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It's pretty safe to say that the next lockout will be because of the owners wanting to get rid of the signing bonuses. |
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I too am looking forward to the Jets "draft and develop" model for their defense, which should only take 3 to 4 years to complete. - BWJumper
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Overpay. How do you always do this? Stop trading Lowry - Rexypoo
How is that an overpay? Would you honestly say that Lowry, Ehlers and a first is worth more than Mark Scheifele? Ehlers not Lowry have ever averaged a ppg or have the ability to carry their own lines. Something that Aho does.
The Jets should have offered him the offer sheet! |
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110 goals in 3-seasons, look at the comparables in that time frame. Itās filled with guys that are making over 10mil. Austin Matthews (11.6mil) is a direct comparable at 111 goals. Yes, more points & plays centre, therefore Laine will make less, but not that much less & Matthews didnāt sacrifice UFA years. - foxbat
Enjoy that contract. He is an average 60 point player and you want to pay him 10? Wow!!!!!
Laine is Jimmy Carson v2.0. |
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Yep Bergeron with that offer sheet did Chevy a solid.
If Chevy gets these guys longer term at under 15 million combined it's a bloody steal.
So far i like the sidelines view and getting Beaulieu for 1 million is fine. I'm not content with the defence as it is now but I am thinking it gets better and that after this initial storm there might be a deal to bring in some help.
Copp, Lowry Vesalainen seems nice to me.
Glad for Tanev, that's what you work for I'm just happy it's not Winnipeg on the other side of that deal.
Myers' deal is well- something only Jim Benning could create and that's the work of a deranged sorcerer. Have fun with that one. - Peter.Tessier
It appears that Bergevin likes Finns as much as Chevy. Both guys worked together and it appear they both have Finnish fetishes!
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Enjoy that contract. He is an average 60 point player and you want to pay him 10? Wow!!!!!
Laine is Jimmy Carson v2.0. - TheUltimateJet
I think you need to read a little closer, at no point did I say that āIā want to pay him 10mil or that āIā think heās worth that. In fact, anything over 9mil in my personal opinion is an over-payment. What Iām doing here is providing rational as to what may happen & as fans we shouldnāt be surprised if it does. Wow! |
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I think you need to read a little closer, at no point did I say that āIā want to pay him 10mil or that āIā think heās worth that. In fact, anything over 9mil in my personal opinion is an over-payment. What Iām doing here is providing rational as to what may happen & as fans we shouldnāt be surprised if it does. Wow! - foxbat
If it does happen, Chevelsummeroff needs to resign immediately! |
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Location: Winnipeg, MB Joined: 02.11.2015
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Stupid Money -
- Bobrovsky 7 yrs @ 10 MM per . As we've seen with Price , goalies can go hot and cold.
-Panarin . @ approx 11.75 for 7 years. Seriously stupid. In my estimate he's not worth a dime over $8 MM
Reasonable value
- Myers and Stralman are top four Dmen and were gotten for $6 MM per and $5.5 MM. They can play all aspects of the game well.
Good value :
Timo Meier 4 yrs @ 6 MM per is good value for a workhorse guy who shows up every night, can score , great vision, and play all aspects of the game well.
Possibly Zuccarello also at $6 MM per. |
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Location: Winnipeg, MB Joined: 02.11.2015
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Also, IMHO I think Laine get's bridged at around $7 MM max for 2-3 years and Connor gets signed long term at a similar figure. Copp might sign for around the number that Lowry signed for +/- a few hundred thousand.
I also believe Chevy will want to have some cap to spare for the trade deadline .
Now with Par Linholm also gone we might have to put up with Perreault for one more year. I think it's pretty obvious though that Chevy would have tried to unload him before July 1st and had no takers. Unfortunate. |
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Location: Winnipeg, MB Joined: 02.11.2015
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I got my wishes of losing Enstrom, Postma and Dano....so why not grant Rexy a few wishes. - bennythehat
I have my wishes as well but these cases were more about being a poor judge of talent. No team bit on Enstrom , and Postma and Dano were total busts. Tanev got a huge contract upgrade and Myers also got a pay upgrade. Ultimately, results speak for themselves.
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Yep Bergeron with that offer sheet did Chevy a solid.
If Chevy gets these guys longer term at under 15 million combined it's a bloody steal.
So far i like the sidelines view and getting Beaulieu for 1 million is fine. I'm not content with the defence as it is now but I am thinking it gets better and that after this initial storm there might be a deal to bring in some help.
Copp, Lowry Vesalainen seems nice to me.
Glad for Tanev, that's what you work for I'm just happy it's not Winnipeg on the other side of that deal.
Myers' deal is well- something only Jim Benning could create and that's the work of a deranged sorcerer. Have fun with that one. - Peter.Tessier
He looks the part. |
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I have my wishes as well but these cases were more about being a poor judge of talent. No team bit on Enstrom , and Postma and Dano were total busts. Tanev got a huge contract upgrade and Myers also got a pay upgrade. Ultimately, results speak for themselves. - jetsnation
Ladd, alzner, lucic,......should I go on? Results speak of idiot GMās more often than what a player is actually worth. |
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Enjoy that contract. He is an average 60 point player and you want to pay him 10? Wow!!!!!
Laine is Jimmy Carson v2.0. - TheUltimateJet
Carson is an interesting comparison. Iām guessing you think heās going to bust and fizzle out like Jimmy did? |
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Carson is an interesting comparison. Iām guessing you think heās going to bust and fizzle out like Jimmy did? - Byfuglien Ate Me
I truly believe this! I am hoping I am wrong, but there is nothing in Laine's games that suggests that he is ready to take a massive step forward.
He is unable to elevate line mates, possession numbers are on the decline. His forcheck and backcheck need improving. He does not generate his own offence and needs players to get him the puck. His skating needs improvement. Outside of having a nice shot, what else does he realistically bring to the team. He has also been unable to create any chemistry with anyone.
Furthermore the only Jet that is under threat of an offer sheet is Connor. No one will offer sheet Laine. This proves that other GM's don't value him very highly either. |
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I have my wishes as well but these cases were more about being a poor judge of talent. No team bit on Enstrom , and Postma and Dano were total busts. Tanev got a huge contract upgrade and Myers also got a pay upgrade. Ultimately, results speak for themselves. - jetsnation
Hey Jetsnation, I am sad losing Myers. I now need a new Jets jersey. Who would suggest I put on the next one? |
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I truly believe this! I am hoping I am wrong, but there is nothing in Laine's games that suggests that he is ready to take a massive step forward.
He is unable to elevate line mates, possession numbers are on the decline. His forcheck and backcheck need improving. He does not generate his own offence and needs players to get him the puck. His skating needs improvement. Outside of having a nice shot, what else does he realistically bring to the team. He has also been unable to create any chemistry with anyone. - TheUltimateJet
I canāt argue your points. Heās talented. Big body but doesnāt really use it so....
He has value because he scores goals. Chevy needs to capitalize on that value. |
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I canāt argue your points. Heās talented. Big body but doesnāt really use it so....
He has value because he scores goals. Chevy needs to capitalize on that value. - Byfuglien Ate Me
Also, how come no other GM is threatening to offer sheet Laine. Only Connor seems to be under that threat. Other GM's also recognize his true value. |
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Also, how come no other GM is threatening to offer sheet Laine. Only Connor seems to be under that threat. Other GM's also recognize his true value. - TheUltimateJet
Predictability I would guess. As a Leaf fan, if I was offered Connor or Laine on the same term but there is a difference in dollars 750k or more, I would pick Connor. I think he can get to 40 and 750k buys you a depth Dbag which everyone needs in todayās NHL. |
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Also, how come no other GM is threatening to offer sheet Laine. Only Connor seems to be under that threat. Other GM's also recognize his true value. - TheUltimateJet
Actually, itās the exact opposite of what your thinking. Laineās offer sheet would bring him into the next tier (4 first rounders) because everyone understands that heās worth more because goals are more important than anything else & he does it better than 99% of the players in the NHL, whereas Connorās compensation would be way less (1,2&3). |
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Also, how come no other GM is threatening to offer sheet Laine. Only Connor seems to be under that threat. Other GM's also recognize his true value. - TheUltimateJet
So Marner, Tkachuk, raantanen, point, provorov, werenski and mcavoy all have no value to? Since you know, no threats of offer sheets yet |
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So Marner, Tkachuk, raantanen, point, provorov, werenski and mcavoy all have no value to? Since you know, no threats of offer sheets yet - Ross77
Connor, Marmer and Aho have all been in media reports as being potential players to offer sheet, mostly due to teams cap situations. How come Laine being on the same team as Connor not been Ina my reports? |
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Actually, itās the exact opposite of what your thinking. Laineās offer sheet would bring him into the next tier (4 first rounders) because everyone understands that heās worth more because goals are more important than anything else & he does it better than 99% of the players in the NHL, whereas Connorās compensation would be way less (1,2&3). - foxbat
I would take the four firsts and laugh at the team that gave him that contract and move on. |
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I would take the four firsts and laugh at the team that gave him that contract and move on. - TheUltimateJet
Furthermore, Laine finished behind Scheifle and Connor in goals last season. It boggles my mind that people on this board look at last season as being an aberration when in reality it's exactly what Laine is. |
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Furthermore, Laine finished behind Scheifle and Connor in goals last season. It boggles my mind that people on this board look at last season as being an aberration when in reality it's exactly what Laine is. - TheUltimateJet
Now spin it & compare him to Bambiās first few years instead of with a guy (Bambi) who is supposedly in his prime. You clearly just donāt like him & thatās fine, but youāre cherry picking which stats fit your narrative. Give him first line minutes & an actual play making centre instead of a dump & chase guy & he produces even more. Look at the big picture because thatās what his agent & most GMās will do. |
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Now spin it & compare him to Bambiās first few years instead of with a guy (Bambi) who is supposedly in his prime. You clearly just donāt like him & thatās fine, but youāre cherry picking which stats fit your narrative. Give him first line minutes & an actual play making centre instead of a dump & chase guy & he produces even more. Look at the big picture because thatās what his agent & most GMās will do. - foxbat
You just agreed with me that he needs a playmaker and is unable to generate his own offence.
Let's do a critical thinking exercise.
Laine is a franchise player because....... Please fill that in. I am genuinely interested to hear this nonsense. |
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