I agree, miller for say borgman, a 2nd and maybe another spare marlie might do it. They don't want any salary back.

PK went for meh because NJ was the only team willing to eat the entire salary. The deal with the Leafs would have been for $2.5 to $3 M cap retained.
- winsix

where did you hear there was a deal in place for him to come to the leafs?
What details?

i am curious to know your solution
- senstroll

He should have traded him to Arizona for a 4th and Borgman.


**that'll be the narrative next summer from those that just don't like the guy.

He should have traded him to Arizona for a 4th and Borgman.


**that'll be the narrative next summer from those that just don't like the guy.
- The Law

Why would Arizona do that?

where did you hear there was a deal in place for him to come to the leafs?
What details?
- Fakepartofme

winsix is an insider now

i am curious to know your solution
- senstroll

should have had the training staff switch his jock with one of hossa's.

where did you hear there was a deal in place for him to come to the leafs?
What details?
- Fakepartofme

What I heard was Johnsson and a pick for Subban and $2.5 Million retained - heard it on NHL network Radio.

the thing is, Zeitsev is a much better option for a lot less

But I assume some of the GMs thing TM is the TM for 10 years ago who won the Calder?

cuz he is not good now
- senstroll

Myers has been slow and broken for years now. But people see big righty and go blind to all else.

Why would Arizona do that?
- PatC80

did you miss my *

winsix is an insider now
- Symba007

Name says it all, only had to wait 3 years for the Raps to come through, now time for the Shanaplan to make magic.

winsix is an insider now
- Symba007

Chris Johnson just said 4 teams were "in it" and the Leafs were one of them. Also said Devils were the only ones willing to absorb all 9 milly.

did you miss my *
- The Law

My bad.

At the draft, Dubas was talking to every GM and their assistants.. It wasn't for lack of effort. The Marleau deal had to be made. It basically allowed us to re-sign Kap and Johnsson.

It’s not even July 1st yet.
- Steven_Seagull

Hence.

"As it stands"

What I heard was Johnsson and a pick for Subban and $2.5 Million retained - heard it on NHL network Radio.
- winsix

oh ya?
Hmmm.
Pk at 6.5m per......

Interesting.

Myers has been slow and broken for years now. But people see big righty and go blind to all else.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Agree, hard pass. LV has to make some moves, forget the UFAs for Leafs. Let Vancouver have at it - JT Miller deal puts Benning up there in the Chia pet category of GM's (honorable mention to Duh rion)

Born Saturday night. 8:31 PM, Central Time. 5 lbs 15 ozs. Aurora Lynn.
- bixll

Congrats Bix!

was it kypreos who reported the marleau, brogram and a 5th to arizona for a 4th trade?

dubas really should have done that trade vs. the carolina one tbh imho

It really was. Who signs a 38 year old for 3 years?
- BestRapperAlive

I really wonder if Lou had a plan for year 3.

was it kypreos who reported the marleau, brogram and a 5th to arizona for a 4th trade?

dubas really should have done that trade vs. the carolina one tbh imho
- Tumbleweed

I had that job in college.

I really wonder if Lou had a plan for year 3.
- Atomic Wedgie

This may not have been his exact plan and it may not have helped with year 3 of Marleau's deal.....but it looks cool and it should have been.

It wasn't great...
- AdamFrench

If you're Dubas you think the team has a shot at the conference finals - or further - that's 28-31

You can't get the shot without freeing up cap space to sign everyone we know needs signing + find a top 4 D

Maybe there was a better deal out there but honestly, this is a top 5 NHL team guys stop crying over late first round picks.

If you're Dubas you think the team has a shot at the conference finals - or further - that's 28-31

You can't get the shot without freeing up cap space to sign everyone we know needs signing + find a top 4 D

Maybe there was a better deal out there but honestly, this is a top 5 NHL team guys stop crying over late first round picks.
- Mr_Smokey

If you're Dubas you think the team has a shot at the conference finals - or further - that's 28-31

You can't get the shot without freeing up cap space to sign everyone we know needs signing + find a top 4 D

Maybe there was a better deal out there but honestly, this is a top 5 NHL team guys stop crying over late first round picks.
- Mr_Smokey

Top5 team last year doesnt guarantee a repeat next year.

This may not have been his exact plan and it may not have helped with year 3 of Marleau's deal.....but it looks cool and it should have been.


- Fakepartofme

the thing is, Zeitsev is a much better option for a lot less

But I assume some of the GMs think TM is the TM for 10 years ago who won the Calder?

cuz he is not good now
- senstroll

HEZ EIGHT FUT TALL AND LIKE CHARA YOU IDIOTA

i am curious to know your solution
- senstroll

I love the "get creative" part with no solutions offered up.

Retire? Can't because 35+ contract
Trade him to any team with space? Can't since NMC
Retain salary in deal? Can't, player has NMC + need the full cap space

It all really boiled down to Dubas had to pay a hefty price to move this along.

Only way to save it was to convince Benning that Marleau was better than Miller.