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mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Jun 24 @ 6:21 PM ET
Any update on Rasanen?
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Jun 24 @ 6:21 PM ET
You wouldn't, but it would be a great classic Richard move.

The rule isn't laid out clearly anywhere. It seems a little unusual that it would happen . . .but two clubs submit offer sheets to a player, and he signs with Club 'A', so you call Club 'B' and make a deal for him that perhaps contains players and picks that are more to your liking. Club 'B' would then have to match. If they didn't Club 'B' would receive the 4 1sts!

- Monkeypunk

I do believe you just described what happened with p hil kessel.
People forget Nashville put forth an offer sheet.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jun 24 @ 6:21 PM ET
faksa and hintz please.
crouse for 3rd line lw.
and friend ek is saying provorov + prospect for melander!
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Jun 24 @ 6:23 PM ET
I'm not debating that. I'm simply saying it appears that Marner's camp believed this to be unfair. Maybe they saw the way he was treated as not making the most of their investment while they saw others being treated differently.

Like just about every athlete, Nylander included, it is far better to not have your Dad involved with your contracts and demands. As a Dad, of course I would over analyze and be over the top with my kid. That's why agents are necessary in part.

- aminnes

Marner really has to get over this whole thing with Matthews. He was the (frank)ing first overall pick, is younger and has better career numbers while not getting to play with tavares.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 24 @ 6:24 PM ET
But he scored 9 more goals. But goals don’t matter more than assists. Until they do. But they don’t....
- Steven_Seagull

Yep.

I don’t get it.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Jun 24 @ 6:24 PM ET
faksa and hintz please.
crouse for 3rd line lw.
and friend ek is saying provorov + prospect for melander!

- MaximusAurelius

Let me know if you would like some Crouse young guns hockey cards

I must have at least 4 👎
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 24 @ 6:26 PM ET
Marner is proving to be far worst than Nylander in character. Trade Marner and make Nylander captain!
- Steven_Seagull


ewww, you're such a bird!!!!
Buck Norris
Joined: 07.03.2018

Jun 24 @ 6:28 PM ET
Maybe if the two dmen can put up 90 plus points.
Young superstars get paid, it is what it is.

- Fakepartofme


I know but put it this way. Would you trade Marner and brown for Hamilton,Pesce,Ferland and four firsts. I'm just useing these names as a reference. But hope people get the drift. Lol
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Jun 24 @ 6:30 PM ET
Marner really has to get over this whole thing with Matthews. He was the (frank)ing first overall pick, is younger and has better career numbers while not getting to play with tavares.
- mykokes


He seems like a good kid. They appear to be friends. He needs to get his dad out of there.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 24 @ 6:30 PM ET
I know but put it this way. Would you trade Marner and brown for Hamilton,Pesce,Ferland and four firsts. I'm just useing these names as a reference. But hope people get the drift. Lol
- Buck Norris


Except to get those D, we'd need to use the 4 1st rounders....so it woudn't be all that....unless those guys were UFA or something I guess. Not too many D like Hamilton Pesce are available to just sign for free I don't think?

*just throwing that out there, not trying to poop on your parade.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 24 @ 6:32 PM ET
Hopefully the cap drops in 5 years and these greedy sum female doges have to sign for less then what they could have got today.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 24 @ 6:35 PM ET
He did
- Fakepartofme


And he also sucked the bag after he came back too.
Buck Norris
Joined: 07.03.2018

Jun 24 @ 6:39 PM ET
Except to get those D, we'd need to use the 4 1st rounders....so it woudn't be all that....unless those guys were UFA or something I guess. Not too many D like Hamilton Pesce are available to just sign for free I don't think?

*just throwing that out there, not trying to poop on your parade.

- Garnie
.

I know I was just show what the equivalent of the cap hits. Its up to Dubas to figure out to do with extra 13 mill in cap
Steven_Seagull
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 24 @ 6:42 PM ET
Marner + Zaitsev for Jones + Anderson


Add picks/prospects to either side to make it even. Bye Greedy Mitchy.
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Jun 24 @ 6:42 PM ET
Cant wait for Marner to either sign an offer sheet or lose all his leverage when no one offers one. The second July 1st hits i would drop my offer by 1 million for hurting the teams chances to improve.
Steven_Seagull
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 24 @ 6:42 PM ET
ewww, you're such a bird!!!!
- Garnie



Thanks
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Jun 24 @ 6:44 PM ET
Marner + Zaitsev for Jones + Anderson


Add picks/prospects to either side to make it even. Bye Greedy Mitchy.

- Steven_Seagull

I dislike Matthews equally. We'd be in the same boat with him if Dubas didn't cave and give him everything he wanted. None of these guys care about winning.
Steven_Seagull
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 24 @ 6:44 PM ET
I dislike Matthews equally. We'd be in the same boat with him if Dubas didn't cave and give him everything he wanted. None of these guys care about winning.
- HealthyScratch6



You have been added to the trade. Enjoy the Jacket’s thread.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Jun 24 @ 6:47 PM ET
I dislike Matthews equally. We'd be in the same boat with him if Dubas didn't cave and give him everything he wanted. None of these guys care about winning.
- HealthyScratch6


I've been pretty shocked as well by this whole process. Not one dime has been left by any of them. It's sad.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 24 @ 6:49 PM ET
the agent. complaining publicly marner has been low-balled. blaming 4th line time, mono. saying they will look at offer sheets when it's a complete empty threat.

meanwhile, marleau makes a self-less act and waives his nmc for carolina; so dubas has the cap space to sign marner.

- Tumbleweed

A selfless act.
Jesus
He'll get bought outand sign on the west coast
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 24 @ 6:51 PM ET
I've been pretty shocked as well by this whole process. Not one dime has been left by any of them. It's sad.
- aminnes


NHL contracts are guaranteed.

Winning a Cup isn't.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 24 @ 6:52 PM ET
You guys just think it's one way or the other. With many issues pertaining to the Leafs. Nylander's dad - cool, Marner's dad - Richard. Nuance. Both are important. Just like Marner is important to JT, and JT is important to Marner. It's not all or nothing.

JT specifically said he was excited to play with a playmaker like AMrner, it was part of why he came to TO. He's dumb I guess.

- aminnes

Probably the same people who female doged at people who said the leafs would have cap issues this summer.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 24 @ 6:54 PM ET
I know but put it this way. Would you trade Marner and brown for Hamilton,Pesce,Ferland and four firsts. I'm just useing these names as a reference. But hope people get the drift. Lol
- Buck Norris

Uh?
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jun 24 @ 6:55 PM ET
Marner really has to get over this whole thing with Matthews. He was the (frank)ing first overall pick, is younger and has better career numbers while not getting to play with tavares.
- mykokes

Is that what marner said?
Did marner say publicly that he wants Matthews money?
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Jun 24 @ 6:55 PM ET
NHL contracts are guaranteed.

Winning a Cup isn't.

- JohnFergusonJr


One of the major flaws in the NHL system. Hard cap with guaranteed contracts. Dumb. That's why the offseasons have sucked pretty much since the cap came in, and why almost every time star players never get moved. Either go non guaranteed, or go the NBA luxury tax model. Much more fun and many more options for teams.
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