bickell been healthy he was the Hawks’ true power forward. Losing him was a big hole that never got filled.
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jun 23 @ 6:45 PM ET
I’ll go out on a limb and say the Blackhawks make no trades with any of the so-called cap hell teams.
- gifman


I’ll go out on a limb and say they sign one of their UFA’s.
scottak
Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley!
Joined: 08.06.2010

Jun 23 @ 6:49 PM ET
Hypothetically Dach makes the team, nice looking Top 6 of

Dach-Toews-Kane

Saad-Strome-Debrincat

Or do you go with a big boy line like the Hawks did with Saad-Toes-Hossa, and have that line be: Saad-Toews-Dach, and Dach plays his more comfortable right wing.

Then you have a 2nd line of Debrincat-Strome-Kane. Interesting because you have your best passer fedeing your best sniper.

All hinges if Dach makes the roster, agreed no rush, sometimes fun to speculate though.

- ChicagoHope

You split up Toews and Kane because pairing them makes JT worse on defensive zone starts. Plus, as you mention, it puts Kane with DCat and sets up 88 with a sniper like he had with Panarin.
gabriel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: West Lafayette, IN
Joined: 02.02.2013

Jun 23 @ 7:11 PM ET
Yes, and he played well for Dallas during the playoffs. If the term/$ was good, could be a good fit for the Hawks.
- Chief4Feathers


Would look great on the second power play unit. Appears to be a fan favorite and enjoyed playing in large citywith the Rags. Wonder what he's looking for in terms of dollars? He'd wear the Indian Head with pride. No doubts, whatsoever.
4_in_7
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jun 23 @ 7:12 PM ET
Q is soo close infact. He is likely right there if you are willing to give him a real start in the NHL. He is loud and infectious in a good way so he should be immediately liked and also he has some leadership qualities from captaining a few good Wheatkings teams. He also isnt afraid to stand up for a team mate or himself but he wont be going out looking for it ever.
- Devilish4

Plus, he's a future replacement for Colliton.
TrueGrit
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: FL
Joined: 07.19.2011

Jun 23 @ 7:33 PM ET
Just a question for the group after hearing the rumored wild bill numbers in Vegas.
Do these teams with no state income tax have a huge advantage? Should there be a weighted salary cap?

- Boisy12





Are you serious? This is a free country. The cap is the same for every team. Just in some states there are higher taxes that players must pay. But those are the states the are run the best...utopias....
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jun 23 @ 7:34 PM ET
Hawks doctors suck! Two years of "I'm dizzy I don't know where I'm at" and they couldn't figure out he had MS until after he's traded? Bet McD went apepoop on that! They would have LTIR'd him and saved Tevo.
- rpeters01

Ms is extremely difficult to diagnose have friend who has it took doctors a long time to figure out what was wrong had similar syptoms as bickell.
Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Jun 23 @ 7:40 PM ET
Wiz: thanks so much for the underappreciated work you do on the draft. It's not underappreciated by me!

Tyler: thanks to you as well for making this blog lively and fun for all of us Hawks fans.

- Cmonalready


You're welcome! I enjoy it. Thanks for reading and contributing.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Jun 23 @ 7:40 PM ET
I’ll go out on a limb and say Vlasic has a better career than Byram.
- Ogilthorpe2



Boisy12
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Plainfield, IL
Joined: 05.01.2009

Jun 23 @ 7:51 PM ET


Are you serious? This is a free country. The cap is the same for every team. Just in some states there are higher taxes that players must pay. But those are the states the are run the best...utopias....

- TrueGrit


Yup totally serious. I don’t know what a free country has anything to do with it. These teams in so called undesirable markets (Winnipeg, Buffalo) have a tough enough time luring free agents and teams is FL, NV and others have a tax advantage. In theory they can pay a player less than another team which generates more cap space.
I really don’t care that much, was just curious how big the advantage is.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 23 @ 8:04 PM ET
Well, that was an...interesting backread.

learned. there is cap space and real cap space. one or more doctors post on this site. Pronman's grade on the draft means everything. Saad, AA and Keith are unproductive.
Essentially all their guys are better than our guys

Did I forget anything?
Beaver-Warrior
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: in my great and unmatched wisdom
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jun 23 @ 8:09 PM ET
Well, that was an...interesting backread.

learned. there is cap space and real cap space. one or more doctors post on this site. Pronman's grade on the draft means everything. Saad, AA and Keith are unproductive.
Essentially all their guys are better than our guys

Did I forget anything?

- Elbows15


It's never too early to call a player a bust.
scott.jackson
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Georgian Bluffs, ON
Joined: 06.24.2014

Jun 23 @ 8:09 PM ET
Yup totally serious. I don’t know what a free country has anything to do with it. These teams in so called undesirable markets (Winnipeg, Buffalo) have a tough enough time luring free agents and teams is FL, NV and others have a tax advantage. In theory they can pay a player less than another team which generates more cap space.
I really don’t care that much, was just curious how big the advantage is.

- Boisy12


I think the exact same way. It is a disadvantage to teams that have a higher state tax than others.

Time to bring in the luxury tax like baseball. I dont think it's fair when a fan pays $200 a seat to sit at the glass but a low market team has a fan sitting at the glass for $100. The higher market teams lose players to the lower market teams because of the salary cap and the fans are paying double to watch there team play.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 23 @ 8:14 PM ET
It's never too early to call a player a bust.
- Beaver-Warrior

Duly noted.
AusHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Melbourne
Joined: 11.25.2015

Jun 23 @ 8:35 PM ET
Well, that was an...interesting backread.

learned. there is cap space and real cap space. one or more doctors post on this site. Pronman's grade on the draft means everything. Saad, AA and Keith are unproductive.
Essentially all their guys are better than our guys

Did I forget anything?

- Elbows15


Stan is either an idiot, or a genius, or both.
Anyone who doesn't get in fights is useless.
*AND*
Every trade is going to be massively skewed in the hawks favour.

Think thats about it
Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

Jun 23 @ 8:38 PM ET


Are you serious? This is a free country. The cap is the same for every team. Just in some states there are higher taxes that players must pay. But those are the states the are run the best...utopias....

- TrueGrit


Hey Grit, just stopping by in the middle of your flat earth convention?
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jun 23 @ 8:38 PM ET
Yup totally serious. I don’t know what a free country has anything to do with it. These teams in so called undesirable markets (Winnipeg, Buffalo) have a tough enough time luring free agents and teams is FL, NV and others have a tax advantage. In theory they can pay a player less than another team which generates more cap space.
I really don’t care that much, was just curious how big the advantage is.

- Boisy12


Another interesting factoid, players get paid in American dollars, even players playing in Canada.
Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

Jun 23 @ 8:44 PM ET
I think the exact same way. It is a disadvantage to teams that have a higher state tax than others.

Time to bring in the luxury tax like baseball. I dont think it's fair when a fan pays $200 a seat to sit at the glass but a low market team has a fan sitting at the glass for $100. The higher market teams lose players to the lower market teams because of the salary cap and the fans are paying double to watch there team play.

- scott.jackson


On a related note, I was thinking that there may be some advantage to having a compensatory pick awarded to the team that loses a UFA to another team signing them - similar to MLB and NBA. The NHLPA might not like the idea as it could dampen UFA demand - but it would help teams keep or at least recoup something in losing a player.
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jun 23 @ 8:44 PM ET
Tomorrow at 11 AM, the @NHLBlackhawks will welcome @kdach77 to Chicago on @NBCSChicago!

TUNE IN or STREAM with the #MyTeams App at bit.ly/2Kxg2RI
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 23 @ 8:58 PM ET
Tomorrow at 11 AM, the @NHLBlackhawks will welcome @kdach77 to Chicago on @NBCSChicago!

TUNE IN or STREAM with the #MyTeams App at bit.ly/2Kxg2RI

- walleyeb1


Dach is certainly an exciting addition to the team. Hopefully they don’t rush him into the NHL.
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