What report? The opposite is what has been said; he doesn't want 8 years.

Odds are he wants 11.6 x 5.
- JohnFergusonJr

If it turns out that that is what he wants, then that's even more ridiculous.

They can.

Just not all of them.
- JohnFergusonJr

I wish our stars sucked ass and/or were mediocre and signed binding deals to make them look great 3 years later.

If it turns out that that is what he wants, then that's even more ridiculous.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Burke said on sportsnet today the number he turned down was 10x8

13x7 compared to 11x7 would be close to 14mil no?
- Puck-us-all

Depends who you believe.

Also depends on how that cash would have been paid out.

Leafs put a lot of it upfront.

Sharks might not have done that.

Depends who you believe.

Also depends on how that cash would have been paid out.

Leafs put a lot of it upfront.

Sharks might not have done that.
- JohnFergusonJr

Up front or not it’s still turning down a (frank) ton of money .. which never happens right?

Wow. De Haan didn't last long in Carolina.

Hayes brought up a great point.

Marner can’t use Matthews comparable with the rest of the league.

If it turns out that that is what he wants, then that's even more ridiculous.
- GreatGigInTheSky

It's not ridiculous because A) he's worth it and B) that's how negotiation works. Both sides start at one number and settle somewhere in the middle.

Wow. De Haan didn't last long in Carolina.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Dundon only wants forwards.

I wish our stars sucked ass and/or were mediocre and signed binding deals to make them look great 3 years later.
- AdamFrench

Should have put them all in the AHL for 1 year and tanked it one more time and stretch that ELC out one more year.

Would have won the Calder Cup a lot earlier too.

It's not ridiculous because A) he's worth it and B) that's how negotiation works. Both sides start at one number and settle somewhere in the middle.
- JohnFergusonJr

It only works like that when it works like that.

You do this way too much man.

Up front or not it’s still turning down a (frank) ton of money .. which never happens right?
- Puck-us-all

Not really because if he gets enough of that money up front he can manage it in a certain to keep more of it and start to profit off it immediately by investing it.

I am not even sure I believe Friedman and this whole idea of Marner being upset.

How can say they will talk to teams about offersheets and then turn around and be upset when Dubas says the Leafs might not match.

Anyway, I am sure most of this is not Marner. It is Ferris and his dad. At some point Marner himself is going to have to put them in their place.

Also, they may think Dubas is a soft touch and will cave. I firmly believe at this point that Shanahan has a say in this and I don't think he is quite so soft. This is why I don't believe Dubas' job is on the line over this. He will be backed by Shanahan over something this significant.

It only works like that when it works like that.

You do this way too much man.
- Santo_44

Being too accurate hurts your head?

Being too accurate hurts your head?
- JohnFergusonJr

You wonder why 95% of people disagree with you on here.




“Leafs in 5”

I am not even sure I believe Friedman and this whole idea of Marner being upset.

How can say they will talk to teams about offersheets and then turn around and be upset when Dubas says the Leafs might not match.

Anyway, I am sure most of this is not Marner. It is Ferris and his dad. At some point Marner himself is going to have to put them in their place.

Also, they may think Dubas is a soft touch and will cave. I firmly believe at this point that Shanahan has a say in this and I don't think he is quite so soft. This is why I don't believe Dubas' job is on the line over this. He will be backed by Shanahan over something this significant.
- Aetherial

The Leafs can’t afford Marner at 11.

No contending team should sign him to that much. Overpaying is a bad idea and I believe dubas would trade him if it really came to it.

If it turns out that that is what he wants, then that's even more ridiculous.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Agreed. Marner should not get the same deal as Matthews. If he does, it's a fail on Dubas.

Not really because if he gets enough of that money up front he can manage it in a certain to keep more of it and start to profit off it immediately by investing it.
- JohnFergusonJr

The (frank)?

That’s the most retarded counterpoint I’ve ever heard.. I feel dumber now having read that.. you should be ashamed

He turned down more money so he get get some money sooner so he could invest it and maybe make more money?!?!

I am not even sure I believe Friedman and this whole idea of Marner being upset.

How can say they will talk to teams about offersheets and then turn around and be upset when Dubas says the Leafs might not match.

Anyway, I am sure most of this is not Marner. It is Ferris and his dad. At some point Marner himself is going to have to put them in their place.

Also, they may think Dubas is a soft touch and will cave. I firmly believe at this point that Shanahan has a say in this and I don't think he is quite so soft. This is why I don't believe Dubas' job is on the line over this. He will be backed by Shanahan over something this significant.
- Aetherial

Marner atm

You wonder why 95% of people disagree with you on here.




“Leafs in 5”
- Santo_44

Yeah, that's how you win Hockeybuzz, getting people like you to agree with me.

Yeah, that's how you win Hockeybuzz, getting people like you to agree with me.


- JohnFergusonJr

Yep. You are smarter than everyone on here.

There is no way everyone else is wrong.


Keep going we all could use some more laughs.

It's not ridiculous because A) he's worth it and B) that's how negotiation works. Both sides start at one number and settle somewhere in the middle.
- JohnFergusonJr

Leafs should be starting at $6 million, then. If the sides want to be ridiculous in negotiations.

Work their way into each other and get actual fair value there.

Marner atm


- AdamFrench

It's not ridiculous because A) he's worth it and B) that's how negotiation works. Both sides start at one number and settle somewhere in the middle.
- JohnFergusonJr

A) but he's not.
B) start at a reasonable number and don't threaten to sign an offer sheet

Dundon only wants forwards.
- AdamFrench

I'm still hopeful we can get Pesce.