Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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In terms of actual money, it should have gone:
Rantanen
Aho
Point
Marner
Tkachuk - BINGO!
Marner
Point
Rantanen
Aho
Tkachuk
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ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK Joined: 03.15.2014
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Kadri was a luxury. He's a very good #2 (literally and figuratively). His numbers were dropping bc Tavares and Matthews were taking those quality offensive minutes. Tavares also was getting big defensive assignments. I love Kadri and I think he'll be great behind MacKinnon but it was a great "asset management" trade by Dubas.
I think the 3rd line looks like Johnsson-Kerfoot-Spezza (maybe). - The Law
Why is everyone moving Kapanen to the left side? I still see him being the 3rd line right winger. |
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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I wonder who mtl will offer sheet now. - bryant
Kerfoot. |
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BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes |
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Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK Joined: 09.21.2009
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There's a nice debate in there. If you listen to the Leaf trolls Marner should be at the top of the payday list. I think there's a good argument for all 4 of those top 4 guys. Points are sexy so I think MM and Rantanen get top slot. - The Law
I go higher with Aho because he doesn't have anywhere close to the supporting cast of the others, and he's a C.
But yeah.
I guess it comes down to how much more you value Marner's production vs the two way play of some of the others. |
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ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK Joined: 03.15.2014
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Marner
Point
Rantanen
Aho
Tkachuk - Aetherial
Why should Marner be the highest paid? |
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RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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Marner
Point
Rantanen
Aho
Tkachuk - Aetherial
What has Marner done to be highest paid? |
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What has Marner done to be highest paid? - RogerRoeper
94points |
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The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 01.29.2008
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what defense did we have last year? - Tumbleweed
Rielly-Hainsey
Gardiner-Zaitsev
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Rielly-Barrie
Muzzin-Ceci
Even if Ceci is a poopshow that's a massive improvement.
Big year for Dermott to prove he can work his way into top 4 minutes. |
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RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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Kadri was a luxury. He's a very good #2 (literally and figuratively). His numbers were dropping bc Tavares and Matthews were taking those quality offensive minutes. Tavares also was getting big defensive assignments. I love Kadri and I think he'll be great behind MacKinnon but it was a great "asset management" trade by Dubas.
I think the 3rd line looks like Johnsson-Kerfoot-Spezza (maybe). - The Law
Kadri will be 29 soon. I think now was the time to strike and move him. There were some subtle signs he was dropping a bit last year.(And I don't mean stats, he looked a little slower). |
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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Why should Marner be the highest paid? - ClarksonDavid
Probably due to
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Mitchell Marner
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Brayden Point
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Mikko Rantanen
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Sebastian Aho
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Matthew Tkachuk
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Kyle Connor
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Patrik Laine |
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Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Whenever, wherever, ON Joined: 06.27.2013
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'member when we had Glimour, Sundin, Muller?
Good times. - Atomic Wedgie
I never could like Muller. I tried, but I just . . .he wasn't a guy I liked. |
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RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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94points - MaximusAurelius
Rantanen had 85 last year and 92 this year, and he missed 7 games. Better PPG. |
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Bob_Zuruncle
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Location: CEO Mark Porter, NJ Joined: 04.21.2006
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You're right. You know better than an NHL GM. - GreatGigInTheSky
especially when the gm is a kid who thinks his stupid corsi stats are gonna lead him to ultimate victory. |
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The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 01.29.2008
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Why is everyone moving Kapanen to the left side? I still see him being the 3rd line right winger. - ClarksonDavid
Truth be told Babcock doesn't defer to me BUT for me ...it's time to go balls in.
Kap-Mat-Nyl and Hym-Tav-Mar should get 40-45 minutes per night (at least when poop gets real). With Tavares getting the tougher assignments the Matthews line should be feasting all year.
Also, I think Spezza gets 3rd line duties and plays on the right. That being said flip Johnsson and Kapanen if the fit is better. |
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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Rielly-Hainsey
Gardiner-Zaitsev
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Rielly-Barrie
Muzzin-Ceci
Even if Ceci is a poopshow that's a massive improvement.
Big year for Dermott to prove he can work his way into top 4 minutes. - The Law
And we now have Kevin Gravel!!!! |
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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So much butt-hurt by Sens fans.
Yummy, yummy, yummy. |
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Bob_Zuruncle
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Location: CEO Mark Porter, NJ Joined: 04.21.2006
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what defense did we have last year? - Tumbleweed
swapped gardiner for gardiner 2.0 in barrie and added ottawa's favorite defenseman cody ceci, so much improvement......lost the only sandpaper the lineup had in kadri and brown. |
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Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Whenever, wherever, ON Joined: 06.27.2013
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Probably due to
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Mitchell Marner
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Brayden Point
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Mikko Rantanen
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Sebastian Aho
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Matthew Tkachuk
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Kyle Connor
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Patrik Laine - AdamFrench
Adjusted Points? You could just as easily use Goals Created or Point Shares as well. |
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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: avid reader of the daily douche news Joined: 03.14.2014
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Don't know much about Shore but maybe he slides onto the 4th line wing but plays centre on the PK?
They've got about 14 million to sign Marner, Kerfoot and maybe grab a better back up tender. They could/should maybe throw some $$ at a better 4th line centre too. - The Law
(frank) it. squeeze marner for 6.5 x2.
bring back gards @ 4.5M for 1 year and lets (frank)ing go balls out for it this year.
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The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 01.29.2008
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Kadri will be 29 soon. I think now was the time to strike and move him. There were some subtle signs he was dropping a bit last year.(And I don't mean stats, he looked a little slower). - RogerRoeper
If nothing else Kerfoot is a 4 yr Harvard grad. I love Kadri but superior brains were not his forte.
I haven't seen a minute of Kerfoot play (nor Spezza in the past 5 years) but my Avs buddy says he's a tenacious small skilled guy with tonnes of hockey smarts. Reads like a good (but small) 3rd line centre. I like the fit and Babcock has had some success with those types. |
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Rantanen had 85 last year and 92 this year, and he missed 7 games. Better PPG. - RogerRoeper
84 and 87.
now consider PP points and ATOI (your eternal point!) - you see how Marner is better. |
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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: avid reader of the daily douche news Joined: 03.14.2014
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Kadri will be 29 soon. I think now was the time to strike and move him. There were some subtle signs he was dropping a bit last year.(And I don't mean stats, he looked a little slower). - RogerRoeper
speed has never been his thing. that's actually a good point. |
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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I go higher with Aho because he doesn't have anywhere close to the supporting cast of the others, and he's a C.
But yeah.
I guess it comes down to how much more you value Marner's production vs the two way play of some of the others. - BINGO!
Question for ya, Bingsie:
What were you expecting the 'canes' offer to Aho was going to be?
Was it going to be higher than $8.5 million AAV? Lower? |
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The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 01.29.2008
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especially when the gm is a kid who thinks his stupid corsi stats are gonna lead him to ultimate victory. - Bob_Zuruncle
Ya! Wave that cane ol' Uncle Bob. |
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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: avid reader of the daily douche news Joined: 03.14.2014
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Rielly-Hainsey
Gardiner-Zaitsev
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Rielly-Barrie
Muzzin-Ceci
Even if Ceci is a poopshow that's a massive improvement.
Big year for Dermott to prove he can work his way into top 4 minutes. - The Law
i'm guessing dermott plays on the right. babs probably mixes it until he finds the combo that works best. |
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