I disagree. But oh well.
- AdamFrench

Tavares and Matthews kinda makes them loaded even if their third line center isn’t as good anymore.

What are lines looking like?

Hyman-Tavares-Marner
Kapanen-Matthews-Nylander
Mikheyev-Spezza-Johnsson
Moore-Agostino-Marchment

Rielly-Ceci
Muzzin-Barrie
Dermott-?????

Tavares and Matthews kinda makes them loaded even if their third line center isn’t as good anymore.
- ClarksonDavid

Yes. Hopefully Kerfoot (or somebody) can take that 3rd line and run with it. I'm worried though and have been for a long time that they don't have a natural centre that kills penalties.

Yes. Hopefully Kerfoot (or somebody) can take that 3rd line and run with it. I'm worried though and have been for a long time that they don't have a natural centre that kills penalties.
- AdamFrench

I’m sure Matthews or Tavares could handle that responsibility.

What are lines looking like?

Hyman-Tavares-Marner
Kapanen-Matthews-Nylander
Mikheyev-Kerfoot-Johnsson
Moore-Spezza-Marchment

Rielly-Ceci
Muzzin-Barrie
Dermott-?????
- iTOLDu

Yes. Hopefully Kerfoot (or somebody) can take that 3rd line and run with it. I'm worried though and have been for a long time that they don't have a natural centre that kills penalties.
- AdamFrench

Yeah that’s fair. I think 5 on 5 Kerfoot Kapanen could make a nice third line

I disagree. But oh well.
- AdamFrench

i'm picking up what you're putting down.

joe thorton, 3 years x $6M!

I disagree. But oh well.
- AdamFrench

I guess the guy means that having 2 of the top 10 centres in the league counts as "loaded" to him? I can see it that way.

Tavares and Matthews kinda makes them loaded even if their third line center isn’t as good anymore.
- ClarksonDavid

I keep telling myself to finish reading all the posts to make sure I don't say the same thing someone else has already said but I never listen to me.

What about Point? There's a real strong argument to be made that he should get more than all of them. Depends on how those fancy stats have him or Kucherov driving that line, but it's not like Marner plays with a chump in Tavares. Point scored over 40 this year, I believe, no?
- RickJames77

In terms of actual money, it should have gone:

Rantanen
Aho
Point
Marner
Tkachuk

What about Point? There's a real strong argument to be made that he should get more than all of them. Depends on how those fancy stats have him or Kucherov driving that line, but it's not like Marner plays with a chump in Tavares. Point scored over 40 this year, I believe, no?
- RickJames77

i'd argue he's a year older and you pay a little less based on him being closer to his full potential.

plus tampa always pays less.

Tavares and Matthews kinda makes them loaded even if their third line center isn’t as good anymore.
- ClarksonDavid

Kadri was a luxury. He's a very good #2 (literally and figuratively). His numbers were dropping bc Tavares and Matthews were taking those quality offensive minutes. Tavares also was getting big defensive assignments. I love Kadri and I think he'll be great behind MacKinnon but it was a great "asset management" trade by Dubas.

I think the 3rd line looks like Johnsson-Kerfoot-Spezza (maybe).

I disagree. But oh well.
- AdamFrench

Benning was the GM making the comments..

A lot of speculation around his real target being Point and that he's using this as a "I'm coming for you, so trade with me" kind of move. Not sure I believe it.
- AdamFrench

I also saw some people speculating that this is just Bergevin posturing - he has not expectation of actually getting Aho - just wants the fans to think he's working hard to improve the team.

I also saw some people speculating that this is just Bergevin posturing - he has not expectation of actually getting Aho - just wants the fans to think he's working hard to improve the team.
- Atomic Wedgie

eff marner

he and his daddy and mommy can go pound sand up their asses

good player but he’s no douggie fresh he shrunk like a dead Richard in winter under a sheet of snow

dubass needs to either trade him and greedy willi for some grown men before this becomes another pre/in season soap opera or fold and get fired 2 years from now for being week and (frank)ing the team for another decade
- Skalapy

Sara Civ
‏Verified account @SaraCivian

The Hurricanes are matching the offer sheet and an announcement is coming within the hour.

Gord Miller
‏Verified account @GMillerTSN
2h2 hours ago

An NHL GM on Toronto’s moves: “They had to dip into their forward depth to improve their D, but this is a home run. They’re still loaded at centre and their blue line is way better. Now they’ve got cap space to sign their RFAs and they’re a legit contender with this defence.”


- GreatGigInTheSky

what defense? reilly muzzin barrie ceci dermott and harpur holl gravell or marincin? outside of reilly which one of these guys is playing defense? freddy andersen thats who.

Yes. Hopefully Kerfoot (or somebody) can take that 3rd line and run with it. I'm worried though and have been for a long time that they don't have a natural centre that kills penalties.
- AdamFrench

Don't know much about Shore but maybe he slides onto the 4th line wing but plays centre on the PK?

They've got about 14 million to sign Marner, Kerfoot and maybe grab a better back up tender. They could/should maybe throw some $$ at a better 4th line centre too.

I guess the guy means that having 2 of the top 10 centres in the league counts as "loaded" to him? I can see it that way.
- GreatGigInTheSky

'member when we had Glimour, Sundin, Muller?

Good times.

What about Point? There's a real strong argument to be made that he should get more than all of them. Depends on how those fancy stats have him or Kucherov driving that line, but it's not like Marner plays with a chump in Tavares. Point scored over 40 this year, I believe, no?
- RickJames77

I see point as being right with Marner and Rantanen.

Tkachuk around the same level as Aho.

what defense? reilly muzzin barrie ceci dermott and harpur holl gravell or marincin? outside of reilly which one of these guys is playing defense? freddy andersen thats who.
- Bob_Zuruncle

You're right. You know better than an NHL GM.

what defense? reilly muzzin barrie ceci dermott and harpur holl gravell or marincin? outside of reilly which one of these guys is playing defense? freddy andersen thats who.
- Bob_Zuruncle

what defense did we have last year?

In terms of actual money, it should have gone:

Rantanen
Aho
Point
Marner
Tkachuk
- BINGO!

There's a nice debate in there. If you listen to the Leaf trolls Marner should be at the top of the payday list. I think there's a good argument for all 4 of those top 4 guys. Points are sexy so I think MM and Rantanen get top slot.

Sara Civ
‏Verified account @SaraCivian

The Hurricanes are matching the offer sheet and an announcement is coming within the hour.
- GreatGigInTheSky

I wonder who mtl will offer sheet now.