You said "if an offer sheet comes" as if Marner had already signed one.

Can they trade him still?

Like, for example, the Islanders give Marner what he wants and he signs it.

Can the Leafs trade him to Columbus and let them decide whether they match it or not?
- JohnFergusonJr

If an offer sheet comes in, and Marner hasn't signed it yet, the Leafs can work out a deal, hopefully..

I can type slower if you like?

If he signs an offer sheet, he can go (frank) his hat!
- bobbyisno1

Fixed.

If an offer sheet comes in, and Marner hasn't signed it yet, the Leafs can work out a deal, hopefully..

I can type slower if you like?
- PatC80

Type faster but be more condescending.

First bolded: No he didn't.

Second bolded: Matthews is the best even strength goal scorer in the league.
- GreatGigInTheSky

K.

If McDavid signs a 12.5 x 8 deal, Matthews had better sign for 8 years at 11.5.

K.

If McDavid signs a 12.5 x 8 deal, Matthews had better sign for 8 years at 11.5.
- aminnes

In Matthews case, wasn't it being reported that he was using a percentage of the cap?
Not an actual dollar number?

If an offer sheet comes in, and Marner hasn't signed it yet, the Leafs can work out a deal, hopefully..

I can type slower if you like?
- PatC80

Ya I guess they could potentially trade his rights then that team could match the offer sheet.

In Matthews case, wasn't it being reported that he was using a percentage of the cap?
Not an actual dollar number?
- PatC80

Maybe. Don't really care. Either way, the fact the club was willing to go to within a million of the best player in the world and he wasn't signing for 8 years on that deal is pretty sad. McDavid gave Edmonton 8 years, even with how many issues they have. Matthews signed for 5 when he is on a good team.

If an offer sheet comes in, and Marner hasn't signed it yet, the Leafs can work out a deal, hopefully..

I can type slower if you like?
- PatC80

i still don't see an offer sheet coming. it's all empty threats / marner's agent pretending to speak for other teams.

I just don't think there is a team out there:
i) with +$10M in cap space
ii) with a stocked up prospect pool (so they can sacrifice 4 1sts)
iii) flush with cash so they can pay $12M bonus this july; and
iv) that is a marner away from being a SC contender.

Ya I guess they could potentially trade his rights then that team could match the offer sheet.
- bryant

I agree. I can't see anywhere where it says that a player having received an offer sheet may not be traded.

There are two periods I see: (1) If the team matches the offer sheet, the player may not be traded for a full calendar year; (2) A player who has filed for, and is pending arbitration may not be traded until after the hearing.

A player who is pending arbitration can still receive an offer sheet, which is a little unusual.

i still don't see an offer sheet coming. it's all empty threats / marner's agent pretending to speak for other teams.

I just don't think there is a team out there:
i) with +$10M in cap space
ii) with a stocked up prospect pool (so they can sacrifice 4 1sts)
iii) flush with cash so they can pay $12M bonus this july; and
iv) that is a marner away from being a SC contender.
- Tumbleweed

I don't see Marner signing an offer sheet, but I don't doubt that one or more, will be sent his way.

If an offer sheet does come, we can trade him to Columbus..

Zaitsev and Marner for Jones, Savard and Josh Anderson
- PatC80

Please get it right if you are stealing my proposal......

Zaitsev Nylander and Kadri
for
Jenner Savard and Anderson

Saves almost 7m too 👍

I agree. I can't see anywhere where it says that a player having received an offer sheet may not be traded.

There are two periods I see: (1) If the team matches the offer sheet, the player may not be traded for a full calendar year; (2) A player who has filed for, and is pending arbitration may not be traded until after the hearing.

A player who is pending arbitration can still receive an offer sheet, which is a little unusual.
- Monkeypunk

The thinking is/was, a team offers a contract to Marner..
Dubas then tells Marner, that if he really wants to accept the offer to hold off on signing it.
Then Dubas works out a trade with that team. If they work out a deal, Marner is traded for players/picks. If not, Marner can sign the offer sheet (assuming he wants to) and the Leafs get the draft picks.

Please get it right if you are stealing my proposal......

Zaitsev Nylander and Kadri
for
Jenner Savard and Anderson

Saves almost 7m too 👍
- mr.sir

That's a decent trade, but it doesn't include Seth Jones.

Yup. Try to have the most bullets for a crapshoot and make the most educated guesses you can
- Takemedrunkimhome

Your mixed metaphor is deeply disturbing.

Keep up the good work.

I don't see Marner signing an offer sheet, but I don't doubt that one or more, will be sent his way.
- PatC80

but from who?

The thinking is/was, a team offers a contract to Marner..
Dubas then tells Marner, that if he really wants to accept the offer to hold off on signing it.
Then Dubas works out a trade with that team. If they work out a deal, Marner is traded for players/picks. If not, Marner can sign the offer sheet (assuming he wants to) and the Leafs get the draft picks.
- PatC80

Sorry. I missed that context. Absolutely. That absolutely can happen, since it's basically what happened with Kessel.

Sorry. I missed that context. Absolutely. That absolutely can happen, since it's basically what happened with Kessel.
- Monkeypunk

Yes... Exactly my point.. We need to Brian Burke ourselves somehow.

but from who?
- Tumbleweed

New Jersey/Philly/Detroit/Who knows?

The thinking is/was, a team offers a contract to Marner..
Dubas then tells Marner, that if he really wants to accept the offer to hold off on signing it.
Then Dubas works out a trade with that team. If they work out a deal, Marner is traded for players/picks. If not, Marner can sign the offer sheet (assuming he wants to) and the Leafs get the draft picks.
- PatC80

You could also include another team as well.

Team 1 offer sheets (Dubas tells marner to hold off while they discuss it)

Team 2 Toronto tells them the offer sheet details and if they are willing to match. They then trade for marner and then when marner signs that offer sheet they match and get Marner.

Long shot but they could leverage it like that if there is more then 1 team interested.

Sorry. I missed that context. Absolutely. That absolutely can happen, since it's basically what happened with Kessel.
- Monkeypunk

Wasn't it Burke that didn't want to give him an offer sheet, even though it would have been a 1st, 2nd and a 3rd instead of two 1sts and a 2nd?

It also assumes the Leafs know what Marner's agent is doing. If they sign an offer sheet, can he still be traded during the period they have to match?

but from who?
- Tumbleweed

I don't see it happening either. But things have definitely soured when you see dubs switch his tune. Up to this point he has always defended the players and their being part of the future, to a fault really. Then he comes out and says he won't match. He did not meet with Ferris who was at the draft, which isn't altogether unheard of but is very unusual.

If no one offer sheets, this will be Nylander part 2. Except this time no Dermott, no Hymen, no real way to augment without knowing what's going on. It may come down to trading him in the end, because they can't have Marner sitting, period.

You could also include another team as well.

Team 1 offer sheets (Dubas tells marner to hold off while they discuss it)

Team 2 Toronto tells them the offer sheet details and if they are willing to match. They then trade for marner and then when marner signs that offer sheet they match and get Marner.

Long shot but they could leverage it like that if there is more then 1 team interested.
- bryant

Anyone buying this poop?

On 31 Thoughts, Elliot Friedman said Marner felt hurt by Dubas' "not matching any offer sheet" comments. Chris Johnston says that this is about respect, about rookie bonuses, and not getting enough ice time..

If I'm Dubas, I'd rather make a trade for Marner instead of 4 1st round picks.

But really - I'd rather trade away Nylander and Kadri than Marner (their combined salary is similar to Marner's new salary caphit and their combined return is close to 4 1st rounder as well (either in picks or player value)).

Better to keep 1 1st line player than 2 2nd liners imo.

Anyone buying this poop?

On 31 Thoughts, Elliot Friedman said Marner felt hurt by Dubas' "not matching any offer sheet" comments. Chris Johnston says that this is about respect, about rookie bonuses, and not getting enough ice time..
- PatC80

If this is true, anyone getting hurt about offers in the $10 million per year neighbourhood needs to man up and grow a pair.

FFS.

Wasn't it Burke that didn't want to give him an offer sheet, even though it would have been a 1st, 2nd and a 3rd instead of two 1sts and a 2nd?

It also assumes the Leafs know what Marner's agent is doing. If they sign an offer sheet, can he still be traded during the period they have to match?
- JohnFergusonJr

They can't if he signs it.. They have 7 days to match it, I think?