Hello PS
- Der Kaiser

Gluteus morgen, DK.

This sounds dirty...
- mhp

DRINK THE TEA

Watched the Instigators interview Ryan Johnson, seems like a good kid.
- mhp

He'll fit right in with Okposo and Bogosian. (Sorry I had to)

Hart yes. Playoffs MVP is more important in my eyes.

Did Botterill trade for Scandella as well or was that Murray?
- bluengold12

Yes, though you could argue that Pominville is the best player in that trade.

And MVP vs. playoff MVP feels like splitting hairs. I guess the additional Selke makes is worse. If the giraffe and the dman turn into NHL players, it could be a slightly better trade than Hall for Larsson, which is to say it's still a poopty trade

Gotta do something. I still like the Dzingel idea if they aren't thinking big with trades. Eichel, Dzingel, Mitts and Erod is fine for center depth. I'd be fine if they re-signed Pommer as well

Girgs-Erod-Pominville was pretty good as a true 4th line last year for the first 5 games of the season

Little Joe feels like a pipe dream
- jcragcrumple

Probably right in Pavelski, but he would be perfect here in that 2C role for short-term of 2 years.
ERod should be a 4th, he can play up for sure but he really would be terrific as a 4th...that is when we will know they have a decent team, when he gets pushed down...but now Sovadka and Larsson complicate that.
Mitts is a 3rd at this stage, he needs mentoring and that is where they should spend money IMO.

I'm not expecting much really, so anything decent they do is pretty much a Plus.

Considering Scandella gets crazy ice time and has some of the worst analytical numbers in the NHL I'm not so sure.
- bluengold12

But who's fault is the ice time?

Foligno is no better than Pommer.

Ennis was a bust for them and is long gone.

i think it comes down to what that Johnson dude ends up doing.. If he is at least a 2nd pairing d man the trade is comparable to the Hall one
- SabresFaninIndiana

I don't see how. ROR is the biggest reason the Blues won the freakin cup! Hall has been awesome but not enough to get his team to the cup. Also we got a bunch of spare trash for one great player

But who's fault is the ice time?

Foligno is no better than Pommer.

Ennis was a bust for them and is long gone.
- Powerslave

We also traded a 3rd for a 4th. No idea what's happening there

It’s going to take more than that to get him here.

For him to come to buffalo you are looking at 8-9 range.
- ImThatGuy

Ok.
Done.

But who's fault is the ice time?

Foligno is no better than Pommer.

Ennis was a bust for them and is long gone.
- Powerslave

If you look at our cap space, coupled with the fact that Pilut will be out till at least November, Scandella will continue to get more ice time or Hunwick. Not sure which bumbling moron is worse. Scandella had some of the worst analytical numbers.

I wouldn't say we got hosed on the trade. But being stuck with Scandella for another year is a hard pill to swallow

Is the ROR trade thus far the worst in NHL history? Maybe not but it has to be the worst in the last decade at least.

Think about the initial return...

- Berglund was brought in to be a stop gap 2C he sucked then quit on the team. At least we saved cap on him
- Sobotka was supposed to be a "quality" bottom six guy. He had the worst or second worst stats in the entire NHL in multiple analytical categories and he complained about not getting more ice time.
- Thompson, there's a chance he could come into his own in the next few years but he's been a mess in the NHL thus far
- 1st round pick ended up being the worst the Sabres could hope for because the Blues and ROR won the cup. Johnson is a prospect most saw as a mid 2nd round pick. Really can''t speak on him yet obviously but if he's anything less than a top pairing defender in 5-6 years it was a bad move
- bluengold12

Jesus Mary and Joseph shut up about it already.

Philly trades Foppa, Hextall, Ricci, $15M, 2 1sts for Lindros
Canucks trade Cam Neely
Calgary trades Brett Hull to STL.
Pens trade Jagr for 4 guys who scored 14 career goals.
Chicago trades Espisito
MON trades 2x champ/2x Vezina Patrick Roy for Jocelyn Thibault.
Boston trades Joe Thornton to SJ.
NYI trades Chara to OTT for Yashin.
Calgary trades Gilmore to TOR.
EDM trades Messier to NYR
EDM trades Gretzky to LAK
Canucks get Naslund from PIT.
Sabres get Hasek for Beauregard.
Caps trade Erat for Erat/Latta.
Philly trades Patrick Sharp to CHI.
Caps trade Jagr for Anson Carter.
Blues trade Pronger to EDM for Brewer.
Sabres Get Briere for Gratton.
FLA gets Jokinen/Luongo for Kvasha/Parrish
Calgary trades Giguere for a 2nd.
Sabres get Satan for Millar/Moore.
Wings got Kris Draper for literally $1 from the Jets.

I don't see how. ROR is the biggest reason the Blues won the freakin cup! Hall has been awesome but not enough to get his team to the cup. Also we got a bunch of spare trash for one great player
- bluengold12

You can't compare those two lineups. They're not even close.

ROR put that team over the top.

ROR in NJ? Still a bottom 10 finish.

I don't see how. ROR is the biggest reason the Blues won the freakin cup! Hall has been awesome but not enough to get his team to the cup. Also we got a bunch of spare trash for one great player
- bluengold12

And they don't even make the playoffs without the Hamburglar - I mean Binnington - coming in to save the season. There are many reasons

Yes, though you could argue that Pominville is the best player in that trade.

And MVP vs. playoff MVP feels like splitting hairs. I guess the additional Selke makes is worse. If the giraffe and the dman turn into NHL players, it could be a slightly better trade than Hall for Larsson, which is to say it's still a poopty trade
- jcragcrumple

Selke and playoff MVP trump regular season MVP. You think the Patriots would rather be 16-0 but lose the super bowl? Or barely sneak into the playoffs but then win the superbowl....

Is the ROR trade thus far the worst in NHL history? Maybe not but it has to be the worst in the last decade at least.

Think about the initial return...

- Berglund was brought in to be a stop gap 2C he sucked then quit on the team. At least we saved cap on him
- Sobotka was supposed to be a "quality" bottom six guy. He had the worst or second worst stats in the entire NHL in multiple analytical categories and he complained about not getting more ice time.
- Thompson, there's a chance he could come into his own in the next few years but he's been a mess in the NHL thus far
- 1st round pick ended up being the worst the Sabres could hope for because the Blues and ROR won the cup. Johnson is a prospect most saw as a mid 2nd round pick. Really can''t speak on him yet obviously but if he's anything less than a top pairing defender in 5-6 years it was a bad move
- bluengold12

Time for everyone to move on from this.

Selke and playoff MVP trump regular season MVP. You think the Patriots would rather be 16-0 but lose the super bowl? Or barely sneak into the playoffs but then win the superbowl....
- bluengold12

I'd rather Tom Brady's arm turn into jello and the entire organization were shot into the sun

If you look at our cap space, coupled with the fact that Pilut will be out till at least November, Scandella will continue to get more ice time or Hunwick. Not sure which bumbling moron is worse. Scandella had some of the worst analytical numbers.

I wouldn't say we got hosed on the trade. But being stuck with Scandella for another year is a hard pill to swallow
- bluengold12

Ok but Scandella was solid for Minnesota during his time there. Not great, but more than solid.

It was a decent hockey trade at the time that, really, neither team ultimately benefited from.

Jesus Mary and Joseph shut up about it already.

Philly trades Foppa, Hextall, Ricci, $15M, 2 1sts for Lindros
Canucks trade Cam Neely
Calgary trades Brett Hull to STL.
Pens trade Jagr for 4 guys who scored 14 career goals.
Chicago trades Espisito
MON trades 2x champ/2x Vezina Patrick Roy for Jocelyn Thibault.
Boston trades Joe Thornton to SJ.
NYI trades Chara to OTT for Yashin.
Calgary trades Gilmore to TOR.
EDM trades Messier to NYR
EDM trades Gretzky to LAK
Canucks get Naslund from PIT.
Sabres get Hasek for Beauregard.
Caps trade Erat for Erat/Latta.
Philly trades Patrick Sharp to CHI.
Caps trade Jagr for Anson Carter.
Blues trade Pronger to EDM for Brewer.
Sabres Get Briere for Gratton.
FLA gets Jokinen/Luongo for Kvasha/Parrish
Calgary trades Giguere for a 2nd.
Sabres get Satan for Millar/Moore.
Wings got Kris Draper for literally $1 from the Jets.
- MillerTime3011

No! I’m not going to shut up about it. It was a heaping pile of crap ontop of the massive heaping pile of crap that is poor Buffalo sports decisions! And if you would’ve read my post, I clearly said probably not the worst ever but DEFINITELY the worst in the last decade THUS FAR

Time for everyone to move on from this.
- SabreWest

I'll move on when finance wizard Botterill improves this crap roster

DRINK THE TEA
- homiedclown

He never did.

I was just wondering how this guy would be tuned into Buffalo when it seems like Botts doesn't let much out.
- mhp

2 way street. Can be Risto's agent, can be a team telling him Risto was being shopped to them.

Is the ROR trade thus far the worst in NHL history? Maybe not but it has to be the worst in the last decade at least.

Think about the initial return...

- Berglund was brought in to be a stop gap 2C he sucked then quit on the team. At least we saved cap on him
- Sobotka was supposed to be a "quality" bottom six guy. He had the worst or second worst stats in the entire NHL in multiple analytical categories and he complained about not getting more ice time.
- Thompson, there's a chance he could come into his own in the next few years but he's been a mess in the NHL thus far
- 1st round pick ended up being the worst the Sabres could hope for because the Blues and ROR won the cup. Johnson is a prospect most saw as a mid 2nd round pick. Really can''t speak on him yet obviously but if he's anything less than a top pairing defender in 5-6 years it was a bad move
- bluengold12

I don't think so.
At 31? They have about 25% chance of playing 200 NHL games anywhere let alone a 1st pairing

Risto is a 2nd/3rd tweeter at 8.

No! I’m not going to shut up about it. It was a heaping pile of crap ontop of the massive heaping pile of crap that is poor Buffalo sports decisions! And if you would’ve read my post, I clearly said probably not the worst ever but DEFINITELY the worst in the last decade THUS FAR
- bluengold12

Ok, but what's the point in whining about it a year later?

I don't think so.
At 31? They have about 25% chance of playing 200 NHL games anywhere let alone a 1st pairing

Risto is a 2nd/3rd tweeter at 8.


- IonSabres

If this kid turns into a good #2 to play with Dahlin or even a good #3 the trade will look better

The trade right now sucks.

But if he gets traded elsewhere he doesn't win a Cup

People are so emotional

Time to get over it

To start:

- Release Sobotka to the AHL
- Release Hunwick to the AHL
Release Wilson to the AHL (Zero cap space is eaten from this move and saves us some)
- Park Okposo in the press box unless injury if he doesn't like it release him to the AHL
- Don't tender Girgensons and Larsson pick one if you have to or trade both for hockey pucks
- Trade Scandella take back 25-40% of the salary if you have to

These are the kind of moves the GM should be making. Cut the dead weight out of this line up then I'll start feeling better about the team.