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Hi friends. Just back from a visit with my friend Ryan Callahan who unfortunately has had to hang the skates due to numerous injuries received while busting his ass for the Rangers and their fans. But that’s what hockey players do.
Why in Gods name was it necessary for Sather to be at the draft and part of the cadre announcing the Rangers pick. It seems that even with the arrival of JD as team president, and the more than competent Jeff Gorton as GM, they need parental supervision. Hopefully, it was just a goodbye last hoorah.
With regard the possible free agant signing of Paranin. I don’t think the timing is quite right. Although the trade for Trouba which was a no brainer would seem to signal an acceleration of the rebuild, the team is still 3 years away from contending. Committing almost 20 million dollars to him and a 38 year old goalie makes little sense. IMHO.
The accumulation of young talent is certainly a positive path the organization has taken, I feel they should continue the rebuild, they were fun to watch last year, should be a bit better this year.
Play nice in the sandbox y’all. - OLDSCHOOL#6
Staal, Shattenkirk, Smith, and Lundqvist's contracts all expiring at the same time will be glorious in 2 years. Assuming none are bought out. |
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jimbro83
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Disagree about Panarin. Very rare a player of his caliber becomes a UFA. He has only played 4 seasons and missed I think like 6 games. Its like getting a young 20 yr old. - mdw7413
100% agreed
and not to mention, a mentor for our young Russians, absolutely no brainer |
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100% agreed
and not to mention, a mentor for our young Russians, absolutely no brainer - jimbro83
Unfortunately after getting brought up to speed about our cap situation I don’t know if it’s realistic |
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Unfortunately after getting brought up to speed about our cap situation I don’t know if it’s realistic - rangerdanger94
they can go 10% over the cap until opening night
sign Panarin July 1st, then figure it out
use the 2nd buyout window in August if they must |
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Panarin still an 80 plus point player regardless of only 30 goals. I do see your point tho around the contracts in the future - nyrangers2
Like I said, you are short sighted. Signing Panarin now will not get us closer to the Cup. Lets face facts here. The prospects we have drafted in the last 3 years need at least 3 to 4 years to develop. IF they develop into high end talent as we hope, they will need to get paid also. Panarin will sign a 7 yr deal. in 4 yrs he will be 32. Im not saying he will be washed up, but hockey players decline after 30, not all but most. Why would you want to sign a player now to have him help us compete when he is 32? He will be wasting his years while we finish the rebuild. So when the Rangers will have to start paying players like Kakko, who we hope will be as good as Marner, he will be looking for that 11mil per deal too.
The Leafs just gave away a first round pick and a player cause of their Cap hell. They got nothing in return. Do you want to be Toronto??
People say Panarins arent always available, thats true but he is and nobody saw that coming, we dont know who the next "Panarin" will be in a few years.
Lets stay out of cap hell. Lets see what prospects develop and in 3 or 4 years plug the holes with a free agent signing. |
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Hi friends. Just back from a visit with my friend Ryan Callahan who unfortunately has had to hang the skates due to numerous injuries received while busting his ass for the Rangers and their fans. But that’s what hockey players do.
Why in Gods name was it necessary for Sather to be at the draft and part of the cadre announcing the Rangers pick. It seems that even with the arrival of JD as team president, and the more than competent Jeff Gorton as GM, they need parental supervision. Hopefully, it was just a goodbye last hoorah.
With regard the possible free agant signing of Paranin. I don’t think the timing is quite right. Although the trade for Trouba which was a no brainer would seem to signal an acceleration of the rebuild, the team is still 3 years away from contending. Committing almost 20 million dollars to him and a 38 year old goalie makes little sense. IMHO.
The accumulation of young talent is certainly a positive path the organization has taken, I feel they should continue the rebuild, they were fun to watch last year, should be a bit better this year.
Play nice in the sandbox y’all. - OLDSCHOOL#6
Name dropping on us all.
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jimbro83
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Like I said, you are short sighted. Signing Panarin now will not get us closer to the Cup. Lets face facts here. The prospects we have drafted in the last 3 years need at least 3 to 4 years to develop. IF they develop into high end talent as we hope, they will need to get paid also. Panarin will sign a 7 yr deal. in 4 yrs he will be 32. Im not saying he will be washed up, but hockey players decline after 30, not all but most. Why would you want to sign a player now to have him help us compete when he is 32? He will be wasting his years while we finish the rebuild. So when the Rangers will have to start paying players like Kakko, who we hope will be as good as Marner, he will be looking for that 11mil per deal too.
The Leafs just gave away a first round pick and a player cause of their Cap hell. They got nothing in return. Do you want to be Toronto??
People say Panarins arent always available, thats true but he is and nobody saw that coming, we dont know who the next "Panarin" will be in a few years.
Lets stay out of cap hell. Lets see what prospects develop and in 3 or 4 years plug the holes with a free agent signing. - Brukie
in three years, the cap is expected to explode. There is talk of a new TV deal by then that will blow the old one away.
sign Panarin now, he's pretty much a 23 year old in terms of NHL miles on him |
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B2B76
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they can go 10% over the cap until opening night
sign Panarin July 1st, then figure it out
use the 2nd buyout window in August if they must - jimbro83
I understand the theory that this could be short sighted but for a player like Panarin I would go for it and we can work it out, like the Beatles said ya know bruh |
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they can go 10% over the cap until opening night
sign Panarin July 1st, then figure it out
use the 2nd buyout window in August if they must - jimbro83
Where is the money? Need buyouts and trades. Too complicated! |
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Brukie
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Name dropping on us all.
- B2B76
Ah good ole hickeybuzz, glad to see nothing changes!
Quoting the incomparable Paul Harvey, “good day”. |
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Like I said, you are short sighted. Signing Panarin now will not get us closer to the Cup. Lets face facts here. The prospects we have drafted in the last 3 years need at least 3 to 4 years to develop. IF they develop into high end talent as we hope, they will need to get paid also. Panarin will sign a 7 yr deal. in 4 yrs he will be 32. Im not saying he will be washed up, but hockey players decline after 30, not all but most. Why would you want to sign a player now to have him help us compete when he is 32? He will be wasting his years while we finish the rebuild. So when the Rangers will have to start paying players like Kakko, who we hope will be as good as Marner, he will be looking for that 11mil per deal too.
The Leafs just gave away a first round pick and a player cause of their Cap hell. They got nothing in return. Do you want to be Toronto??
People say Panarins arent always available, thats true but he is and nobody saw that coming, we dont know who the next "Panarin" will be in a few years.
Lets stay out of cap hell. Lets see what prospects develop and in 3 or 4 years plug the holes with a free agent signing. - Brukie
I don’t think 32 is necessarily too old of an age for a key piece to help us contend. People obsess over having players in their early to mid 20s but all these teams that make cup runs have veterans in their 30s.
Bruins keep contending with Marchand, Bergeron, Kreijci, Chara. Sharks keep contending with Thornton, Pavelski, Burns, Vlasic. We had Richards and MSL when we made the finals in 2014. |
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B2B76
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Ah good ole hickeybuzz, glad to see nothing changes!
Quoting the incomparable Paul Harvey, “good day”. - OLDSCHOOL#6
Love Ya OS |
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Brukie
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in three years, the cap is expected to explode. There is talk of a new TV deal by then that will blow the old one away.
sign Panarin now, he's pretty much a 23 year old in terms of NHL miles on him - jimbro83
Just like the cap was suppose to be 83mil and now its suppose to be lower. Dont count on anything.
How you can say he is a 23 yo is pretty funny. Thats alsmot 5 years off his age. He is going to be 28. Im sorry I cant agree with you on that. |
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Wouldn’t taking Marleau pretty much eliminate us from the Panarin sweepstakes? - rangerdanger94
Sorry I’m bit slow on the reply. Trying to get all the yard work done this weekend. I’m basically trying to cut the grass to the dirt so when we are sizzling next weekend it won’t need cutting.
Anyway, I doubt if marleau gets bought out, he’d want a contract much over the league minimum. Probably knows no one will give it to him and he’d already be making money from the buyout. I don’t see it swinging either way on whether we got Panarin or not.
I hate that I feel this way, but I think we are in trouble in our efforts to get Panarin. The cap coming that low hurts a lot. We either need to get super aggressive clearing cap right now, or just accept that we aren’t getting him and make other plans. I’m not even sure at this point if targeting a W Karlsson or Aho is realistic in the current situation. |
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B2B76
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21peter
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I met Scott Lachance & Marty McInnis once in the Massepequa mall, true story - B2B76
pics? |
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B2B76
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pics? - 21peter
1995 /96 I think it was, they were casually strolling around Sears. Here I am a die hard Ranger fan seemingly the only one recognizing them. |
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Brukie
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I don’t think 32 is necessarily too old of an age for a key piece to help us contend. People obsess over having players in their early to mid 20s but all these teams that make cup runs have veterans in their 30s.
Bruins keep contending with Marchand, Bergeron, Kreijci, Chara. Sharks keep contending with Thornton, Pavelski, Burns, Vlasic. We had Richards and MSL when we made the finals in 2014. - rangerdanger94
You are completely right. But These players have been together for years. They came up and gelled together while adding younger players as they went along. They didnt add a veteran piece until they were ready to compete. St Louis added ROR, who they stole from the Sabres!!
We just stole Trouba from the Jets!!
The Devils stole PK from the Preds!!
There will always be something to do when the time comes.
What Im saying is let our prospects develop. In 3 or 4 years when our prospects have a few years and we know what we have, then we sign the free agents who will help us then. That free agent we sig Panarin will not help us do anything in the next few years so why bother signing him and wasting the cap space. |
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jimbro83
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You are completely right. But These players have been together for years. They came up and gelled together while adding younger players as they went along. They didnt add a veteran piece until they were ready to compete. St Louis added ROR, who they stole from the Sabres!!
We just stole Trouba from the Jets!!
The Devils stole PK from the Preds!!
There will always be something to do when the time comes.
What Im saying is let our prospects develop. In 3 or 4 years when our prospects have a few years and we know what we have, then we sign the free agents who will help us then. That free agent we sig Panarin will not help us do anything in the next few years so why bother signing him and wasting the cap space. - Brukie
so when it's time to pay Kakko and Kravtov 11 million, you then want to go out and sign a free agent for 11 million at the same time?
wouldn't it be a great time to sign an 11 million dollar guy while those two are on entry level contracts? |
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jimbro83
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Just like the cap was suppose to be 83mil and now its suppose to be lower. Dont count on anything.
How you can say he is a 23 yo is pretty funny. Thats alsmot 5 years off his age. He is going to be 28. Im sorry I cant agree with you on that. - Brukie
Panarin has played 4 NHL seasons
he's a baby, he's got the NHL MILEAGE of a 23 year old |
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You are completely right. But These players have been together for years. They came up and gelled together while adding younger players as they went along. They didnt add a veteran piece until they were ready to compete. St Louis added ROR, who they stole from the Sabres!!
We just stole Trouba from the Jets!!
The Devils stole PK from the Preds!!
There will always be something to do when the time comes.
What Im saying is let our prospects develop. In 3 or 4 years when our prospects have a few years and we know what we have, then we sign the free agents who will help us then. That free agent we sig Panarin will not help us do anything in the next few years so why bother signing him and wasting the cap space. - Brukie
I think the idea is he helps you in 2-3 years. One thing I agree 100% with Jimbro on is that we are probably going to have to win while most of our guys are cheap. If Kakko and Kravtsov are the real deal, they are going to make serious money in 3 years. You want to load up now while they are on their ELCs.
Otherwise I’m with you on aligning guys with our guys growing up. It’s why I’ve been on the Marner/Point bandwagon. I think that ship has sailed though
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