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mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.14.2015

Jun 27 @ 9:15 AM ET
Yeah, seriously. They have enough question marks on this team, so we're adding one more? They don't have near enough quality trade chips, and you're going to just throw one away? No, thanks.

Donskoi is not getting $6 million. Has he ever hit 15 goals?

- Powerslave


I'd rather gamble on a question mark than role out a bunch of guys that I know suck
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 27 @ 9:17 AM ET
when was the last time the sabres were competitive?



asking for a friend

- homiedclown


November 28, 2018.
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Jun 27 @ 9:21 AM ET
when was the last time the sabres were competitive?



asking for a friend

- homiedclown



Every year. Opening night. Before puck drop.

After that, it's always a gamble.
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 27 @ 9:25 AM ET
Yeah, seriously. They have enough question marks on this team, so we're adding one more? They don't have near enough quality trade chips, and you're going to just throw one away? No, thanks.

Donskoi is not getting $6 million. Has he ever hit 15 goals?

- Powerslave



So instead of buying low on a guy who is coming off an injury who was finally able to showcase his talents, they're going to sign a guy with a career high of 37 points?

4 mins of ice time more a night in Vegas than in Minny

Got significant PP time

Even if his production dropped down to 40 points that's still 4th best among forwards on the Sabres

He can play LW and Center

The cost to get him was stupid low.

and if it doesn't work out at the end of the day all it costs is a C prospect and a 4th or 5th rounder and he is a UFA after this season so if they don't wanna keep him he gets moved at the deadline

Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 27 @ 9:27 AM ET
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Conditions on 5th RD pick in Haula trade: if he's on the Hurricanes roster past next season Vegas gets the pick (so if he signs); If the 'Canes trade Haula for either a player, or multiple picks, or a pick in rounds 1-5, Vegas also gets the 5th. If Haula walks next year, no pick


homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 27 @ 9:29 AM ET
Every year. Opening night. Before puck drop.

After that, it's always a gamble.

- thatsapickle

buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 27 @ 9:32 AM ET
Pierre LeBrun

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Conditions on 5th RD pick in Haula trade: if he's on the Hurricanes roster past next season Vegas gets the pick (so if he signs); If the 'Canes trade Haula for either a player, or multiple picks, or a pick in rounds 1-5, Vegas also gets the 5th. If Haula walks next year, no pick

- Stripes77


The conditions of these picks continue to get stranger and stranger.
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
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Jun 27 @ 9:33 AM ET
The conditions of these picks continue to get stranger and stranger.
- buffalofan19


It's pretty funny to me with this one for some reason

All of this over a 5th round pick?
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 27 @ 9:36 AM ET
I'd rather gamble on a question mark than role out a bunch of guys that I know suck
- mattmoulson



Or, because you know, it's JUNE 27TH, instead of making a dumb move, maybe we allow the gm to work, because maybe the guy has a plan.

It's downright hysterical that 90% of people on here think we should have traded for yet another 3rd liner who had ONE good year in his career because he "came cheap". Everyone wants change so much that you're willing to trade for trash because "it's new".

Ever think that Carolina didn't WANT CJ Smith, perhaps? This isn't (frank)ing Xbox. Let the man do his job.
Powerslave
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Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 27 @ 9:37 AM ET
So instead of buying low on a guy who is coming off an injury who was finally able to showcase his talents, they're going to sign a guy with a career high of 37 points?

4 mins of ice time more a night in Vegas than in Minny

Got significant PP time

Even if his production dropped down to 40 points that's still 4th best among forwards on the Sabres

He can play LW and Center

The cost to get him was stupid low.

and if it doesn't work out at the end of the day all it costs is a C prospect and a 4th or 5th rounder and he is a UFA after this season so if they don't wanna keep him he gets moved at the deadline

- Stripes77



So you're making an argument for signing Donskoi, then? 😉

Because he'll certainly get a bigger role here, ala Haula. And you're not giving anything up to acquire him.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 27 @ 9:37 AM ET
It's pretty funny to me with this one for some reason

All of this over a 5th round pick?

- Stripes77



"If Haula takes a poop in the middle of the locker room floor, and the janitor cleans it up within 15 minutes, Vegas gets a 5th round pick.

If he merely urinates in the middle of the locker room floor, but cleans it up himself, Vegas would also get a 5th round pick.

Otherwise, no pick."
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 27 @ 9:38 AM ET
14 twice. He made $1.9M last year playing 14 minutes a night and got 14 goals and 23 assists for his season. He's a good player and I'm glad were interested but I can't imagine his UFA offer won't be much more than 4, maybe 4.5. What might be attractive for him is he could slide into the top 6 here, unlike what he got in SJ.
- mhp


I like these type players like Donskoi... i do have a friend who is a die hard Sharks fan and says that he's nothing special though. I'd support the signing but would be critical if it was for more than 4M.
JVince11
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Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 27 @ 9:39 AM ET
The conditions of these picks continue to get stranger and stranger.
- buffalofan19


Wasn't the Hunwick one that he had to be on our roster for last season and until the draft this year or we had to give them another pick? But now we could deal or cut him if he wanted for no additional pick?

Slump Buster
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Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jun 27 @ 9:41 AM ET
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On to the business: VAN will get hit with a cap recapture penalty of slightly more than $3M in each of the next three seasons. FLA cap recapture penalty will be slightly more than $1M in each of next three seasons.


This is why Murray was smart to buy out the Hoff
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 27 @ 9:41 AM ET
Wasn't the Hunwick one that he had to be on our roster for last season and until the draft this year or we had to give them another pick? But now we could deal or cut him if he wanted for no additional pick?
- JVince11


The 4th became a 3rd if we traded Hunwick before the draft or if Sheary potted 20
Da_Cashman
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Joined: 04.18.2011

Jun 27 @ 9:42 AM ET
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On to the business: VAN will get hit with a cap recapture penalty of slightly more than $3M in each of the next three seasons. FLA cap recapture penalty will be slightly more than $1M in each of next three seasons.


This is why Murray was smart to buy out the Hoff

- Slump Buster


RAW DEAL!!!
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 27 @ 9:42 AM ET
So you're making an argument for signing Donskoi, then? 😉

Because he'll certainly get a bigger role here, ala Haula. And you're not giving anything up to acquire him.

- Powerslave



Except overpaying him

Which this team has to do to get people in the door

So if/when he signs here for $4.5 million on a 4-5 year deal I don't want to hear complaints
Stripes77
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Jun 27 @ 9:43 AM ET
Bob McKenzie

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On to the business: VAN will get hit with a cap recapture penalty of slightly more than $3M in each of the next three seasons. FLA cap recapture penalty will be slightly more than $1M in each of next three seasons.


This is why Murray was smart to buy out the Hoff

- Slump Buster


Probably one of the few things he did correctly

He wasn't a bad player but that contract was BRUTAL
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 27 @ 9:43 AM ET
Bob McKenzie

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On to the business: VAN will get hit with a cap recapture penalty of slightly more than $3M in each of the next three seasons. FLA cap recapture penalty will be slightly more than $1M in each of next three seasons.


This is why Murray was smart to buy out the Hoff

- Slump Buster



I hated the buyout at the time, thinking it was nothing more than a doomsday scenario, but it was definitely one of the smartest moves he made as a GM here.
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Jun 27 @ 9:44 AM ET
The 4th became a 3rd if we traded Hunwick before the draft or if Sheary potted 20
- jcragcrumple


So you're saying they told Sheary not to score this year to save the 3rd?
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 27 @ 9:45 AM ET
Except overpaying him

Which this team has to do to get people in the door

So if/when he signs here for $4.5 million on a 4-5 year deal I don't want to hear complaints

- Stripes77



$4.5 on a 4 year deal for a 27 year old guy that's going to "Eric Haula" the (frank) outta this place is right on.

And you're going to hear complaints no matter what we do or don't do.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 27 @ 9:45 AM ET
So you're saying they told Sheary not to score this year to save the 3rd?
- thatsapickle


Yeah, it was part of the stealth tank. The hardest part of the whole thing though was convincing Bogo not to score 15 goals and emerge as a top-pairing defenseman along side Dahlin.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 27 @ 9:50 AM ET
The 4th became a 3rd if we traded Hunwick before the draft or if Sheary potted 20
- jcragcrumple


So that's why Sheary busted this year.... he was considerate of our 3rd rounder.

Sheary for 25 this year. COUNT IT.
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Jun 27 @ 9:51 AM ET
Yeah, it was part of the stealth tank. The hardest part of the whole thing though was convincing Bogo not to score 15 goals and emerge as a top-pairing defenseman along side Dahlin.
- jcragcrumple



That makes a lot of sense.

As much sense as anything else.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 27 @ 9:51 AM ET
"If Haula takes a poop in the middle of the locker room floor, and the janitor cleans it up within 15 minutes, Vegas gets a 5th round pick.

If he merely urinates in the middle of the locker room floor, but cleans it up himself, Vegas would also get a 5th round pick.

Otherwise, no pick."

- buffalofan19


Where is the Hurricanes Logo in the carpet of the locker room?
I mean if he poops there, it should definitely then be a 3rd
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