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TommyGTrain
New York Rangers
Location: Part of NJ where its Taylor Ham not pork roll
Joined: 05.19.2017

Jun 25 @ 9:28 PM ET
Having watched Zubov play many times throughout his career, I cannot believe he is a Hall of Famer!
Good player for sure, but HOF?? Just don't see it...
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Jun 25 @ 9:30 PM ET
In case you were wondering what Chris Higgins is up to these days

https://www.instagram.com...SoU/?igshid=17brjkh8j2ms6

- rangerdanger94

Comments are gold.
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 25 @ 9:32 PM ET
I agree, as per my just posted reply to you on Kreider, with the Rangers in effect, having very few players currently signed after these next two seasons.
- RangerSaver


As per Brooks, does NYR have to sign Kreider if Panarin goes elsewhere? I don't think Kreider is worth 7+mill per for 6/7 years. He can be traded, and then sign lesser FAs for short term...is that so bad? It's a much more methodical and prudent route..no?
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Jun 25 @ 9:32 PM ET
Having watched Zubov play many times throughout his career, I cannot believe he is a Hall of Famer!
Good player for sure, but HOF?? Just don't see it...

- TommyGTrain


He has 700 career points as a defensemen. He scored about 90 points in our cup year. I stand by my earlier post he was criminally underrated
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Jun 25 @ 9:33 PM ET
As per Brooks, does NYR have to sign Kreider if Panarin goes elsewhere? I don't think Kreider is worth 7+mill per for 6/7 years. He can be traded, and then sign lesser FAs for short term...is that so bad? It's a much more methodical and prudent route..no?
- rrentz


I’d sign CK for 4 years, maybe 5 if push come to shove. I’m with you though, 7 years could be scary
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Jun 25 @ 9:35 PM ET
One year left on Hoffmans contract. Maybe he plays well and we deal him at the deadline...

I trust Hank’s (and Marc Staal’s )control of the locker room

- Bean_Dip

Missing out on Panarain, I wouldn't mind 1 year of Hoffman, minus the crazy GF. female dog stays in Florida.
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Jun 25 @ 9:38 PM ET
As per Brooks, does NYR have to sign Kreider if Panarin goes elsewhere? I don't think Kreider is worth 7+mill per for 6/7 years. He can be traded, and then sign lesser FAs for short term...is that so bad? It's a much more methodical and prudent route..no?
- rrentz

7x7 is a lot. As much as I like Kreider, well, not as much as others ,
I don't think he is worth that much, maybe 6x5.
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Jun 25 @ 9:40 PM ET
7x7 is a lot. As much as I like Kreider, well, not as much as others ,
I don't think he is worth that much, maybe 6x5.

- Fenrir


The term scares me the most. I know I’d try to go under 7, but in a world where Hayes is getting over 7, I don’t think it’s an enormous stretch if he got that. Plus, you got another season of people resetting the market before the contract is signed.
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 25 @ 9:41 PM ET
7x7 is a lot. As much as I like Kreider, well, not as much as others ,
I don't think he is worth that much, maybe 6x5.

- Fenrir


I'd take 6x5, but not sure if he's do that. I can see him wanting Hayes contract. Hayes is center, so Kreider should be a bit less
TommyGTrain
New York Rangers
Location: Part of NJ where its Taylor Ham not pork roll
Joined: 05.19.2017

Jun 25 @ 9:42 PM ET
He has 700 career points as a defensemen. He scored about 90 points in our cup year. I stand by my earlier post he was criminally underrated
- 2sticks1puck



Absolutely --- his season with the Rangers in 1994 was fantastic! Never approached that type of season again. Averaged approx. 45 pts/year for rest of his career. Very good, but HOF worthy?? Agree to disagree here...
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Jun 25 @ 9:48 PM ET
Absolutely --- his season with the Rangers in 1994 was fantastic! Never approached that type of season again. Averaged approx. 45 pts/year for rest of his career. Very good, but HOF worthy?? Agree to disagree here...
- TommyGTrain


He got those 45-50 pts a year in a mainly defensive era. When the post lockout era started, he put up 70 pts.

Ps look up Niedermayer and Borques stats during the late 90s, guess they weren’t HOF either 😉
Bean_Dip
New York Rangers
Location: Bean Town, MA
Joined: 09.30.2015

Jun 25 @ 9:56 PM ET
The term scares me the most. I know I’d try to go under 7, but in a world where Hayes is getting over 7, I don’t think it’s an enormous stretch if he got that. Plus, you got another season of people resetting the market before the contract is signed.
- 2sticks1puck

Yeah but Willie K just got low balled by the Knights. The league knows how dumb the Hayes contract is.
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Jun 25 @ 9:57 PM ET
Yeah but Willie K just got low balled by the Knights. The league knows how dumb the Hayes contract is.
- Bean_Dip


I think will needs a new agent. That was an insane underpayment
TommyGTrain
New York Rangers
Location: Part of NJ where its Taylor Ham not pork roll
Joined: 05.19.2017

Jun 25 @ 9:59 PM ET
He got those 45-50 pts a year in a mainly defensive era. When the post lockout era started, he put up 70 pts.

Ps look up Niedermayer and Borques stats during the late 90s, guess they weren’t HOF either 😉

- 2sticks1puck



You really want to compare Bourques' stats ( which were better BTW ) to Zubov's in the late 1990s? You realize Bourque was a full TEN YEARS older and still outplaying him?
Please don't let facts get in the way of a good story.
And if you think Zubov was in the same class defensively as Niedermayer, I really have nothing more to say --- I really have to question your knowledge of hockey. Sorry mate.
We can just agree to disagree.
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 25 @ 10:00 PM ET
I think will needs a new agent. That was an insane underpayment
- 2sticks1puck



He could have gave them home town discount ala Zuuk knowing their cap situation. He did drop pt total 20 pts this year as well after that one killer season
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Jun 25 @ 10:11 PM ET
You really want to compare Bourques' stats ( which were better BTW ) to Zubov's in the late 1990s? You realize Bourque was a full TEN YEARS older and still outplaying him?
Please don't let facts get in the way of a good story.
And if you think Zubov was in the same class defensively as Niedermayer, I really have nothing more to say --- I really have to question your knowledge of hockey. Sorry mate.
We can just agree to disagree.

- TommyGTrain

Bourque was older but Zubov was outplaying him. Niedermayer offensive numbers were pretty paltry. Plenty of seasons in the 30s. We can agree to disagree but you are selling Zubov wayyyyyyy short.
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Jun 25 @ 10:12 PM ET
He could have gave them home town discount ala Zuuk knowing their cap situation. He did drop pt total 20 pts this year as well after that one killer season
- rrentz


It’s possible. 50 pts is nothing to sneeze at though.
TommyGTrain
New York Rangers
Location: Part of NJ where its Taylor Ham not pork roll
Joined: 05.19.2017

Jun 25 @ 10:18 PM ET
Bourque was older but Zubov was outplaying him. Niedermayer offensive numbers were pretty paltry. Plenty of seasons in the 30s. We can agree to disagree but you are selling Zubov wayyyyyyy short.
- 2sticks1puck



Well the jokes on me because he is a HOFer. Just very surprising to me.
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 25 @ 10:22 PM ET
It’s possible. 50 pts is nothing to sneeze at though.
- 2sticks1puck



No, but not as good as 73! Lol

nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 25 @ 10:30 PM ET
Yeah but Willie K just got low balled by the Knights. The league knows how dumb the Hayes contract is.
- Bean_Dip

He’s a 50-60 point player, I think what he got was fair, slight underpayment maybe. That 1 year was not the norm for him.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 25 @ 10:32 PM ET
No, but not as good as 73! Lol
- rrentz

78 haha even better
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 25 @ 10:40 PM ET
78 haha even better
- nyrangers9479



Oops.

You are right, jerk. Lol
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 25 @ 10:41 PM ET
Oops.

You are right, jerk. Lol

- rrentz

I mean......that’s nothing new 😂
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 25 @ 10:45 PM ET
I mean......that’s nothing new 😂
- nyrangers9479


I just like these shorter responses from you
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 25 @ 10:51 PM ET
I just like these shorter responses from you
- rrentz

Miller > Nam ..... doing better?
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