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Steven_Seagull
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 24 @ 1:17 PM ET
It really was. Who signs a 38 year old for 3 years?
- BestRapperAlive



A 70 year old.
Steven_Seagull
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 24 @ 1:18 PM ET
He seems overly stubborn, which I'm not sure is a great thing in this day's NHL.
- RickJames77



I blame Dubas
Mr_Smokey
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.02.2008

Jun 24 @ 1:18 PM ET
Kind of redundant. If our pick is top 10, something has gone horribly horribly wrong
- BestRapperAlive


Prudent move of any GM to protect a 1st round pick traded before the season starts. Lots of unknowns.
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Jun 24 @ 1:18 PM ET
Kind of redundant. If our pick is top 10, something has gone horribly horribly wrong
- BestRapperAlive


That's what Burkie said.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Split rock, Nipigon River., ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jun 24 @ 1:18 PM ET
I blame Dubas
- Steven_Seagull

Dubas wife
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jun 24 @ 1:19 PM ET
It was a horrible trade. But protecting it was smart.
- DrunkenCanuck


Should have kept him?
Mr_Smokey
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.02.2008

Jun 24 @ 1:21 PM ET
Should have kept him?
- The Law


Marleau trade was horrible? So says a moron I guess.

Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 24 @ 1:25 PM ET
Marleau trade was horrible? So says a moron I guess.
- Mr_Smokey

It wasn't great...
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 24 @ 1:26 PM ET
Should have kept him?
- The Law


I think its a decent bet.
You assume/hope the pick is say 24-31.

Thats the cost to Keep Marner, Nylander, Kap and Jonsson ...and assuming they can move NZ ..maybe add 1 other upgrade.

The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jun 24 @ 1:27 PM ET
It wasn't great...
- AdamFrench


It wasn't great to have had to make that trade ....

But, if the best and only opportunity to move Marleau's 6.25, was that deal ...then it was (frank)ing awesome.

..think of the alternative.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jun 24 @ 1:27 PM ET
vegas needs to move salary out. recent salary cap moves:

marleau + 1st

pk for pile of meh

braun for 2nd and 3rd

miller shouldn't cost much. i think a lot of gm's would be happy to let mcphee sweat this one out until june 30th after how he handled the expansion draft.

- Tumbleweed


I agree, miller for say borgman, a 2nd and maybe another spare marlie might do it. They don't want any salary back.

PK went for meh because NJ was the only team willing to eat the entire salary. The deal with the Leafs would have been for $2.5 to $3 M cap retained.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 24 @ 1:28 PM ET
wtf

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.@renlavoietva: I do believe Myers will be a 7 year contract. it could be $8 million per season. $6 million might be a bit low. GM's are looking at the cap being lower and demand for young players - could be less money spent in FA but there's a lot of demand for defensemen.


I would put the regret factor over/under at 1.5 years

and would bet the under
DrunkenCanuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Check your PM, ON
Joined: 07.14.2009

Jun 24 @ 1:33 PM ET
Should have kept him?
- The Law


I don’t think that would have worked either if Patty wanted to go, but why panic and trade a first round pick? Get creative.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jun 24 @ 1:34 PM ET
VAR in soccer is as useless as NHL and MLB review.

Official makes bad call, they review it, and still come out with the same bad call.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Jun 24 @ 1:36 PM ET
wtf


I would put the regret factor over/under at 1.5 years

and would bet the under

- senstroll


Wow, that's awful. Thank (frank) it won't be the Leafs.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jun 24 @ 1:38 PM ET
I don’t think that would have worked either if Patty wanted to go, but why panic and trade a first round pick? Get creative.
- DrunkenCanuck


C'mon man. The Leafs HAD to move him. If they had him on the roster they'd have to had moved multiple young talented forwards. There was no option.

And to trade him ...it HAD to be to a team willing to buy him out. The buy out window ends June 30th.

So we should assume that Dubas canvassed the whole league and there were probably only 2 or 3 teams with the ability to buy him out and eat the 6.25 in cap space.

And we should assume that he took the best deal possible.

It sucks that it cost a first to get rid of a guy's contract ...but, lesson learned is don't (frank) around with those 35+ contracts. I like Lou but that one's on Lou.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 24 @ 1:39 PM ET
Marleau trade was horrible? So says a moron I guess.
- Mr_Smokey



Agreed..

Dubas played the percentages, a draft pick late in the 1st rd, likely doesn't go on to be a superstar.. It was a move he had to make.. It didn't cost us a roster player or one of our better prospects. It's somewhat lottery protected, and there was no salary retained.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 24 @ 1:40 PM ET
I don’t think that would have worked either if Patty wanted to go, but why panic and trade a first round pick? Get creative.
- DrunkenCanuck


i am curious to know your solution
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 24 @ 1:40 PM ET
It wasn't great to have had to make that trade ....

But, if the best and only opportunity to move Marleau's 6.25, was that deal ...then it was (frank)ing awesome.

..think of the alternative.

- The Law

Pretty much.

You could also think of it as the leafs traded a 1st rounder for marleau on a 2 year deal. It’s probably a later 1st rounder then it would’ve been when they got him.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jun 24 @ 1:40 PM ET
It’s not even July 1st yet.
- Steven_Seagull

Agreed.

Should be interesting like I said.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 24 @ 1:41 PM ET
I agree, miller for say borgman, a 2nd and maybe another spare marlie might do it. They don't want any salary back.

PK went for meh because NJ was the only team willing to eat the entire salary. The deal with the Leafs would have been for $2.5 to $3 M cap retained.

- winsix



Agreed. I had read that it was down to 3 teams, (Leafs being one of them) but only NJ would take on the full $9M
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 24 @ 1:41 PM ET
wtf


I would put the regret factor over/under at 1.5 years

and would bet the under

- senstroll

Glad the leafs dont have any money to spend.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 24 @ 1:42 PM ET
i am curious to know your solution
- senstroll


I'm sure he'll give you a one-sided solution.. Cause every other team in the league wants to help the Leafs.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 24 @ 1:42 PM ET
I blame Dubas
- Steven_Seagull

Easy there Adolph, manchild should not be blamed
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 24 @ 1:42 PM ET
Wow, that's awful. Thank (frank) it won't be the Leafs.
- GreatGigInTheSky


the thing is, Zeitsev is a much better option for a lot less

But I assume some of the GMs think TM is the TM for 10 years ago who won the Calder?

cuz he is not good now
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