That $6M is burning a hole in your pocket isn't it?
- paulr

Unless they’re going to insert Dach into the top 6, we’re short up top.

That's not really the point, We are talking about now, not 3 years ago
- vabeachbear

I’m just saying he’s use to playing successfully against older players. Does that carry over to next season against NHL players if he sets his mind to doing all he can in the off season in the gym? I don’t know the answer, but I wouldn’t rule it out.

Unless they’re going to insert Dach into the top 6, we’re short up top.
- Assman22

Gus to L1 LW !!!

I still wonder if they are going to bring Cam Ward back for another season.
- LAHawk

Because it's not a full rebuild these decisions become harder. Ward or another veteran, are more likely to fit in and perform but you also want to see a younger kid get his feet wet in the NHL for the future. Seeing as winning is more important than developing an NHL team, a veteran netminder, like Ward may be the best route to fo.

Unless they’re going to insert Dach into the top 6, we’re short up top.
- Assman22

With ADB and Kane they sure are.

I believe contracts that are signed once a player is 35 or older retain the full cap hit even if the player retires before the expiration of the deal. I’m uncertain if there would be any cap penalty in the scenario where Seabrook retires before the end of his agreement. But, I’d expect the league would be concerned about the potential for cap circumvention in that scenario.

Perhaps one of our more knowledgeable “capologist” posters could provide some clarity.

Edit: the age is 35.
- Chief4Feathers

After this season, Seabs will have collected 35.5M of his 55M total contract value. I believe he can voluntarily retire any time and not cause a cap penalty. But would he (and anybody else) walk away from almost $20M? And the Hawks aren't going to pay him $7 a year as an advisor or assistant coach.

RFA Projections

Kampf $1.2
Perlini $2.0 (too high if you ask me)
Sikura $1.2
Quenneville $1.0

Add Dach $925k and the Hawks are at 22 on the current roster with just over $6 mil in cap space.
- Assman22

I agree - $2M is too high for Perlini. Using those numbers - that's a total of about $6.4M to subtract from the $11.9M cap space leaving $5.5M in cap space. That would be with 12 forwards, 8 d-men and Crawford and Delia. Jokiharju is not on that roster so maybe Koekkoek and/or Dahlstrom is moved out or down to bring Joki up. Kubalik is not on that roster either so he would cost another $975K off the cap. So essentially Dahlstrom and Koekkoek out and Jokiharju and Kubalik in and cap space at about $5.5M.

I would think that means no more moves unless they are cap neutral or close to it. Anisimov out and a "tough to play against" forward in, maybe?

That $6M is burning a hole in your pocket isn't it?
- paulr

Plus AA might stay but more likely gone so that's 4.5 million gone maybe to a floor team for picks. Say hawks do get eakin and trade AA still save some money. I expect another trade or two to add some pk and physical type players to the bottom six.

After this season, Seabs will have collected 35.5M of his 55M total contract value. I believe he can voluntarily retire any time and not cause a cap penalty. But would he (and anybody else) walk away from almost $20M? And the Hawks aren't going to pay him $7 a year as an advisor or assistant coach.
- boilermaker100

Give him one of Wirtz's liquor distributorships.

NHL schedule comes out today as well. Keep an eye out for that.

Give him one of Wirtz's liquor distributorships.
- LAHawk

Or the spokesman on the Binny's commercials.

I agree - $2M is too high for Perlini. Using those numbers - that's a total of about $6.4M to subtract from the $11.9M cap space leaving $5.5M in cap space. That would be with 12 forwards, 8 d-men and Crawford and Delia. Jokiharju is not on that roster so maybe Koekkoek and/or Dahlstrom is moved out or down to bring Joki up. Kubalik is not on that roster either so he would cost another $975K off the cap. So essentially Dahlstrom and Koekkoek out and Jokiharju and Kubalik in and cap space at about $5.5M.

I would think that means no more moves unless they are cap neutral or close to it. Anisimov out and a "tough to play against" forward in, maybe?
- EbonyRaptor

That depends also on if they plan on putting daHaan on LTIR after day 1. In order to maximize the cap savings for possible deadline deals they would need to be as close to the cap on day 1 as possible.

NHL schedule comes out today as well. Keep an eye out for that.
- Tyler Cameron

Seems like a quiet day today around the league. Maybe everyone is concentrating on their RFA signings. Heard anything else, Tyler?

I think with the new CBA Seabs retires he walks away from tne money that is left and there is no cap hit.

in regard to the # of D on the hawks. my guess is De Haan misses 2 months. Dalhstrom is in Rockford and Seabs and Koek trade off as # 6. Also anybody know if Maata or De Haan play both sides? I know at times Gus has. generally I feel like guys that are not trying to add OFF tend to be fairly effective on there off side. or is it the other way around. I know hammer played on the right a lot,
after doing more research the trade was not as lopsided in our favor as expected. torn labrum is probably tough to get back from and he has had a lot of shoulder issues. if he is a bottom paring guy that is a lot of money. I think its worth the risk. but maybe not as much of trade win as I thought at 6PM

in regard to our RFA I just want us to make sure they all get at least 2 years. I don't want anymore contracts coming up next year then we already have.

would any of you guys consider giving Darling 3 year $650k (league min) deal to gethis life back in order? with the salary cap not going up much in 2020 either we are going to need to have 1-2 years of cheap goaltending. I know I would. he could spend this year in Rockford and compete next year for a spot with Delia, Lanken, nalimov.

Is there any way Hawks could fleece Tuch and/or Eakin from Vegas for some combo of AA, Murph or Gusty & prospects/picks? Or salary dump that combo and sign Anders Lee? Those are three guys that should be targeted now. Don't need Kessel.

LOL, should I change my handle to "The Dream Crusher"

- LAHawk

If it was a regular occurrence with you, yes, but this is only your first offense. Just don't let it happen again.

Is there any way Hawks could fleece Tuch and/or Eakin from Vegas for some combo of AA, Murph or Gusty & prospects/picks? Or salary dump that combo and sign Anders Lee? Those are three guys that should be targeted now. Don't need Kessel.
- ChiTownHawkFan

Vegas can't take back any salary. Vegas and the Hawks though are rumored to have been burning up the phones.

I believe contracts that are signed once a player is 35 or older retain the full cap hit even if the player retires before the expiration of the deal. I’m uncertain if there would be any cap penalty in the scenario where Seabrook retires before the end of his agreement. But, I’d expect the league would be concerned about the potential for cap circumvention in that scenario.

Perhaps one of our more knowledgeable “capologist” posters could provide some clarity.

Edit: the age is 35.
- Chief4Feathers

Morning, Chief. The hit in the situation is to Seabs' wallet. Retiring early means no more salary. No chance the advisor thing would fly to get him off the cap.

I’m just saying he’s use to playing successfully against older players. Does that carry over to next season against NHL players if he sets his mind to doing all he can in the off season in the gym? I don’t know the answer, but I wouldn’t rule it out.
- walleyeb1

OK, didn't catch your drift, now do

Don’t count Dach out from sticking for the regular season with the Hawks.

At minimum, he gets the 9 game regular season try out. He can always go back to Junior if doesn’t impress in the 1st 9.

Kid sounds and handles himself off ice like a professional. And the stories about his compete level are very promising.

That depends also on if they plan on putting daHaan on LTIR after day 1. In order to maximize the cap savings for possible deadline deals they would need to be as close to the cap on day 1 as possible.
- LAHawk

And that only lasts until daHaan returns, at which time they'd have to be cap compliant.

I think with the new CBA Seabs retires he walks away from tne money that is left and there is no cap hit.

in regard to the # of D on the hawks. my guess is De Haan misses 2 months. Dalhstrom is in Rockford and Seabs and Koek trade off as # 6. Also anybody know if Maata or De Haan play both sides? I know at times Gus has. generally I feel like guys that are not trying to add OFF tend to be fairly effective on there off side. or is it the other way around. I know hammer played on the right a lot,
after doing more research the trade was not as lopsided in our favor as expected. torn labrum is probably tough to get back from and he has had a lot of shoulder issues. if he is a bottom paring guy that is a lot of money. I think its worth the risk. but maybe not as much of trade win as I thought at 6PM

in regard to our RFA I just want us to make sure they all get at least 2 years. I don't want anymore contracts coming up next year then we already have.

would any of you guys consider giving Darling 3 year $650k (league min) deal to gethis life back in order? with the salary cap not going up much in 2020 either we are going to need to have 1-2 years of cheap goaltending. I know I would. he could spend this year in Rockford and compete next year for a spot with Delia, Lanken, nalimov.
- kmw4631

If the Hawks do sign a goalie, it will be a veteran (Ward), that can come in if CC gets injured. As much as I would love to give Darling a second chance, to sign him to possibly take playing time away from Delia/Lankinen in the Rock is not a good idea IMO.

Seems like a quiet day today around the league. Maybe everyone is concentrating on their RFA signings. Heard anything else, Tyler?
- boilermaker100

It's only 10am. Ha.

Hey Brooks Orpik retired. That's something.

Also, yes... all focus on RFAs right now.

Morning, Chief. The hit in the situation is to Seabs' wallet. Retiring early means no more salary. No chance the advisor thing would fly to get him off the cap.
- mohel

Yes, agreed. I don’t see how this scenario is appealing to Seabrook - without compensation coming in some different form.

However, given some of the flimsy/shady situations we’ve seen in the past (e.g. Pronger) I’ll never say there’s no chance anymore.

And that only lasts until daHaan returns, at which time they'd have to be cap compliant.
- mohel

I wouldn't be surprised to see Seabrook on LTIR at some point during the season.