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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 24 @ 10:57 PM ET
Next years UFA hor d’ourves...

Old with a smattering of tid bits

https://www.capfriendly.com/browse/free-agents

Roster manoeuvring for the e-draft will drag signings.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 24 @ 11:04 PM ET
Yes. Cap is more valuable. Any UFA signing has to be a winner or a big waste.
- Nighthawk


I like Myers, but the winner won't be VAN with the price they'll pay.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 24 @ 11:15 PM ET
I like Myers, but the winner won't be VAN with the price they'll pay.
- VanHockeyGuy

Oh you watch.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 24 @ 11:16 PM ET
Oh you watch.
- Marwood


i know
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 24 @ 11:29 PM ET
I like Myers, but the winner won't be VAN with the price they'll pay.
- VanHockeyGuy

His cost isn’t a solution for us. Rather play our prospects & the cap for something else or another day.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 24 @ 11:54 PM ET
Acquiring another top 6 forward will push down another forward to play with Gaudette.

Plus future push from Pod, Hoglander, Madden, Lind, Gadjovich, ZMac, etc.

Or add 2 forwards like Gusev and Ferland and suddenly the forward group looks very deep and talented. Entire top 6 would have 20 goal talents and the bottom 6 would be filled with 10+ goal potential forwards. A recipe for contender status.

- Nucker101

A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 24 @ 11:56 PM ET
Oh you watch.
- Marwood

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 24 @ 11:58 PM ET
My thumbs need a break getting hoarse
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 25 @ 12:34 AM ET
We need another top 4 dman.
Don’t want to see Hutton there.
Still would like to move Hutton and Tanev.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jun 25 @ 12:55 AM ET
He held Elder to 2 years but Benning was holding all the cards there.
- A_SteamingLombardi


I can’t count Edler getting a reasonable contract as a win, he still gave an aging defenseman big cash and a no-move, we’ve just been numbed by such bad contracts that we feel good when we give one for slightly above market value. It isn’t like Benning got a hometown discount
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jun 25 @ 1:01 AM ET
I'm not sure what he has ever had as an organizational strength.
- manvanfan


Cap space and an owner who has been willing to spend money. I’d even give credit to his drafting/scouting, all could’ve been used in some capacity to get them further than where they are. The result is mediocrity
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 25 @ 1:04 AM ET
it's pretty tight this year unless Sven can be dumped off somewhere.

Would open up more next year with Spooner gone, and potentially Tanev gone, plus cap going up a bit.


The LE contract as usual is killing the dream

- Nucker101


I heard the cap is set for the next TWO years, don’t think it goes up again until 21-22 season
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 25 @ 1:27 AM ET
I heard the cap is set for the next TWO years, don’t think it goes up again until 21-22 season
- 1970vintage

How can that be without knowing next seasons revenues?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 25 @ 1:30 AM ET
How can that be without knowing next seasons revenues?
- Nighthawk


Dunno. Someone was talking (radio maybe?) about the cap being set for two years. At a lower level, so the escrow $ were lower too (players keep more of their money) maybe I’m wrong, but that doesn’t happen very often.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 25 @ 1:33 AM ET
Dunno. Someone was talking (radio maybe?) about the cap being set for two years. At a lower level, so the escrow $ were lower too (players keep more of their money) maybe I’m wrong, but that doesn’t happen very often.
- 1970vintage

Sounds like a mutual discussion was done to do that. Players hate the escrow & maybe the e-draft & new tv deal are factors.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 25 @ 1:34 AM ET
Cap problems just got dicier for some teams.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 25 @ 1:51 AM ET
Sounds like a mutual discussion was done to do that. Players hate the escrow & maybe the e-draft & new tv deal are factors.
- Nighthawk


I can’t find anything to corroborate. The basis of the conversation was about a lower than expected salary cap, then the new TV contract in the US providing a bump in year three.

Maybe I’m mental...
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 25 @ 1:53 AM ET
I can’t find anything to corroborate. The basis of the conversation was about a lower than expected salary cap, then the new TV contract in the US providing a bump in year three.

Maybe I’m mental...

- 1970vintage

Maybe
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 25 @ 2:13 AM ET
We need another top 4 dman.
Don’t want to see Hutton there.
Still would like to move Hutton and Tanev.

- dbot

Moving Tanev is counterproductive without getting another RHD. Hard enough already to get one without moving him.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 25 @ 2:56 AM ET
Tanev/Sutter retain 50% for Barrie
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 25 @ 3:27 AM ET
Tanev/Sutter retain 50% for Barrie
- Nighthawk

😂
Literally just said above not to move Tanev and then traded him the next post.

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

But I’d totally do that trade.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 25 @ 4:03 AM ET
😂
Literally just said above not to move Tanev and then traded him the next post.

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

But I’d totally do that trade.

- dbot


1st domino & Got a RHD back is key
LHD Gardiner 28yrs 5/6.5m

Edler Barrie
Hughes Stetcher
Gardiner Rafferty
Sautner Schenn

PP1: Barrie Hughes
PP2: Edler Gardiner
PK: Edler Stetcher/Rafferty

Highly mobile high octane adventure

Edit:
Use 4.8m cap leaves 13m for Brock etc
- 22 players signed without Boeser.
Buried LE Spooner Schaller
Released Granlund Hutton Biega
Signed Goldy Leivo Motte Teves Rafferty
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 25 @ 4:25 AM ET
1st domino & Got a RHD back is key
LHD Gardiner 28yrs 5/6.5m

Edler Barrie
Hughes Stetcher
Gardiner Rafferty
Sautner Schenn

Highly mobile high octane adventure

- Nighthawk


I'd like Barrie, but I think if a deal was going to get done, it'd be done.
Maybe he'll sign next year?
Not a fan of 3 shorties (Barrie, Stetcher and Hughes) in the top 4.
And that 2nd line of Hughes and Stetcher looks soft as butter.
Mobile yes, but I feel like they'd be chewed up on D and i don't see Stecher as seasoned enough to support Quinn, who as much as we expect to be a messiah, is a rookie.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 25 @ 4:28 AM ET
I'd like Barrie, but I think if a deal was going to get done, it'd be done.
Maybe he'll sign next year?
Not a fan of 3 shorties (Barrie, Stetcher and Hughes) in the top 4.
And that 2nd line of Hughes and Stetcher looks soft as butter.
Mobile yes, but I feel like they'd be chewed up on D and i don't see Stecher as seasoned enough to support Quinn, who as much as we expect to be a messiah, is a rookie.

- dbot


Ok

Stetcher for JP

JTM EP Boeser
Pearson Bo JP
-Sven Bo JP
-Pearson Bo JV
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 25 @ 4:46 AM ET
Ok

Stetcher for JP

JTM EP Boeser
Pearson Bo JP
-Sven Bo JP
-Pearson Bo JV

- Nighthawk



Magic wand time:

Miller-Pettersson-Boeser
Ferland-Bo-JV
Pearson-Gaudette-Pulijarvi
Rousell-Beagle-Brown
Leivo-Motte-Goldobin

Edler-Zaitsev
Saunter-Barrie
Hughes-Schenn
OJ-Rafferty

Ferland signed as UFA 5/5
Barrie traded for Tanev and Sven.
Stetcher traded for Pulijarvi and a 3rd.
3rd flipped to TML for Zaitsev and Brown.
Sutter flipped for a 4th.
Hutton dumped, Spooner to Utica.
Eriksson comes down with an allergy to his equipment.
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