Sublime55
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He came to Buffalo as a 20 y/o and played 16 years in the NHL, but yeah I guess his best years were as a 17-19 y/o playing for Moscow. Must have missed his 76 goals in 77 games in '92-'93. - adambuffalo
That same year, Selanne posted 76 goals as a rookie. Now you’ll be hard pressed to find more than a couple of guys getting to 40 in a season. I miss the days before the trap....it hasn’t been the same since. |
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Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 07.29.2013
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There was a point in JR’s, Vinny’s, and Mogilny’s careers where they were elite. Was Alfie ever elite?
I don’t mean that rudely. I like Alfie. He was a great player over a long period of time. He compiled some impressive numbers, and was a leader.
But even though he’s had a hell of a career, I like it when a HOF inductee can point to a period that they were elite.
I think the other three have that. I just dunno about Alfie. Same with Elias, for that matter. I suppose the former will eventually get in regardless. |
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Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: "F-" Robert, NY Joined: 06.29.2007
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Zubov, Mogilny, Carbonneau, and Turgeon should have been the class. |
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Bias aside, I’d put alfredsson in ahead of all 4 of them.....equal or better NHLer, and more success internationally - sensarmy_11
Thanks for putting your bias aside. Appreciated
Alfie is borderline. Always good, never great
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Thanks for putting your bias aside. Appreciated
Alfie is borderline. Always good, never great - AxlRose91
If alfredsson wasn’t great than neither was roenick or lecavalier. Career numbers are almost the same, career highs are almost identical. Alfredsson deserves to be in as much as them. |
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Komisaurus Rex
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Guhle is already the McJesus of defense , ON Joined: 06.14.2009
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Dreger reporting that a team is prepared to offer sheet Marner 14-15 million
Holy (frank) it's actually happening!
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gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON Joined: 02.01.2016
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That same year, Selanne posted 76 goals as a rookie. Now you’ll be hard pressed to find more than a couple of guys getting to 40 in a season. I miss the days before the trap....it hasn’t been the same since. - Sublime55
I blame the Red Wings. They were swept in the SCF in '95 by NJ. Everyone started to play a version of the Devils "trap hockey" and hockey was never the same. Had the Red Wings beat NJ in 1995 then teams would've emulated the Red Wings. High skill, speed, puck possession, up tempo quick passing. But it never happened. Blame the Red Wings. |
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gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON Joined: 02.01.2016
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Dreger reporting that a team is prepared to offer sheet Marner 14-15 million
Holy (frank) it's actually happening!
- Komisaurus Rex
Wow. |
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Dreger reporting that a team is prepared to offer sheet Marner 14-15 million
Holy (frank) it's actually happening!
- Komisaurus Rex
Jesus, leafs should take their 4 picks, cap space, and call it a day |
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Power29
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Farmington, MN Joined: 06.30.2015
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Sir, this is a Wendys drive through. - smellmyfinger
Uhhhhhhhh, ok.
They don't talk hockey @ Wendy's? |
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Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 07.24.2012
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I blame the Red Wings. They were swept in the SCF in '95 by NJ. Everyone started to play a version of the Devils "trap hockey" and hockey was never the same. Had the Red Wings beat NJ in 1995 then teams would've emulated the Red Wings. High skill, speed, puck possession, up tempo quick passing. But it never happened. Blame the Red Wings. - gergeswillems
The Wings has their own version of the trap called the Left Wing Lock if I remember correctly. |
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gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON Joined: 02.01.2016
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The Wings has their own version of the trap called the Left Wing Lock if I remember correctly. - Sublime55
Scotty Bowman used the Left Wing Lock in the 70s with the Habs to great success. He brought it with him to Detroit. NJ used the neutral zone trap which was basically invented by Roger Neilson and perfected by Devils head coach Jacques Lemaire who coincidentally was a key player for Bowman's Habs. |
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PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Belleville, ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 07.24.2012
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Scotty Bowman used the Left Wing Lock in the 70s with the Habs to great success. Not the full neutral zone trap which was basically invented by Roger Neilson and perfected by Devils head coach Jacques Lemaire who coincidentally was a key player for Bowman's Habs. - gergeswillems
Huh, thanks! |
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Reveen.
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: BC Joined: 09.05.2016
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Elias gets so little respect that people take cups away from him.
I’m not sure if he’ll get the nod for the Hall but he’ll always be a legend to any NJ fan. - WayneZ
The guy was legendary to any hockey fan of the era |
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Nmbr1
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Joined: 01.09.2018
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BS that JR got passed over. |
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hawk35
Season Ticket Holder Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: NF Joined: 08.26.2009
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gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON Joined: 02.01.2016
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I'm surprised Mogilny didn't get in. |
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Could be the worst players class ever. Nedomansky over JR!!?? or Turgeon? Fleury?
Heck put Damphousse or Butch Goring in ahead of that Czech.. their impacts were greater in the best league in the world.
Go away with Nedomansky. |
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Pairo11
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Cancel my subscription to the resurrection. Joined: 10.15.2007
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Turning down playing for the Habs MAKES him a Hall of Famer in my book!!!! - hawk35
Agreed. I APPLAUD him for it !
(And JR was a doucher) |
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bruinzfan77
Boston Bruins |
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Location: MB Joined: 07.19.2012
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Kevin Lowe. 6 Cups??? Should be automatic!! |
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Komisaurus Rex
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Guhle is already the McJesus of defense , ON Joined: 06.14.2009
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FWIW Craig Button has rated the Habs prospect pool a resounding A+
For what it's worth..
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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: avid reader of the daily douche news Joined: 03.14.2014
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FWIW Craig Button has rated the Habs prospect pool a resounding A+
For what it's worth..
- Komisaurus Rex
Plan the parade |
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gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON Joined: 02.01.2016
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FWIW Craig Button has rated the Habs prospect pool a resounding A+
For what it's worth..
- Komisaurus Rex
Button's tenure as Flames GM was a D+ |
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Komisaurus Rex
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Guhle is already the McJesus of defense , ON Joined: 06.14.2009
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Plan the parade - Tumbleweed
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