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RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 26 @ 12:45 PM ET
Risto ++ for Provorov

Do it.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 26 @ 12:52 PM ET
Too my knowledge not a single one has been offered a contract, just the QO.
- Sabres1523

again, why offer them all contracts

this team is not getting 20 points better with elie, wilson, girgens, larsson, sobotka and okposo under contract


meet the new boss

same as the old boss
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 26 @ 12:54 PM ET
again, why offer them all contracts

this team is not getting 20 points better with elie, wilson, girgens, larsson, sobotka and okposo under contract


meet the new boss

same as the old boss

- homiedclown


100% right, we are not making the playoffs next year most likely.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 26 @ 12:54 PM ET
again, why offer them all contracts

this team is not getting 20 points better with elie, wilson, girgens, larsson, sobotka and okposo under contract


meet the new boss

same as the old boss

- homiedclown


It’s not even July1st yet
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 26 @ 12:57 PM ET
The only thing I am nervous about with MJ is if he is a product of players around him or if he is good enough to elevate others.

The first 6 years was in Washington where we know their top 6 was stacked. Then he went to NJ and was pretty below average to be honest. Only played 87 games in last 2 years so it was pretty injury riddled.

Then goes to Boston as their 3LW and played very well again.

- JVince11


I think you overrate him
I wouldn’t give him the contract that he’ll demand as a UFA
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 26 @ 12:59 PM ET
Pavelski is in Tampa right now. At their practice rink.
If he signs there I’ll take Johnson

- Stripes77


If they sign him, they’ve gotta trade Point...
Right???
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 26 @ 1:02 PM ET
If they sign him, they’ve gotta trade Point...
Right???

- jdfitz77


Depends what he takes, if it's a big discount, then not necessarily, especially because they'd probably move Johnson then as mentioned.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 26 @ 1:03 PM ET
It’s not even July1st yet
- jdfitz77

nobody has answered this question

how is this team going to be better with sobotka, wilson, okposo and adding contracts to girgens, larsson and elie


unless this was a playoff team housley f'd up and I feel at best is was a fringe playoff team if everything went right


I could care less if it's june 26th, july 26th or august 26th


how is sobotka, wilson, okposo, girgens, larsson and elie all worthy of holding onto one of our 50 contracts allowed


sometimes there is addition by subtraction

right now we have a blueprint for 1 open spot in the fall
Phatjohnsn
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 02.28.2016

Jun 26 @ 1:04 PM ET
again, why offer them all contracts

this team is not getting 20 points better with elie, wilson, girgens, larsson, sobotka and okposo under contract


meet the new boss

same as the old boss

- homiedclown


They don't have contracts, its nitpicking but you're not arguing with the right tools.

If they swap out Wilson for a 6th and Girgs for a 5th would you feel better? Probably not but those things are still organizational assets you wouldn't have if you let those players walk.

Plus with how fans are here - Girgensons will go to Florida next year, play 3C, they'll find a hot goalie, and win a cup so everyone on this board can talk about how bad Botts is for letting Girgensons walk "for nothing"
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 26 @ 1:08 PM ET
nobody has answered this question

how is this team going to be better with sobotka, wilson, okposo and adding contracts to girgens, larsson and elie


unless this was a playoff team housley f'd up and I feel at best is was a fringe playoff team if everything went right


I could care less if it's june 26th, july 26th or august 26th


how is sobotka, wilson, okposo, girgens, larsson and elie all worthy of holding onto one of our 50 contracts allowed


sometimes there is addition by subtraction

right now we have a blueprint for 1 open spot in the fall

- homiedclown


Every team has players under contract that are 4th line quality or AHL caliber.
We actually have one of the longer lists of players we're not qualifying thus far.

https://www.prohockeyrumo...019-qualifying-offer.html
Phatjohnsn
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 02.28.2016

Jun 26 @ 1:08 PM ET
nobody has answered this question

how is this team going to be better with sobotka, wilson, okposo and adding contracts to girgens, larsson and elie


unless this was a playoff team housley f'd up and I feel at best is was a fringe playoff team if everything went right


I could care less if it's june 26th, july 26th or august 26th


how is sobotka, wilson, okposo, girgens, larsson and elie all worthy of holding onto one of our 50 contracts allowed


sometimes there is addition by subtraction

right now we have a blueprint for 1 open spot in the fall

- homiedclown


Why not just leave this point until fall to see which of the bolded have actually stuck around?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 26 @ 1:12 PM ET
Why not just leave this point until fall to see which of the bolded have actually stuck around?
- Phatjohnsn

I will consult with you before I make any more posts


enjoy your season tickets
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 26 @ 1:13 PM ET
nobody has answered this question

how is this team going to be better with sobotka, wilson, okposo and adding contracts to girgens, larsson and elie


unless this was a playoff team housley f'd up and I feel at best is was a fringe playoff team if everything went right


I could care less if it's june 26th, july 26th or august 26th


how is sobotka, wilson, okposo, girgens, larsson and elie all worthy of holding onto one of our 50 contracts allowed


sometimes there is addition by subtraction

right now we have a blueprint for 1 open spot in the fall

- homiedclown


Elie was for Rochester, he’s unlikely to see time with us
Wilson will be the 13th forward at best

Your idea of playing Sheary-Sobatka-Okposo on line 4 is terrible with our current setup
If they played the defensive roles that Larsson & Girgs were actually good at last year,
they’d get creamed & we’d let up A LOT more goals

So since they can’t do it...
And we have no 2way centers or even good 2way wingers in the Top9...
That’s why u have Larsson & Girgs back
Bc we need someone that can play decent defensively (even if they can’t score)
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 26 @ 1:13 PM ET
Every team has players under contract that are 4th line quality or AHL caliber.
We actually have one of the longer lists of players we're not qualifying thus far.

https://www.prohockeyrumo...019-qualifying-offer.html

- RhinoFan

there is no reason to have all 6 scrubs under contract


zip , nil noda


team needs a roster turnover on the bottom 9, and once pommer signs his 1 year deal, we have groundhog day
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 26 @ 1:16 PM ET
Elie was for Rochester, he’s unlikely to see time with us
Wilson will be the 13th forward at best

Your idea of playing Sheary-Sobatka-Okposo on line 4 is terrible with our current setup
If they played the defensive roles that Larsson & Girgs were actually good at last year,
they’d get creamed & we’d let up A LOT more goals

So since they can’t do it...
And we have no 2way centers or even good 2way wingers in the Top9...
That’s why u have Larsson & Girgs back
Bc we need someone that can play decent defensively (even if they can’t score)

- jdfitz77

thanks gm


they will lean on vets and most of the kids will be in rochester again


this was suppose to be an upbeat north south team according to our gm


how does sobotka, girgens, larsson, elie, wilson fit in that equation?



if you want an upbeat team, your 4th line is smith, e-rod and sheary



instead we will get elie, lockport larry and can't stay on my skates gus
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jun 26 @ 1:17 PM ET




jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 26 @ 1:20 PM ET
thanks gm

they will lean on vets and most of the kids will be in rochester again

this was suppose to be an upbeat north south team according to our gm

how does sobotka, girgens, larsson, elie, wilson fit in that equation?

if you want an upbeat team, your 4th line is smith, e-rod and sheary

instead we will get elie, lockport larry and can't stay on my skates gus

- homiedclown



You ask for reasoning behind the QOs and then act like a pr!ck to anyone who responds
Wow, that’s just great
Really nice talking to ya Homie


Roster moves WILL BE MADE
and not all those guys will be here opening night

But enjoy freaking out about it for the next 3months
That will be time we’ll spent I’m sure
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jun 26 @ 1:26 PM ET
You ask for reasoning behind the QOs and then act like a pr!ck to anyone who responds
Wow, that’s just great
Really nice talking to ya Homie


Roster moves WILL BE MADE
and not all those guys will be here opening night

But enjoy freaking out about it for the next 3months
That will be time we’ll spent I’m sure

- jdfitz77



Would you call it odd that everyone you try to converse with ends up freaking out as you say?
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 26 @ 1:26 PM ET
Aho should be the target, he would instantly make us a major threat. One can dream I guess, just don’t see it happening.
- Carubba-Kaleta

Doesn't Carolina have the cap space to match?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 26 @ 1:26 PM ET
Risto ++ for Provorov

Do it.

- RhinoFan


Provorov had a rough year. I don't think it's indicative of his overall development though. I think he could be bought low (in relative terms) at this time.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 26 @ 1:28 PM ET
You ask for reasoning behind the QOs and then act like a pr!ck to anyone who responds
Wow, that’s just great
Really nice talking to ya Homie


Roster moves WILL BE MADE
and not all those guys will be here opening night

But enjoy freaking out about it for the next 3months
That will be time we’ll spent I’m sure

- jdfitz77

if you had no use for a 300 lb woman, would you offer her a date?



it's kind of the same since we have no use for girgens, larsson and elie
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Jun 26 @ 1:29 PM ET





- jochfr

I’m sorry about your doggo...
IceColdBeer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The CLT, NC
Joined: 07.18.2011

Jun 26 @ 1:30 PM ET
Did we trade for Aho yet. Will take Pu back as a part of the deal.
Carubba-Kaleta
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jun 26 @ 1:30 PM ET
Doesn't Carolina have the cap space to match?
- Michael Pachla

They do for sure, but I’ve heard they are low balling him due to a self imposed budget. Can’t see JB doing it regardless, oh well hopefully we can get point outta Tampa without an offer sheet.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 26 @ 1:30 PM ET
thanks gm


they will lean on vets and most of the kids will be in rochester again


this was suppose to be an upbeat north south team according to our gm


how does sobotka, girgens, larsson, elie, wilson fit in that equation?



if you want an upbeat team, your 4th line is smith, e-rod and sheary



instead we will get elie, lockport larry and can't stay on my skates gus

- homiedclown


Don't lean on Gus. His balance isn't very good to begin with
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