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TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jul 2 @ 9:23 AM ET
Well calculated offer sheet for sure. Both teams will be competing for a wild card spot IMO and from the Habs perspective why not (frank) the team you are competing with if you can.
- winsix


I said it to some of my Habs fan friends already, but if Canes let Aho walk for the three picks which will be mid-round at the very best with Aho in the picture for the Habs, they are a complete joke.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 2 @ 9:24 AM ET
I don't think a trade will happen if they match.

KK is not going anywhere.

For what it's worth, even if it fails, I do appreciate the balls of Bergevin of doing it.

And there are others RFA's if needed. OFFER SHEET THEM ALL BERGY!

- Scabeh

But is it ballsy?
Its kinda half assed.
Of he really wanted aho, would you not offer more, make it harder on the canes and be willing to entice them not to match.
The canes gm laughed at bergy. Said he did his work for him and that the offer was lower than expected.
The 21m owed over the next 12 months will be hard for the canes to absorb, but i dont think irs enough tp make them walk away
Imo
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jul 2 @ 9:24 AM ET
Leafs just need to be able to trade away a few of their fans..
- bixll

go ahead and buy yourself an Ottawa sweater
LeafsFan23
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: He's big, he's bald, he's Alex Auld, ON
Joined: 07.23.2009

Jul 2 @ 9:25 AM ET
Spezza was playing 4th line wing on the Stars. He's not an NHL centreman
- AdamFrench


Wasnt his face off percentage 2nd best last season?.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jul 2 @ 9:25 AM ET
But is it ballsy?
Its kinda half assed.
Of he really wanted aho, would you not offer more, make it harder on the canes and be willing to entice them not to match.
The canes gm laughed at bergy. Said he did his work for him and that the offer was lower than expected.
The 21m owed over the next 12 months will be hard for the canes to absorb, but i dont think irs enough tp make them walk away
Imo

- Fakepartofme


Apparently the 21 million is what they bring in through the gate throughout a season
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 2 @ 9:25 AM ET
Leafs need to trade Willie.
- MaximusAurelius

Not this year.
Maybe next off season, depending on how it plays out.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 2 @ 9:26 AM ET
lmfaooooooo 6’5 and i forgot to mention underspeed
- Skalapy


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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 2 @ 9:26 AM ET
But is it ballsy?
Its kinda half assed.
Of he really wanted aho, would you not offer more, make it harder on the canes and be willing to entice them not to match.
The canes gm laughed at bergy. Said he did his work for him and that the offer was lower than expected.
The 21m owed over the next 12 months will be hard for the canes to absorb, but i dont think irs enough tp make them walk away
Imo

- Fakepartofme


According to Bergevin, adding more money wouldn't have made a difference in the Canes possibility to match.

Only the amount of money in the first year (which they maxed out) was a factor.

They must have had some information that it has a chance to work. Otherwise they wouldn't have bothered.
jimi james
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere Between, NB
Joined: 07.17.2010

Jul 2 @ 9:26 AM ET
go ahead and buy yourself an Ottawa sweater
- MaximusAurelius

go ahead and (frank) your hat
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 2 @ 9:27 AM ET
Panarin could be bad.
4 years into it, it wont look good.

- Fakepartofme



Panarin is a beast, overpaid - maybe, but Rangers add a point a game player to a core of young talented players. Adding Trouba and Panarin without taking much away are solid moves.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 2 @ 9:27 AM ET
Apparently the 21 million is what they bring in through the gate throughout a season
- TheMussel


Damn.

"So.... your whole season revenue vs Sebastian Aho?"
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 2 @ 9:28 AM ET
Never gets old.
- Steven_Seagull


It is so uncomfortable.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 2 @ 9:29 AM ET
Apparently the 21 million is what they bring in through the gate throughout a season
- TheMussel


Its actually more, 21 million is what they brought in last season including two rounds of playoffs. Without Aho, hard to see them make the playoffs. Habs couldn't have (frank)ed them more.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jul 2 @ 9:29 AM ET
According to Bergevin, adding more money wouldn't have made a difference in the Canes possibility to match.

Only the amount of money in the first year (which they maxed out) was a factor.

They must have had some information that it has a chance to work. Otherwise they wouldn't have bothered.

- Scabeh


Canes are a broke franchise.
I really hope Montreal gets Aho - because it will make other GMs look at offersheets as an option going forward.
Time for the teams that bring revenue to take advantage to some of these non-marke teams. (I thought the comment by Canes GM was stupid - Mtl / Toronto / some other teams basically keeping their heads up in this league)
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 2 @ 9:31 AM ET
Leafs need to trade Willie.
- MaximusAurelius


What a wonderfully intelligent and nuanced take.


Tell me more...
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jul 2 @ 9:32 AM ET
Panarin could be bad.
4 years into it, it wont look good.

- Fakepartofme

I disagree...he's 27 and plays a style of game that ages well.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 2 @ 9:35 AM ET
Canes are a broke franchise.
I really hope Montreal gets Aho - because it will make other GMs look at offersheets as an option going forward.
Time for the teams that bring revenue to take advantage to some of these non-marke teams. (I thought the comment by Canes GM was stupid - Mtl / Toronto / some other teams basically keeping their heads up in this league)

- MaximusAurelius


Canes are Owned by Tom Dundon - he's not broke, best owner franchise has ever had for sure.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jul 2 @ 9:37 AM ET
I know you've all been waiting for my opinion on the trade (let me have this one Bixll), so here it is:

I like this trade for the Leafs.

In Barrie, they get a good offensive defenseman that can easily replace Gardiner. Yes he's signed only for a year but depending on the results, that could not matter. And the Leafs could always resign him if needed.

Losing Kadri hurts, he's an effective player (I personally hate him) and gave you guys alot of depth at centre. At the same time, his repeated idiotic actions ended up hurting the team way more and he will not be missed in the playoffs (can anyone do worse than not playing?).

Kerfoot being included in the trade is crazy. He's a good young player that could easily have a career year playing with some talented players next year.

On the Avs side, they lose Barrie but he'll be replaced by Makar and they really needed that 2nd line centre. Kadri will look good over there but don't look back fellas.

Overall a solid trade by Dubas.

Cheers! Aho!

- Scabeh



Nope, I won't bother you or Adam again. No worries.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 2 @ 9:40 AM ET
I disagree...he's 27 and plays a style of game that ages well.

- RickJames77


Agree with you, he's also not a softie, black belt. Rangers overpaid but Panarin turned down more money from the Islanders. Then Lou had to swallow hard and go back to sign Lee. (frank) the Islanders.
gamerdoc
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.06.2019

Jul 2 @ 9:42 AM ET
Aho gets an offer sheet for what, 8.45?

Who would you rather have? Aho at 8.5 vs Marner at 11? With the cap space in mind, because otherwise of course you would rather have Marner if cap isn’t an issue.

I would have to take Aho here. Imagine what Dubas can do with the extra $2.5 M! I mean Aho doesn’t get to play with JT and his numbers are very respectable?

Marner camp needs to be realistic here. Sure MM might be better but is he 2.5M per year better? Come on.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 2 @ 9:45 AM ET
Nope, I won't bother you or Adam again. No worries.
- bixll


How's the baby doing? Still good?
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jul 2 @ 9:58 AM ET
How's the baby doing? Still good?
- Scabeh



Just keep the chatter to hockey, none of this father poop.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 2 @ 10:13 AM ET
Just keep the chatter to hockey, none of this father poop.
- bixll


And here I thought we were bonding.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jul 2 @ 10:18 AM ET
And here I thought we were bonding.
- Scabeh

We're covalent bud
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jul 2 @ 10:18 AM ET
I don't think a trade will happen if they match.

KK is not going anywhere.

For what it's worth, even if it fails, I do appreciate the balls of Bergevin of doing it.

And there are others RFA's if needed. OFFER SHEET THEM ALL BERGY!

- Scabeh


I think carolina matches but they wait till the last hour so mtl can’t offer sheet any one else. Kind of like a screw you for trying to take our player.
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