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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: If given the choice Sabreland, Duchene or Malkin?
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ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 24 @ 3:53 PM ET
That's the point of the cap

It's supposed to make it so any team can win the Cup

The last thing the NHL needs is a super team like Golden State to happen

- Stripes77


Yea the NBA is struggling so much right now with ratings and such because of that, right? Who is saying super teams anyways?

Teams are basically having to gut themselves just to keep 2-3 players.

The NHL salary cap is 15mm lower than the NBA and you play 15 more players per game.

There is no reason the cap is where it is today. It needs to go up.

Unless we want every team to be .500, because that sounds fun.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 24 @ 3:54 PM ET
Exactly. The salaries of star players and RFA's was too low for too long. There should be pressure on teams to keep things together. Better players should hit UFA and RFA's should be able to leverage offer sheets. It's great that some of these things are starting to fix themselves.
- Lunaion


I’m sure all Sabres fans will feel the same way once they have to trade 2-3 pieces away for pennies on the dollar just to keep Dahlin.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 24 @ 3:55 PM ET
not sure how high i'd go for a 27yr. old top-nine, 20-goal scorer with deficiencies on defense but $5m might be on the low side
- Michael Pachla


Considering the other deals in place, I'd probably extend to 5.25x4

Keeping the years at 4, 5 at the absolute top end, is more important than the AAV. God knows we could desperately use him
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 24 @ 3:57 PM ET
I’m sure all Sabres fans will feel the same way once they have to trade 2-3 pieces away for pennies on the dollar just to keep Dahlin.
- ImThatGuy


They should really consider planning for this in advance....
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 24 @ 3:58 PM ET
Easy, Malkin.

Duchene will have a brand new 8 year deal that’ll be worth around $10 mill Malkin has 3 years remaining and he’s making $9.5 mill and is all around more productive.

- Jammerz04[url]


Other than Risto or Mits we don't have anything that the Pens would want. They will want players and not picks. I bet we would have to send both to make it happen.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 24 @ 4:00 PM ET
They should really consider planning for this in advance....
- Lunaion


IE don’t sign anyone to try and get better.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 24 @ 4:01 PM ET
Yea the NBA is struggling so much right now with ratings and such because of that, right? Who is saying super teams anyways?

Teams are basically having to gut themselves just to keep 2-3 players.

The NHL salary cap is 15mm lower than the NBA and you play 15 more players per game.

There is no reason the cap is where it is today. It needs to go up.

Unless we want every team to be .500, because that sounds fun.

- ImThatGuy



An NBA game is 48 mins long and their starters play 38 mins of those games...
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 24 @ 4:06 PM ET
Yea the NBA is struggling so much right now with ratings and such because of that, right? Who is saying super teams anyways?

Teams are basically having to gut themselves just to keep 2-3 players.

The NHL salary cap is 15mm lower than the NBA and you play 15 more players per game.

There is no reason the cap is where it is today. It needs to go up.

Unless we want every team to be .500, because that sounds fun.

- ImThatGuy


Are you watching the same league as everyone else?
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jun 24 @ 4:18 PM ET
This is about the time someone should go on a rant about how terrible this organization is.
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jun 24 @ 4:22 PM ET
I’m sure all Sabres fans will feel the same way once they have to trade 2-3 pieces away for pennies on the dollar just to keep Dahlin.
- ImThatGuy




Then you don’t sign dumb deals. Let all the other teams do it. When they can’t pay anyone else you can scoop up the remaining players on FA cheap.

Cap is fine. The superstars will get paid. It hurts the 4th line players. Teams will just not sign them for 2 million and pay their rookie 800k instead.

The teams that will suffer are the teams who pay okposo 6 million or Myers 7 million (reported).
MillerTime3011
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CO
Joined: 07.11.2011

Jun 24 @ 4:23 PM ET
This is about the time someone should go on a rant about how terrible this organization is.
- jochfr



I feel like that or a ROR/Kane/Bogo/Myers trade recap.


I was just looking at the hot topic guy from last year. Pacriottey. Getting that 5x7M from Vegas to score 22 goals and 40 points. Oh boy. That one is gonna age well.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 24 @ 4:34 PM ET
This is about the time someone should go on a rant about how terrible this organization is.
- jochfr


Hodgson, Housley, disco Dan
Ville leino, pissed off fans
Ted Black, turd burger
Christian Ehrhoff, Mike Weber
Ryan O'Reilly, murrancy
ownership emergency

WE DIDNT START THE FIRE
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 24 @ 4:40 PM ET
An NBA game is 48 mins long and their starters play 38 mins of those games...
- Stripes77

Again that’s my point. They don’t play as Much as NBA star players you need to dispense the money better as it stands I two years after these next rounds of deals.

You are going to have 4 guys making 45mil of a 85 mm cap.

And you have to have a second line so that’s another 30mm for 4 more guys.

And a goalie at 4-5mil.

In two years after these next rounds of deals you have no money left.

9 players making 80mil

So you have 5 mil left for 11 players. Min league salary is what 750-850 with player bonus not included



There is not enough money to go around as currently constructed and it is going to be impossible to put a team together.

Mediocre players and making star player money.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jun 24 @ 4:40 PM ET
Hodgson, Housley, disco Dan
Ville leino, pissed off fans
Ted Black, turd burger
Christian Ehrhoff, Mike Weber
Ryan O'Reilly, murrancy
ownership emergency

WE DIDNT START THE FIRE

- jcragcrumple

If that girl would have bleached her anus I wouldn't have gotten dysentery.
SyrSabreFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Syracuse, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 24 @ 4:42 PM ET
Hodgson, Housley, disco Dan
Ville leino, pissed off fans
Ted Black, turd burger
Christian Ehrhoff, Mike Weber
Ryan O'Reilly, murrancy
ownership emergency

WE DIDNT START THE FIRE

- jcragcrumple

😂
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 24 @ 4:43 PM ET
If that girl would have bleached her anus I wouldn't have gotten dysentery.
- jochfr




You're in Murrgatory now
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 24 @ 4:57 PM ET
They should really consider planning for this in advance....
- Lunaion



No, No!
I was told on Friday that they need to go with a "screw the Cap" philosophy, and Cap be damned attitude.

Sign Duchene, Lee, Dzingle, trade for Subban ... let's go!!!
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 24 @ 5:00 PM ET
Hodgson, Housley, disco Dan
Ville leino, pissed off fans
Ted Black, turd burger
Christian Ehrhoff, Mike Weber
Ryan O'Reilly, murrancy
ownership emergency

WE DIDNT START THE FIRE

- jcragcrumple


Please, would you put these in alphabetical order next time .
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 24 @ 5:03 PM ET
Please, would you put these in alphabetical order next time .
- IonSabres


When we reach the dog days of August, I will do the song for real
MillerTime3011
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CO
Joined: 07.11.2011

Jun 24 @ 5:04 PM ET
Philly traded Ryan Hartman to Dallas for Tyler Pitlick. one for one of guys underachieving going to fresh homes. I think that's a 3rd team for Pitlick and a 4th for Hartman already.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 24 @ 5:09 PM ET
Jason Botterill makes Darcy Regier look exciting.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jun 24 @ 5:11 PM ET
Philly traded Ryan Hartman to Dallas for Tyler Pitlick. one for one of guys underachieving going to fresh homes. I think that's a 3rd team for Pitlick and a 4th for Hartman already.
- MillerTime3011



So you’re saying Malkin is the answer?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 24 @ 5:11 PM ET
Just curious. Do these projections sound accurate if each progress as expected.

Dahlin 12-14
Reinhart 8.5 - 9.5
Montour - 6-8
Mitts -5-7
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 24 @ 5:12 PM ET
Jason Botterill makes Darcy Regier look exciting.
- ImThatGuy


Pegula: what has he done wrong?

Fanbase: That's the problem Terry, What has he done?
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jun 24 @ 5:15 PM ET
The NHL is a Mickey Mouse league when it comes to player movement.

And half the reason is the same, old school “hockey men” who recycle from team to team, and just want things status quo.

They need a lockout tbh
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