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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 25 @ 11:00 AM ET
Is the ROR trade thus far the worst in NHL history? Maybe not but it has to be the worst in the last decade at least.

Think about the initial return...

- Berglund was brought in to be a stop gap 2C he sucked then quit on the team. At least we saved cap on him
- Sobotka was supposed to be a "quality" bottom six guy. He had the worst or second worst stats in the entire NHL in multiple analytical categories and he complained about not getting more ice time.
- Thompson, there's a chance he could come into his own in the next few years but he's been a mess in the NHL thus far
- 1st round pick ended up being the worst the Sabres could hope for because the Blues and ROR won the cup. Johnson is a prospect most saw as a mid 2nd round pick. Really can''t speak on him yet obviously but if he's anything less than a top pairing defender in 5-6 years it was a bad move

- bluengold12


If he's a 2nd pairing dman, the trade is no worse than Hall for Larsson. But yes, poopty deal
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jun 25 @ 11:01 AM ET
Our roster is shaping up to look almost identical to last years. This isnt fun.
- BeadyEyedDouche


It's June 25th...
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 25 @ 11:02 AM ET
But Ott is not a center.
- Sabretooth9


I know.

But we seem to love to play guys where they're not supposed to be
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 25 @ 11:02 AM ET
If he's a 2nd pairing dman, the trade is no worse than Hall for Larsson. But yes, poopty deal
- jcragcrumple


Hall never won anything in NJ that's why it's much worse. Plus center is more valuable than LW and ROR won all the awards to rub it in our faces and Edmonton didn't get a few waste of space players in the deal. Also Larsson is far better than Thompson
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 25 @ 11:03 AM ET
I know.

But we seem to love to play guys where they're not supposed to be

- Powerslave

do you mean playing guys in the nhl that should be overseas or in the echl?
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jun 25 @ 11:03 AM ET
If he's a 2nd pairing dman, the trade is no worse than Hall for Larsson. But yes, poopty deal
- jcragcrumple


If he's a second pairing Dman, the trade is Hall for Larsson plus "the Pirouette that Will Live in Infamy." So just slightly better than Hall for Larsson.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 25 @ 11:04 AM ET
Hall never won anything in NJ that's why it's much worse. Plus center is more valuable than LW and ROR won all the awards to rub it in our faces and Edmonton didn't get a few waste of space players in the deal. Also Larsson is far better than Thompson
- bluengold12


He won the Hart

But yes, poopty trade
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jun 25 @ 11:04 AM ET
Hall never won anything in NJ that's why it's much worse. Plus center is more valuable than LW and ROR won all the awards to rub it in our faces and Edmonton didn't get a few waste of space players in the deal. Also Larsson is far better than Thompson
- bluengold12


This is true, but it's still a miss.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jun 25 @ 11:05 AM ET
do you mean playing guys in the nhl that should be overseas or in the echl?
- homiedclown


No he means like cooking wings in the microwave that should be in the fryer.
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 25 @ 11:05 AM ET
This is true, but it's still a miss.
- Der Kaiser


That wasn't a great trade either but ours takes the cake over Edmonton's
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jun 25 @ 11:05 AM ET
Is the ROR trade thus far the worst in NHL history? Maybe not but it has to be the worst in the last decade at least.

Think about the initial return...

- Berglund was brought in to be a stop gap 2C he sucked then quit on the team. At least we saved cap on him
- Sobotka was supposed to be a "quality" bottom six guy. He had the worst or second worst stats in the entire NHL in multiple analytical categories and he complained about not getting more ice time.
- Thompson, there's a chance he could come into his own in the next few years but he's been a mess in the NHL thus far
- 1st round pick ended up being the worst the Sabres could hope for because the Blues and ROR won the cup. Johnson is a prospect most saw as a mid 2nd round pick. Really can''t speak on him yet obviously but if he's anything less than a top pairing defender in 5-6 years it was a bad move

- bluengold12

Ummm.. We got the Greatest Goalie in NHL history (arguably) for spare parts
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 25 @ 11:05 AM ET
do you mean playing guys in the nhl that should be overseas or in the echl?
- homiedclown



Oh my
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 25 @ 11:05 AM ET
He won the Hart

But yes, poopty trade

- jcragcrumple


Hart yes. Playoffs MVP is more important in my eyes.

Did Botterill trade for Scandella as well or was that Murray?
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 25 @ 11:06 AM ET
No he means like cooking wings in the microwave that should be in the fryer.
- Der Kaiser


Oh my, my, my
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jun 25 @ 11:06 AM ET
That wasn't a great trade either but ours takes the cake over Edmonton's
- bluengold12


You're not following the logic, sport.
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 25 @ 11:06 AM ET
Ummm.. We got the Greatest Goalie in NHL history (arguably) for spare parts
- SabresFaninIndiana


*Last decade*
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jun 25 @ 11:06 AM ET
Oh my, my, my
- Powerslave


Hello PS
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 25 @ 11:06 AM ET
Hart yes. Playoffs MVP is more important in my eyes.

Did Botterill trade for Scandella as well or was that Murray?

- bluengold12



If we're picking apart the Minnesota trade, that's at worst a wash.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jun 25 @ 11:06 AM ET
It's June 25th...
- turbo044

i disagree.....
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 25 @ 11:07 AM ET
喝茶

Hē chá

- homiedclown


This sounds dirty...
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 25 @ 11:07 AM ET
You're not following the logic, sport.
- Der Kaiser


I'm following it. I asked if it was the worst trade in the last decade. I don't think Edmonton's deal was as bad as ours.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jun 25 @ 11:07 AM ET
*Last decade*
- bluengold12

i stopped at the end of the first sentence to type that.. of the last decade.. its gotta be up there if not the worst
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 25 @ 11:08 AM ET
Watched the Instigators interview Ryan Johnson, seems like a good kid.
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 25 @ 11:08 AM ET
If we're picking apart the Minnesota trade, that's at worst a wash.
- Powerslave


Considering Scandella gets crazy ice time and has some of the worst analytical numbers in the NHL I'm not so sure.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jun 25 @ 11:08 AM ET
I'm following it. I asked if it was the worst trade in the last decade. I don't think Edmonton's deal was as bad as ours.
- bluengold12

i think it comes down to what that Johnson dude ends up doing.. If he is at least a 2nd pairing d man the trade is comparable to the Hall one
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