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shekkie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Perkasie, PA
Joined: 07.05.2007

Jun 25 @ 3:23 PM ET
You didn't get the point.
- MJL


I got the point, most points aren't as mysterious as people think. But this is what your comment boils down to.

Any GM at any point can make a deal and then another can make a deal that is better. This isn't unique to the Flyers or their current situation.

Whether this is the case with what Fletcher has done so far is still just speculation but the same speculation could be made about any move any GM has made thus far.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 25 @ 3:23 PM ET
Would people be ok with Reimer?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 25 @ 3:23 PM ET
You didn't get the point.
- MJL


Kind of like marrying your first match on Tinder, and then wondering how you missed out on all those keepers that your friends found on FarmersOnly.

MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 25 @ 3:24 PM ET
Just feeling the need to point there has been a lot of disagreement in here today, but for the most part the debates have been civil and informative.

Good job all! Wish it could be like this all the time.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 25 @ 3:25 PM ET
I got the point, most points aren't as mysterious as people think. But this is what your comment boils down to.

Any GM at any point can make a deal and then another can make a deal that is better. This isn't unique to the Flyers or their current situation.

Whether this is the case with what Fletcher has done so far is still just speculation but the same speculation could be made about any move any GM has made thus far.

- shekkie



Based on your comments and reinforced with your post here. You didn't get the point. It's not about another GM making a better deal.

What is unique to the Flyers situation this off season?
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Jun 25 @ 3:25 PM ET
Would people be ok with Reimer?
- Just5

I would.
FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Jun 25 @ 3:25 PM ET
Just feeling the need to point there has been a lot of disagreement in here today, but for the most part the debates have been civil and informative.

Good job all! Wish it could be like this all the time.

- MBFlyerfan

turd
Bayareaflyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.10.2008

Jun 25 @ 3:25 PM ET
Would people be ok with Reimer?
- Just5

Only if he is on sale at 50% off and they take a Raffl in return
shekkie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Perkasie, PA
Joined: 07.05.2007

Jun 25 @ 3:25 PM ET
Just feeling the need to point there has been a lot of disagreement in here today, but for the most part the debates have been civil and informative.

Good job all! Wish it could be like this all the time.

- MBFlyerfan



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wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jun 25 @ 3:27 PM ET
Just feeling the need to point there has been a lot of disagreement in here today, but for the most part the debates have been civil and informative.

Good job all! Wish it could be like this all the time.

- MBFlyerfan



Fxck this
RajaAmpat
Joined: 12.16.2018

Jun 25 @ 3:28 PM ET
Shea Weber offer sheet ....
- daryl stanley


Just because we have a new GM and Ed Snider has passed away...... I wonder if the the supposed hard feelings in the league due to that offer sheet are still burning in a lot of other teams offices....this would not affect the Hayes deal, but other actual hockey trades, upping the ante on the Flyers part...?

wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jun 25 @ 3:31 PM ET
Assuming our roster is pretty much a finished product, your guess on the flyers for next season

I say top 3 in Met, lose In game 6 of 2nd round

If there is a major change to roster we can re-visit
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jun 25 @ 3:33 PM ET
Does this mean we have open competition for 1 spot?

#Flyers issue qualifying offers to Nicolas Aube-Kubel ($761,250), Travis Konecny ($874,125), Scott Laughton ($1,050,000) and Ivan Provorov ($874,125).

No QOs for Jacob Graves or Justin Bailey.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 25 @ 3:33 PM ET
turd
- FlyerFan16


That is Mr. Ferguson to you.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 25 @ 3:34 PM ET
Does this mean we have open competition for 1 spot?

#Flyers issue qualifying offers to Nicolas Aube-Kubel ($761,250), Travis Konecny ($874,125), Scott Laughton ($1,050,000) and Ivan Provorov ($874,125).

No QOs for Jacob Graves or Justin Bailey.

- wcorvette


All formalities.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 25 @ 3:34 PM ET
Assuming our roster is pretty much a finished product, your guess on the flyers for next season

I say top 3 in Met, lose In game 6 of 2nd round

If there is a major change to roster we can re-visit

- wcorvette


4th in the Metro. Barely miss PO's
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 25 @ 3:36 PM ET
4th in the Metro. Barely miss PO's
- Tomahawk



Ouch! The Metro is so tough.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jun 25 @ 3:37 PM ET
4th in the Metro. Barely miss PO's
- Tomahawk


I can't see them missing the playoffs this year..

They were not far off last year and on paper the roster is better, they should have a full year of Hart and you can expect an inevitable improvement in record that comes with an established and proven coach like AV.


If they miss the playoffs it should be viewed as a total failure for this team.
FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Jun 25 @ 3:37 PM ET
That is Mr. Ferguson to you.

- MBFlyerfan

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 25 @ 3:38 PM ET
I can't see them missing the playoffs this year..

They were not far off last year and on paper the roster is better, they should have a full year of Hart and you can expect an inevitable improvement in record that comes with an established and proven coach like AV.


If they miss the playoffs it should be viewed as a total failure for this team.

- opeth_pa


It would not be unheard of for a 20 year old goaltender to struggle.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 25 @ 3:41 PM ET
I can't see them missing the playoffs this year..

They were not far off last year and on paper the roster is better, they should have a full year of Hart and you can expect an inevitable improvement in record that comes with an established and proven coach like AV.


If they miss the playoffs it should be viewed as a total failure for this team.

- opeth_pa


I think more or less 3 teams from the Atlantic are basically a lock. I think BUF and FLA will be much improved when all is said and done. I think those are the 5 that make it out of that division.

Metro is harder to call, but I think the Caps and Pens will still be in the top-3. Canes I feel like are probably there with them with the way they play a modern game. Isles I'm not bullish on. Devils could surprise. Jackets probably step back a bit. Maybe the Flyers can slip into 4th in that mix. Maybe not, tho.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jun 25 @ 3:42 PM ET
It would not be unheard of for a 20 year old goaltender to struggle.
- MJL


Agreed and if that was the only thing they had going for them this year I would say they were really on the cusp of missing the playoffs....

I just feel that between the three things I listed the players hopefully attack this season and practice some extreme ownership of the failures over the past seasons.

All of that should put them in the playoffs.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 25 @ 3:43 PM ET
The guy makes 3.8 million a year. Do you expect him to be putting up 40-50 points? You realize he’s not an offensive dman correct? He will play 20+ minutes a night against tough lineups and do well defensively. That is our biggest problem from last season, defensive zone lapses, not d men points
- Richieattack18


The post you responded to would suggest that I’m we aware he’s not an offensive defenseman. What’s ridiculous is suggesting that the Sharks goaltender is the single reason why Braun had a bad season but he’s good because he played 20 minutes a game.

Justin Braun had a bad season last season. Something Bill has already pointed out himself. So tell me how Braun alone fixes our defensive lapses coming off a bad season himself?

When did the Philadelphia Flyers get known for great goaltending?
shekkie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Perkasie, PA
Joined: 07.05.2007

Jun 25 @ 3:45 PM ET
Based on your comments and reinforced with your post here. You didn't get the point. It's not about another GM making a better deal.

What is unique to the Flyers situation this off season?

- MJL


I just disagree that the mandate to Fletcher made him rush anything is all. I think he went into the Hayes situation eyes wide open and fully aware of what the market would bear for a center of his capabilities. I think Nisk/Braun are relatively low risk attempts to solidify the D corps and don't pose any long term downsides for the team.


FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Jun 25 @ 3:46 PM ET
4th in the Metro. Barely miss PO's
- Tomahawk

I don't see it.

That will be a complete disaster, for a second straight year.
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