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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 29 @ 4:06 PM ET
If they add Nemeth, Myers and Nyquist I think they make the playoffs. I need a shower
- CanuckDon


I think they have a chance to not only make the playoffs, but win a round
GPHawksfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: AB
Joined: 01.26.2018

Jun 29 @ 4:16 PM ET
Easily
- Nucker101

With the players using the minimum on the escrow escalator there is talk of it flatening out until after the new CBA and expansion.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 29 @ 4:19 PM ET
Miller - Pettersson - Boeser
Pearson - Horvat - Nyquist
Virtanen - Gaudette - Sutter
Roussel - Beagle - Leivo
Motte

Edler - Myers
Hughes - Tanev
Nemeth - Stecher
Rafferty/Schenn

Markstrom
Demko

That’s a solid team

- Nucker101

I can’t tell when you are being sarcastic anymore lol
pmg2008
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.27.2008

Jun 29 @ 4:28 PM ET
Been flogging a Gusev offer sheet for a while now.

Also get Tim Heed out of SJ.

Don't know if we can fit in Connolly.

Too bad we missed Colin Miller; I was thinking something with Clarkson.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 29 @ 4:30 PM ET
Let's just hope the term and salary continue to lower.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 29 @ 4:31 PM ET
Miller - Pettersson - Boeser
Pearson - Horvat - Nyquist
Virtanen - Gaudette - Sutter
Roussel - Beagle - Leivo
Motte

Edler - Myers
Hughes - Tanev
Nemeth - Stecher
Rafferty/Schenn

Markstrom
Demko

That’s a solid team

- Nucker101

Lord Humus was right in the post I saw in the last blog. Myers is not as good as many think. You can put together all the stats you want. It's the left handed version of Hutton. The further up the line up he plays. The worse he is. Stats and points may say otherwise but it's just not pretty.

I get to see watch a lot of Jet games because i'm in the region and they come on before Canuck games.

Myers is a 5/6 D and he needs to be played like one otherwise the results aren't going to be very good.

It is possible that the Jet's system isn't for him. They have a lot of offensive forwards that struggle defensively.

I'm just saying you are going to find yourself a very easy scape goat is he is playing 1st pairing minutes and the season goes south fast.
pmg2008
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.27.2008

Jun 29 @ 4:38 PM ET
Lord Humus was right in the post I saw in the last blog. Myers is not as good as many think. You can put together all the stats you want. It's the left handed version of Hutton. The further up the line up he plays. The worse he is. Stats and points may say otherwise but it's just not pretty.

I get to see watch a lot of Jet games because i'm in the region and they come on before Canuck games.

Myers is a 5/6 D and he needs to be played like one otherwise the results aren't going to be very good.

It is possible that the Jet's system isn't for him. They have a lot of offensive forwards that struggle defensively.

I'm just saying you are going to find yourself a very easy scape goat is he is playing 1st pairing minutes and the season goes south fast.

- manvanfan


What does Myers do for us? Add one win? Myers or Biega? I realize they are different players but...
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Jun 29 @ 4:42 PM ET
Lord Humus was right in the post I saw in the last blog. Myers is not as good as many think. You can put together all the stats you want. It's the left handed version of Hutton. The further up the line up he plays. The worse he is. Stats and points may say otherwise but it's just not pretty.

I get to see watch a lot of Jet games because i'm in the region and they come on before Canuck games.

Myers is a 5/6 D and he needs to be played like one otherwise the results aren't going to be very good.

It is possible that the Jet's system isn't for him. They have a lot of offensive forwards that struggle defensively.

I'm just saying you are going to find yourself a very easy scape goat is he is playing 1st pairing minutes and the season goes south fast.

- manvanfan

probably why the price is dropping.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 29 @ 4:43 PM ET
What does Myers do for us? Add one win? Myers or Biega? I realize they are different players but...
- pmg2008

Myers over Biega. They are different. Myers has quite a bit more offensive hockey sense than Biega does. I would trust Myers more if he had to move up to 2nd pairing for a longer period of time. He probably give you 2 more minutes a game than Biega.

Possibly 4 more wins over Biega.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Jun 29 @ 4:43 PM ET
What does Myers do for us? Add one win? Myers or Biega? I realize they are different players but...
- pmg2008

Size and can shoot the puck, 2 things we don't have.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 29 @ 4:46 PM ET
Lord Humus was right in the post I saw in the last blog. Myers is not as good as many think. You can put together all the stats you want. It's the left handed version of Hutton. The further up the line up he plays. The worse he is. Stats and points may say otherwise but it's just not pretty.

I get to see watch a lot of Jet games because i'm in the region and they come on before Canuck games.

Myers is a 5/6 D and he needs to be played like one otherwise the results aren't going to be very good.

It is possible that the Jet's system isn't for him. They have a lot of offensive forwards that struggle defensively.

I'm just saying you are going to find yourself a very easy scape goat is he is playing 1st pairing minutes and the season goes south fast.

- manvanfan


You can never have enough of those!
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 29 @ 4:54 PM ET
probably why the price is dropping.
- Bettmanhatesus

He is an upgrade on Van's right side. Depending on cost and term is it worth it to the team now and down the road?

If you are going for a cup like Gillis did. You do a little more. Maybe not to that extent that Gillis did but you are going to try to add at sometimes a higher price to make the team better.

Is the team ready for a cup run?

Thank goodness it's free agency and guys get overpaid.
pmg2008
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.27.2008

Jun 29 @ 4:54 PM ET
Myers over Biega. They are different. Myers has quite a bit more offensive hockey sense than Biega does. I would trust Myers more if he had to move up to 2nd pairing for a longer period of time. He probably give you 2 more minutes a game than Biega.

Possibly 4 more wins over Biega.

- manvanfan


I think Biega's stats are pretty good. But yes he has sheltered minutes. I've always enjoyed watching Biega. Is Myers worth $5M a year more than Biega? No.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Jun 29 @ 5:00 PM ET
He plays poorly when asked to be the defence first guy. He will have sheltered zone starts in Van and be asked to contribute offensively. We need a righty. Id rather gardiner, but it’s not terrible at 5x6
- neem55

He had extremely sheltered starts in the peg and was still terrible
pmg2008
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.27.2008

Jun 29 @ 5:03 PM ET
He had extremely sheltered starts in the peg and was still terrible
- kaptaan


He a 30-35 point dman. Morrissey had the same number of points in 21 less games; Byfuglien had the same number of points in 38 less games. He's just not worth it.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 29 @ 5:09 PM ET
I think Biega's stats are pretty good. But yes he has sheltered minutes. I've always enjoyed watching Biega. Is Myers worth $5M a year more than Biega? No.
- pmg2008

Biega when signed his contract had about 90 NHL games experience. Myers has 630 now. Myers can make intelligent plays. Biega puts his head down skates as hard as he can. Finds the puck at his feet and hurls it towards the net.

Are capable defencemen overpaid yes. There seems to be a very odd salary structure for D in the league. Probably because it's hard to find regular capable defenders even if they are the 5/6 guys who can put up around 30 points a season.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 29 @ 5:10 PM ET
He had extremely sheltered starts in the peg and was still terrible
- kaptaan


Hasn't been signed, played a game but...
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 29 @ 5:10 PM ET
He a 30-35 point dman. Morrissey had the same number of points in 21 less games; Byfuglien had the same number of points in 38 less games. He's just not worth it.
- pmg2008

Even those Buff missed 38 games and Myers got to move up the line up and play more time his stats didn't jump as they should have.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Jun 29 @ 5:13 PM ET
Biega when signed his contract had about 90 NHL games experience. Myers has 630 now. Myers can make intelligent plays. Biega puts his head down skates as hard as he can. Finds the puck at his feet and hurls it towards the net.

Are capable defencemen overpaid yes. There seems to be a very odd salary structure for D in the league. Probably because it's hard to find regular capable defenders even if they are the 5/6 guys who can put up around 30 points a season.

- manvanfan

"When Myers played as a fourth or fifth defenseman, he fared okay. However, when the role elevated, he lacked the ability in his game to step up adequately.

Even in the playoffs against St. Louis with reduced minutes, he performed mostly average at best with zero points in six games. Game 5 showed the only improvement and that was followed by a stinker in Game 6."

"
Lost in this season was the fact that Winnipeg sheltered Myers whenever they could. He was deployed in the offensive zone over 56% of the time. That is a high percentage. Overall, the defenseman wound up with 31 points in 80 games while playing just over 20 minutes a night (22 a game over the second half).

It was during that second half where one could see the holes still prevalent in his game. Myers made too many mistakes defensively. Also, blown opportunities offensively which would have been capitalized on by players like Jacob Trouba, Dustin Byfuglien, or Josh Morrissey."

The guy stinks... He was a 5,6 dman in the peg...


https://mynhltraderumors....s-tyler-myers/2019/06/26/
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 29 @ 5:14 PM ET
Hasn't been signed, played a game but...
- VanHockeyGuy

For the sack of the team, I hope they don't sign him. At the same time, if it happens, I hope the contract isn't too horrible and I hope they use him properly.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 29 @ 5:16 PM ET
For the sack of the team, I hope they don't sign him. At the same time, if it happens, I hope the contract isn't too horrible and I hope they use him properly.
- manvanfan


Hopefully a new team/system works for him.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Jun 29 @ 5:17 PM ET
Hasn't been signed, played a game but...
- VanHockeyGuy

Can find analysis and logic that makes sense...

According to you people shouldn't have opinions about things they don't have 1st hand knowledge... I'm assuming you don't vote then... Or comment on much of anything.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 29 @ 5:19 PM ET
"When Myers played as a fourth or fifth defenseman, he fared okay. However, when the role elevated, he lacked the ability in his game to step up adequately.

Even in the playoffs against St. Louis with reduced minutes, he performed mostly average at best with zero points in six games. Game 5 showed the only improvement and that was followed by a stinker in Game 6."

"
Lost in this season was the fact that Winnipeg sheltered Myers whenever they could. He was deployed in the offensive zone over 56% of the time. That is a high percentage. Overall, the defenseman wound up with 31 points in 80 games while playing just over 20 minutes a night (22 a game over the second half).

It was during that second half where one could see the holes still prevalent in his game. Myers made too many mistakes defensively. Also, blown opportunities offensively which would have been capitalized on by players like Jacob Trouba, Dustin Byfuglien, or Josh Morrissey."

The guy stinks... He was a 5,6 dman in the peg...


https://mynhltraderumors....s-tyler-myers/2019/06/26/

- kaptaan


I hadn't seen this but i'm pretty sure this is exactly what I've been saying

I don't know about "stinks" but as I said he's a fine 3rd pairing D and it's free agency and he's still a capable defencemen. Meaning he isn't going to be in and out of your line up and a player you can only player 13 minutes a night.

He's worth somewhere between 4-5 AAV IMO. Anything else it's because it's free agency and he's a RHD.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 29 @ 5:20 PM ET
Hopefully a new team/system works for him.
- VanHockeyGuy

Van has a different structure than WPG does. I don't know if it helps. Or if Baumgartner can help him either.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Jun 29 @ 5:23 PM ET
I hadn't seen this but i'm pretty sure this is exactly what I've been saying

I don't know about "stinks" but as I said he's a fine 3rd pairing D and it's free agency and he's still a capable defencemen. Meaning he isn't going to be in and out of your line up and a player you can only player 13 minutes a night.

He's worth somewhere between 4-5 AAV IMO. Anything else it's because it's free agency and he's a RHD.

- manvanfan

Agree with you on 4-5 mill, but Benning will give him way more and it'll be a joke always trying to make the guy earn his salary.

No way this guy belongs anywhere near the top pairing.
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